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I started cleaning up the article (after the redirect). The intro needed to be consolidated, as with small hanging sections, and general formatting. It still needs plenty of work, particularly from people familiar with the subject at a graduate or expert level, but all editors can help. Ocaasi (talk) 11:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
I find the classification of Turkey as a less religious country highly questionable. We should look for more reliable sources of data about religiosity. Unfortunately, I don't know better sources, but if I come across anything, I will come back and integrate it. Andreas Eisele (talk) 09:48, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
A recent Edit of the Lead used a line break ("<br/>") at the end of the first line & the first sentence avoid a "new-paragraph" space after each. The 1st line followed with bulleted items to facilitate locating "the first" & "the second" somewhat longish phrases referred to in the next sentence. One alternative would be to number the 1st and 2nd phrases without any line break for the next sentence. I just thought that that would look unnecessarily formal. Another alternative would be to shorten the somewhat longish phrases and remove the alleged need for bullets. There was enough content IMO to avoid shortening them.
The last paragraph of the Lead now also has a break to end the 1st line (as here) & thereby avoids a line space after the first line for the bullets that follow. If all the bulleted items were short, commas (and no line break) rather than bullets IMO would be fine. But again, I believe that there is enough content in the longer bulleted lines & the list is long enough to warrant the bullets. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 20:37, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Agreed that some book-or-article cites might be moved down. But it might be a tricky thing doing one-at-time. The bulleted points hang together as to the multiple works cited per fn. So, copying rather than moving might be more appropriate for a single source cited. Let me make some other points in a separate subsection to simplify addressing them. (Discussion here on the above could of course continue.) For ease of reference, I'll number them. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 20:01, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
1T. That would desirable. Best would be at least 2 paragraphs apiece, per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (layout)#Paragraphs. Since the Table of Contents would include the headings, they wouldn't be necessary in the Lead. Of course doing a good job integrating the references might take some time to do right. Meanwhile the bulleted Lead lines with fn. I believe would be serving a useful function.
2T. The current 2nd section 2 Economics of religion#Market situation would be an obvious place to work some of the early bulleted Lead subjects. I think (1T) would still apply there.
3T. The later sections from sect. 3 Economics of religion#Major debates have their own logic. I think copying references from the Lead might still be appropriate.
4T. If more general bulleted Lead topics (for example, • "club models of religion" and • "religious militancy in various forms") lent themselves to absorbing some of the later subsections — for example "Cults" — that could be explored. But that subsection is under "Secularization and religious economy". So, it might be sensible to retain & allow for co-existence. All I'm saying is that different organizations should considered on their own merits rather requiring a "good idea" to decide the matter without examining its context within the larger article. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 20:01, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Re this message requesting clarification for the tagging, I think the issues are discussed above on this talk page. The bullet list added to the lead needs to expanded to a set of sections (see WP:LEAD). The current article appears focused mainly on controversies, so a restructuring is needed, in line with the above. I don't know if the numerous citation requests in the body are justified or not, but it seems something worth alerting editors about. Tijfo098 (talk) 15:58, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
This article uncritically applies one particular explanation for religion on many states, as if it were a fact. Andries (talk) 15:08, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
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Vale a pena traduzir? att 2804:14C:5BB3:A319:8029:ED3F:3C93:4C81 (talk) 19:48, 23 June 2020 (UTC)