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This article has become a WP:COATRACK bloat-fest, not a WP:SUMMARY. Condensing is needed. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:06, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agree. See previous talk section for some suggestions to start with. Any thoughts? BobFromBrockley (talk) 21:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Iskandar323 I think you accidentally reverted some of my trimming and tagging when you rightly did your trim just now. I've restored - hope I've not made a mistake. BobFromBrockley (talk) 21:23, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yeah, very sorry, not sure what happened there at all Iskandar323 (talk) 06:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Actually, I've slightly lost track of what's going on on this page, but I know there's still more opinion to expunge - there's just a complex web of sfns linking back to many of the opinion pieces - it's a bugger hunting down many of the loose ends. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:35, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The sfns refs do make it harder to untangle. BobFromBrockley (talk) 07:35, 20 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can we content-fork "Rebuttals"? It's the only section not placed on the strict timeline of the rest of the article. Orchastrattor (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It is/would be better to integrate any rebuttals alongside the claims that are being rebutted. Splitting off all counterclaims would just create two unbalanced pages. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:05, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Re Iskandar suggestion of integrating rebuttals alongside claims: I might support that to some extent if it was possible, but the problem here would be making sure we were only including rebuttals with due weight and not filling the main part of the body with opinion pieces, especially from non-noteworthy commentators. At the moment, we have a vast amount of opinion (and it is very unrepresentative of the opinion published in the period in reliable sources, as almost all of the opinion pieces are the rebuttals, which were probably a minority of what was published). BobFromBrockley (talk) 08:31, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maybe we can fork it between Corbyn and everyone else then, reorg the page to go by different types of accusations and controversy instead of the timeline and then just have a short "Jeremy Corbyn" section with a {main} link to Jeremy Corbyn and antisemitism. Orchastrattor (talk) 19:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would be more in favour of starting by trimming the opinion heavily (there seems to b e consensus on doing that, but perhaps not on which part of the opinion to expunge) and then seeing where we are. BobFromBrockley (talk) 08:33, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

While providing some useful counters to many of the evidence-free claims of anti-semitism within the Labour Party, this section might be improved (style-wise) with a little slimming down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.69.169.26 (talk) 20:14, 3 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Trimming proposed

As there seems to be consensus for trimming, I am going to boldly trim some opinion content now.

I'd also suggest that the subsection on the IHRA has too much opinion content and should be trimmed back to the facts. Agreed? BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As no objections, have done this now. BobFromBrockley (talk) 16:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I will soon start to trim the material in the responses that is tagged with undue weight. Please speak out here if you disagree. BobFromBrockley (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The lead section as-written is not an accurate summary of the contents of this article. The article covers allegations of antisemitism since the 20th Century and yet the introduction describes allegations since 2015 only. It would be advisable to rewrite or WP:SPLIT the article into one on the broader history of antisemitism in the Labour Party and one on antisemitism since Jeremy Corbyn's election as leader. EditorOnOccasion (talk) 00:28, 20 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've added a more historical opening sentence and deleted a paragraph of unnecessary recent detail. Not opposed to a split, but prefer the trimming of yesterday's news (as Iskandar323 put it above), as the post-2015 is unnecessarily detailed and choked with undue opinions. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is currently a long third paragraph of this section which seems to me undue past the first two sentences, as it isn't actually about the subject of this article. Removing it would be one step towards word length reduction. Any objections? BobFromBrockley (talk) 08:27, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As no reply will do this now. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:21, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I noticed that the sentence "The fundamental principle that IHRA is so flawed it should be abandoned, not tinkered with." doesn't make sense so I took a look at the two references cited. Neither reference contains precisely this text and the same is true for the previous sentence, namely "Jewish leaders claim exclusive rights to determine what is antisemitism, potentially putting Jewish sentiment above the law of the land". Regarding the first sentence I have mentioned, source " Lerman 2018b" contains: "Now is an opportunity to establish the fundamental principle that IHRA is so flawed it should be abandoned, not tinkered with." That sentence makes sense, unlike the one in the Wikipedia article. Misha Wolf (talk) 15:02, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Go ahead and change the ref. I'm not sure this is due in that section tbh. BobFromBrockley (talk) 15:10, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Have trimmed now. See above talk section. BobFromBrockley (talk) 16:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]