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Is this ready for WP:PR yet do you think? KillerChihuahua?!? 00:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
The "economic downturn" in Economic Conditions in the 1870's is clearly referencing the Long Depression, but that article needs work. I feel it should be a piped link, but hesitate to do so until the target article is improved. Thoughts? KillerChihuahua?!? 01:37, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
It looks pretty good, but there are no direct references connecting assertions with sources. Guettarda 14:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Railroad overbuilding was a consequence of land grants and subsudies by government, not laissez-faire. The article has been changed to reflect this.
Also, is a socialist website an unbiased place to gain wage information? Is there not a better unbiased historical source?
Should have a brief mention about the riots in the Coal Region (notably in Shamokin). Also Reading; cf. Franklin B. Gowen (but nothing there, either). Billbrock 07:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I've added a little, with more to come, on the Franklin B. Gowen page re Reading, PA events (have also set up beginnings of the corresponding Reading Railroad Massacre page). In addition to Shamokin, PA events, Harrisburg should get at least a mention. Also Scranton cannot be left out -- big goings-on there, including shooting deaths, lawsuit actions against the locally organized militia who did the shooting, and state militia encampment from August into October (well beyond the 45 days indicated in current article). Shimjung1 20:03, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
Franklin B. Gowen is substantial now, including regarding the Great Strike. Nice to see the Shamokin material added, but lack of content on Scranton is still a big hole -- federal troops were stationed there to prevent recurrence of uprising until almost November 1877, later than elsewhere. Shimjung1 (talk) 01:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Just a note that many of the ref links don't work. Maybe someone could update them, or find the original links on the Internet Archive? bobanny 21:57, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
The article gives very vague descriptions of the workers' reasons for striking. Moreover, it...well just have a look at the causes and strike sections; judge for yourself. It makes the workers sound like unorganized mobs, and with questionable motives. If this is so, DISCUSS THIS! Don't just weaslingly imply it.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.236.67 (talk) 14:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Correct. The "Laying Blame" section puts the onus on the workers! "Agitators" are to blame. "Communists" at work! "Idle hands" with little to do except revolt! This whole article is a joke. Missaeagle (talk) 16:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure about one part of this recent edit:
Is there some known reason to link the Brotherhood of Engineers and Firemen to the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen (which later became the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen and Enginemen), other than they have similar names and organized the same occupations? I think this link may be misleading. At the very least, if they're not the same organization (and i don't think they are), the reason for the link should be briefly explained. Richard Myers (talk) 20:27, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Is important to know the number of wounded and killed workers during the strike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.164.52.89 (talk) 14:33, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, the strike, according to contemporary accounts (Harpers from 8/11/1877 http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/sk7711.Html) clearly began in Baltimore, not in Martinsburg. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.246.71.61 (talk) 15:07, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
I came across this while trying to edit the very problematic entry for Archbishop Purcell of Cincinnati, who died under a cloud six years after this strike and five years after his brother was accused of mismanaging monies of a quasi-bank supposedly established after the Civil War or Panic of 1873 because parishioners feared the risks taken by local banks. Since Cincinnati has railroads, and a history of unrest relating to its large German population (many of them Catholic and vigorously defended by this same bishop before the Civil War), I wondered exactly what the link between the financial events could be. However, I don't have time (given my other responsibilities) to visit a library to find out.13:28, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
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I'm going ahead and starting this conversation in case there's not much interest and it takes a while, or an RfC to reach any sort of consensus. Currently I count six articles that that are really sub-articles of this one:
So there's a wide variety of naming used, and it seems to make sense to see if they can be standardized at all. We have riots, strikes, massacres, and general strikes. The Baltimore and Pittsburgh articles were created by me, and the names were chosen with no purpose other than to create a space to write the articles. The Scranton article actually had an RfC about the name, and I was probably the single largest opponent of the change. Even so, it was a fairly weak argument either way.
My main opposition to the Scranton name change was that it was a distraction and otherwise relatively unimportant. However, since, I've created the last two articles, and fully intend to create the next half dozen or so more as needed, there is a risk that any naming convention I choose more-or-less at random, might become an argument for adopting that standard for no real reason.
My inclination, on articles that don't have a clear WP:COMMONNAME rationale, is simply to adopt an adaptation of the main article name: CITY railroad strike of 1877. This is what I've done with the Baltimore article. Consensus would have to be reached in cases where there is a moderate or strong COMMONNAME argument to be made. Thoughts and suggestions welcome. TimothyJosephWood 21:37, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Moving this content to talk since it is almost entirely referenced and likely contains significant OR. TimothyJosephWood 13:48, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
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The strike and its repercussions were attributed to a number of factors by contemporaries:[citation needed]
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Hello @GreenMeansGo: and any other interested editors -- I've just requested page protection to counter the persistent minor vandalism here -- Green, thank you for keeping after this. --Lockley. (talk) 18:15, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
The page was moved unilaterally yesterday. I came here to read discussion on the consensus for the move and found none. I advocate that it be moved back. The historic reference is “Great Railroad Strike of 1877.” Jeff in CA (talk) 17:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
I'm noting there's language in the article that might reflect bias. EG, "The local population feared workers would . . ." The local population is comprised of workers so the statement doesn't make sense. More specificity would fix this. EG, what population? Was it newspaper editors? Was it business owners? A source would also help on this, as there is presently none for the claim.
"Defensive buildings still stand" Why are we describing buildings that would have been utilized to violently suppress strikes and other forms of domestic resistance as defensive? Wouldn't it make more sense to describe them as oppressive as the goal was not to defend against something external but to oppress resistance? More neutral language would be to remove the word defensive as it implies bias against the workers. SocialCM (talk) 11:43, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 3 February 2023 and 18 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Strensch22, JSL22 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Manweyyyy, Ijrokusek22.
— Assignment last updated by Public-historian-90 (talk) 19:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
We added a sentence to the lead. We redid the introduction to the strike paragraph. Added to the strike ends paragraph. We also added a general effects paragraph. JSL22 (talk) 17:18, 5 May 2023 (UTC)