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Here are a few examples of boosterism that were added to the article. Attempts to revert these additions have failed, so I'm going to restore the tag and maybe we can discuss these.
Kendall-K1 (talk) 03:28, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether the back-and-forth about the rankings is simply confused editing, but whatever is causing it, this is a potted history of efforts to remove the rankings, particularly the U.S. News rankings and the paragraph about safety.
Winged Blades of Godric, that you weren't aware of the connection between this article and the RfC is one good reason to undo your close. The RfC should be closed as inconclusive. No consensus emerged from it, and it was opened by the executive director of corporate communications at the Cleveland Clinic, who (I believe inadvertently) bypassed consensus here by not informing us of the RfC, although the issue was very much about this article. She was aided in that by two of this page's editors (Bluerasberry and Jytdog), who also didn't inform us.
The U.S. News & World Report rankings, first compiled about 29 years ago, compare 4,500 medical centers in several specialities. The rankings place the Cleveland Clinic highly in some areas and less so in others. Since 2015 several accounts associated with the Cleveland Clinic have tried to remove or rewrite these and other rankings, particularly the safety rankings, or change how they're presented.
Potted history
The U.S. News rankings were added when the article was created in 2004, although focusing only on strengths. By 2007, more detail had been added, but not in table form. FeatherPluma, a banned sock who said he was connected to Case Western Reserve University (which I believe runs an MD programme with the Cleveland Clinic), removed the rankings in May 2015 (alongside other edits), then 162.129.250.14 restored them in table form.
In August–September 2015, HealthMonitor, who said he worked at the Cleveland Clinic and had "volunteered to monitor [its] Wikipedia presence", rewrote the article, which included removing the U.S. News table. By 30 September the article looked like an ad. On 13 October, Elvey reverted HealthMonitor's edits, which restored the table. Bluerasberry reverted Elvey. After more reverting, Shock Brigade Harvester Boris restored the pre-HealthMonitor version, so the table was back. (In 2016 Bluerasberry created History of Cleveland Clinic used HealthMonitor's text.)
HealthMonitor remained involved (see Archive 1 and COIN, October 2015), assisted by BlueRasberry, but didn't remove the table again. In July 2017, Eileen Sheil, executive director of corporate communications at Cleveland Clinic, arrived on the talk page as ClevelandClinicES, and proposed a rewrite of the reputation section. At first she didn't suggest removing the table, but in February 2018, in response to a suggestion from Kendall, she proposed removing the table and summarizing the rankings instead; she suggested edits related to other rankings too. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris and I objected, and the edit wasn't made.
RfC in May–June
Eileen Sheil's next edit was in May 2018 to open the RfC on WikiProject Hospitals, without leaving a note here or pinging anyone on this page. The RfC asked that the rules "for how hospital reputation, rankings, ratings, and awards are handled" be made consistent across articles. Eleven editors responded, but there was no clear pattern to the responses. Several said they didn't mind there being no single standard. Others seemed not to be familiar with issue. Someone mentioned the difficulty of maintaining one standard across different countries; one said there was no widely accepted ranking in the U.S.; one said rankings were puffery; another (Jytdog) suggested barring non-government rankings; someone else wanted to include and standardize them.
Winged Blades of Godric (WBG) closed the RfC in June, writing that there was "numerical as well as policy based consensus to ☒ reject the usage of rating(s)/reputation-review(s) by NGOs and other private entities". But there was no such consensus, and what "policy-based consensus" refers to is not explained. That appears to me to be a supervote. One participant, Natureium, wrote on 27 June that there had been no consensus. Blue Rasberry agreed.
Removal of information in August
In July I shortened the U.S. News table by making it wider. In August Jytdog, then Kendall-K1, referring to the RfC, removed not only the table, but all the other rankings, including the safety rankings that hospital representatives had tried to remove or rewrite. I've asked Kendall-K1 twice why he did that, but he won't say. SarahSV (talk) 02:38, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
it was opened by the executive director of corporate communications at the Cleveland Clinic, who (I believe inadvertently) bypassed consensus here by not informing us of the RfC, although the issue was very much about this article. She was aided in that by two of this page's editors (Bluerasberry and Jytdog), who also didn't inform us.
