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Please stop with the POV vandalism. Why is it not POV vandalism to right articles about Arab cities Pro-Arab but not not to make articles about Jewish cities Pro-Jewish? 68.80.133.163 02:40, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps we could try not to be "pro" anyone? Grace Note 04:02, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm not very happy with the identification of Bethel section, but I'm going to cite both sources. One is quite old and may not reflect modern scholarship - but equally it may, and it's clearly the basis for our article on Bethel itself. The other is a far-right Israeli website which may well reflect a political bias. WP policy on reliable sources indicates that extremist organisations should only be taken as a reliable source for information regarding themselves, and gives Hamas as an example of such an organisation. Clearly, Hamas isn't by any means as extremist, in the context of Palestinian politics, as this website appears to be in the context of Israel politics. Nevertheless, I think it might as well be included. Palmiro | Talk 18:20, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
While you're at it, can you not remove the identification of the West Bank with "Judea/Samaria", because after all it's what they call it, and can you try to accept that "took control of" is factual, even if it is what "they say". These are such minor points but they are the likely focus of yet another edit war. By all means, moderate the text so that it describes who calls the area what. Grace Note 05:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
The page layout is confusing. For some reason all the edits are located at the bottom of the page. I would love to fix it, but I don't know how and would really appreciate if someone else did. Leppi 10:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I think those words are extraneous when describing the ancient location of bethel. Anyone can open up the link for themselves and see that it is a pro-settlement website. The fact that it is a pro-settlement website does not seem to a piece of information that is relevant to the article, but something that should be put only in the footnote. Leppi 07:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
How can there be no mention of Rabbi Shlomo Aviner???Eliezerh 21:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
You are write, not only that - there was a factual mistake. The editor had written that Rabbi Zalman Baruch Melamed is the "chief rabbi of the settlement. In fact - according to the Chief Rabbinate of Israel - Rabbi Aviner is the rabbi of Bet-El. Rabbi Melamed was never the rabbi fo Bet-el though at one time, he did appoint himself to the rabbi of Bet El B, the settlement that he and his students founded after leaving Bet El. He is also of course the Rosh Yeshiva of the Bet El Yeshiva, and a founder of its many institutions. Stating the fact that he is not the rabbi of Bet-el does not take away from his other achievements. I hope that whoever edits this page, will not write false statements. Therefore I changed the sentence about Rabbi of Bet el to conform with the truth--213.151.32.56 08:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Shuki, I assume that you did not understand my comment. The editor refers to the person who edited the paragraph, not THE editor. I would assume that he is innocent, if not for the face that there are people who are constantly trying to erase Rabbi Aviner, physically and virtually. In any case the FACTS are that Rabbi Aviner is the only official rabbi of Bet El, although Rabbi Melameds followers have attached this title to his name, there is no legal basis for it at all. --213.151.32.55 16:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Shuki - that is true, since in hebrew we use the term "the rabbi of" when referring to a rabbi of a small town. The editors of Israel National News however like to refer to their rabbi (Rabbi Melamed) as the chief rabbi of Bet-el. When we started this discussion the original text was that Rabbi M. is the chief rabbi of Beit-el which not only is wrong, it completely erases the legally elected rabbi who happens to be Rabbi Aviner. Even if you want to leave both names it would probably be closer to the truth to erase the term chief rabbis and leave it at the rabbis of Beit el are ...--213.151.32.55 21:35, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
This settlement is not part of Israel, so in the interests of being factually correct I've removed that reference. I've also changed the words 'civilians' to 'Israeli settlers' because that best reflects who arrived there and doesn't give the impression that no-one lived in that area before Israeli settlers arrived. --Whirlygirly —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whirlygirly (talk • contribs) 22:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
My family owned land in that area during the 19th century but I noticed that the "peace now" report is discriminating between Jewish ownership of land and Muslim ownership of land. This report has to be removed from the reference / quote list, but because I didn't want to vandlise the page I just added a note on that with a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.223.46 (talk) 23:43, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
The edit made by Whirlygirly is bias, based on her/his own ideological stands, and unsupported by reliable sources. It needs to be changed. Yogi Bearstein (talk) 03:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
The whole article, but especially the Template at the beginning seems to distort the status of Beit El as an entity. I removed the template in Beit El, as it distorts the actual status of the entity. For a user reading the page it seems like Beit El is an uncontroversial city in Israel. The article make it seem like the Israeli point of view, and not the international point of view, concerning the status of Beit El is favoured. Karimmtl 11:45, 29 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karimmtl (talk • contribs) 11:33, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
I tried to click the link regarding a citation to verification that the "land was owned by a 7 year old Palestinian" and the link is incorrect. It only points to an article in Haaretz that is non-authoritative. Rather than alter someone elses submission I put a note behind the citation that there is a problem with it. I didn't say the information was wrong or right, I just asked for an accurate verification of the claim the citation supposedly verifies. I've searched pretty exhaustively and cannot find any verification of that claim so if someone has something concrete please correct the citation and feel free to delete my note. If I could find verification I would have done all that myself. CloaknDagr (talk) 02:33, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
The whole section is sourced to here: http://writingtw.blogspot.com/2009/11/court-to-govt-why-destroy-beit-el.html . this doesn't seem like a reliable source for anything. Furthermore, the paragraph:
==House demolition== In November 2009, the Israeli Supreme Court ordered the state to explain within 30 days why it had ordered the demolition of ten buildings in Beit El. The attorney for Kiryat HaYeshiva Beit El company presented documentation showing that the land on which the buildings stand was legally purchased from the previous Arab owner. The buildings are located on the lower heights of Pisgat Yaakov, also known as Jabal Artis, overlooking Beit El to the south and west.<:ref>Supreme Court to Government: Why Destroy Beit El Buildings</ref>
is plagiarized from the blog. I'm moving it here for comments and until a reliable source can be found, for which I'm looking now. I wouldn't have removed the paragraph if it weren't plagiarized, but just noted that the source is not reliable.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:07, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
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change "The international community considers Israeli settlements in the West Bank illegal under international law, but the Israeli government disputes this." to "The international community considers Israeli settlements in the West Bank illegal under international law, but the Israeli government disputes this. The U.S. government also does not consider Israeli settlements in the West Bank to be illegal under international law." Source: https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/19/united-states-reverses-stance-on-israeli-settlements/ Judy Somerville (talk) 21:23, 16 December 2019 (UTC)