....reject the usage of rating(s)/reputation-review(s) by NGOs and other private entities.
...may be used at editorial discretion, without being subject to the outcome of this RFC.
Local editorial discussions (over some centralized place, which might be here) may carve out individual exceptions for those private-reviews which have been extensively relied upon by other reliable sources/have been extensively covered in reliable sources and have not been near-unanimously criticized by the academic community.
suddenly there was an RfC closure that none of us knew about, triggered by a paid editor, being used to remove the rankings.
For the record: The accounts User:Wikiuser5991 and User:Tempest2552 are not affiliated with my work on Wikipedia. As far as I am aware, they were never authorized by Cleveland Clinic to make any edits on its behalf. I am the sole representative of Cleveland Clinic on Wikipedia. When I created my account in July 2017, I pledged I would not edit Cleveland Clinic articles directly as a result of my conflict of interest. I am currently looking into this internally to determine what happened.
Out of respect to editors who offered feedback when I originally proposed updates to Reputation, and the consensus from the RfC where I asked about the established standard for how ratings and rankings are included on hospital Wikipedia articles, I will recuse myself from the above and any further discussion of this article's Reputation section.
Also, a quick note of apology: My RfC was meant to be a more general question on how rankings and reputation should be set up. Because it was a more general question about hospital articles throughout Wikipedia and not a specific question about Cleveland Clinic, it had not occurred to me that I should ping this Talk page about the RfC. I will be more mindful in the future to keep editors here in the loop. ClevelandClinicES (talk) 16:03, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Wikipedians. I've uploaded 10 historical Cleveland Clinic images to Wikimedia Commons that can be used in this article, or perhaps History of Cleveland Clinic. These include historical photographs of Cleveland Clinic buildings, labs, doctors, and the aftermath of the 1929 Cleveland Clinic fire. I also uploaded an image of the Cleveland Plain Dealer's May 16, 1929 front page on the day after the fire. I'm not asking for all of these images to be used, or even any photo in particular. I simply wanted to provide the Wikipedia community with additional resources for your disposal. The images are:
Blue Rasberry, are any of these images helpful? As Cleveland Clinic’s representative on Wikipedia, I have a financial conflict of interest and will not make changes to the article myself. Thanks, ClevelandClinicES (talk) 20:08, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 04:24, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I noticed that recent edits have introduced outdated and incorrect information to the article.
The infobox claims Cleveland Clinic has 1,500 beds (no citation given in the article). However, our main campus bed count is 1,348; total for enterprise is 4,540. Unfortunately, these current figures have not been published yet, but given that the incorrect figure in the article is unsourced, I wanted to place the correct figure here for editors to consider.
The editor had also added that Cleveland Clinic's main campus had a Level I adult and pediatric trauma emergency department. That was removed, and the article now says the main campus has a "Level II adult & pediatric trauma". Cleveland Clinic's main campus emergency department is a non-trauma center. The Northeast Ohio Trauma System confirms Cleveland Clinic's emergency services.
I wanted to note here for future reference: Cleveland Clinic Akron General has a Level I Adult Trauma Center, Cleveland Clinic Fairview has a Level II Adult Trauma Center, and Cleveland Clinic Hillcrest has a Level II Adult Trauma Center.
Various other stats were updated using figures Cleveland Clinic reported from 2018, such as number of hospitals and facilities, employees, physicians, specialties, and main campus size. I will present updated 2019 stats once published.
As Cleveland Clinic’s representative on Wikipedia, I have a financial conflict of interest and will not make changes to the article myself. Thank you, ClevelandClinicES (talk) 13:37, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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I'm not sure if there is a way to do this within template parameters, but in addition to a helipad, Cleveland Clinic additionally has operated out of the airport 3G3 in Wadsworth, Ohio since 2018.[1] I'm not sure how to do that. C2 J45driver16 (talk) 06:38, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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