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In hogwarts there are 4 houses. Giffindor Hufflepuff Ravenclaw and Slytherin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiifit888 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
With the exception of the introductory paragraph, the entire article is written "in universe" style. There's no component of the article that talks about the subject's literary aspect. For example, the name "Hogwarts Academy" is taken from the Thomas Wolfe novel "The Hills Beyond." Moreover, the role of a boarding school in coming of age novels has a long historical tradition, and this example is meaningful in many ways. There's an immense amount of fictional information here, which is fine, but not nearly enough information that is outside of the fictional realm. 75.9.168.191 (talk) 01:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
"The climactic battle of the book, and the series, however, is set at Hogwarts."
I'd go easy on that bit of information so high up in the article. At least for another few weeks.--Pittsburghmuggle 03:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
There needs to be a spoiler alert on this page, because multiple areas talk about after the novels are completed (Defense Against the Dark Arts is one)207.38.14.5 (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Which ancillary staff member used this method? The textual basis for this statement should be specified or it should be removed. savidan(talk) (e@) 20:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't there be a link to Hogwarts layout somewhere within the article? 70.50.174.238 14:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC) HOGWARTS IS REAL! IT'S NOT A FAKE!
The website http://www.oddment-tweak.com features architectural models and floorplans which adhere precisely to the textual information about Hogwarts.--Harper09 22:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I find people are especially interested in a floor plan of Hogwarts based on the films, rather than the books. One can be found at http://hogwartscampus.com. Can this link be added to the external links? --RWulf (talk) 05:13, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
The rest of Wikipedia consistently uses the American spealling, so why are we suddenly using the British spelling here? E946 16:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
We should at least be consistent. If "enrollment" has been decided upon, I'm changing it in the info box to match. 70.53.0.122 16:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Have to back up T.J. Fuller here. Enrolment is the only accepted spelling, as a quick dip in the OED confirms.User:cmsg
I just reverted an American I.P.'s address change of 'enrolment' to 'enrollment' despite the explicit warning in the edit page... *sighs* Please guys, British related article = British spelling. ScarianTalk 16:20, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
If you all are so keen on having enrollment spelled in the British way, then why don't you change the entire article to British spelling? The word 'color' is used in the article and it's spelled in the American way. Having just one word spelled differently looks out of place and throws the reader off, so either do it all the way or don't do it at all. *EDIT: I would change the rest of the article to UK English myself, but I am American so I don't want to change things to UK English for fear of doing it completley wrong.*—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.133.155 (talk) 18:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
After seeing the disorganized state of the current article, I decided that it would be a good idea to completely rewrite this article. I set up a user subpage to edit behind the scenes. i'm more or less done, and I want to make sure nobody has a problem with it before I make the change (Which is why I put in the template)
There's only a few issues right now, including:
The new article can be found here. Please make any changes you want. In a week, I'll copy everything over to this article if nobody has any major objections.
E946 08:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
If nobody else has any problems with this, then i'll just change it over when I wake up later today. E946 09:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Out of curiosity, where does JKR say that the Salem witches institute is a school. The only hint we get from the books implies the Salem WI is exactly that, a branch of the womens Institute. I don't know if this existsin the US, but in the Uk this is essentially a club for adult qomen, traditionly hot on cooking, household interestes, and giving politicians a bad time. Sandpiper 18:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Where does it say people may appear in this book any time up to age 11? I understood it to be a magical book which records every birth when it happens, though I have no idea where information about it comes from. Sandpiper 18:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't recall any mention of anyone paying fees to go to Hogwarts, so why do we suggest that there might be some. The only mention I recall is essentially if the school paying students, never the other way around. Sandpiper 18:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
AS far as I am aware, there is no mention of school fees at Hogwarts. There is, however, a sort of scholarship available for students who do not have enough money to pay for their books etc, as with Tom Riddle.
There are two mentions that come to mind for me. First, in PS, Uncle Vernon says he will not pay for some crackpot to teach Harry magic tricks, or something of that nature. Second, In ch.13 of HBP, the young Tom Riddle tells Dumbledore he hasn't got any money, and Dumbledore says that there is a fund at Hogwarts for those who require assistance to buy books and robes. Why the Weasleys didn't take advantage of this, I don't know. :P As for whether or not there is a fee for attending, I imagine there is, though I think those mentions are the closest we come to learning about it. faithless (speak) 20:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I looked through this article and was quite perturbed to discover that the only mention of the students' uniforms is in the items contained in the acceptance letter to Hogwarts. I also was unable to find any other article about the Hogwarts uniforms. Was this merely an oversight of mine or is there truly no Wikipedia information about this subject? If so, can that please be rectified by a knowledgeable member? 70.107.96.220 20:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
It would be intersting to know which castle was used -- Lee Carré 08:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I know that the set for the castle was based on a castle in UK, Oxford, I'm pretty sure. And, I think it's now it a university. I'll try to get the name of it. Timeroot (talk) 09:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
If anyone wants this in the article, it should be incorporated into the existing text, not in its own section. John Reaves 22:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Trivia
Yes, that really does not need its own section. However, it is true-I saw it in a factual dinosaur pictre book. --Glimmer721 (talk) 00:49, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
It is my understanding that prefects, in fact, DO NOT have the authority to dock points. The exception to this was when Malfoy was on the Inquisitorial Squad.
Percy Weasly docked 5 points from Gryffindor when he caught Harry and Ron either coing out of, or going into Moaning Myrtle's bathroom ( a girl bathroom which is out of order_ in Chamber of Secrets. Lord loss210 (talk) 22:07, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I was just editing Black Lake (Disambiguation) and Loch Shiel (Black Lake in the films), and I'm surprised to see that Black Lake isn't mentioned in Hogwarts. Can somebody please add? Thanks. -- 201.50.248.179 09:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, all for intelligent handling of this topic. IMHO (1) We should add a quick mention of "the lake" to Hogwarts (2) We should mention that it's called "the Black Lake" in the films, but not in the books. -- 201.50.248.179 15:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hogwarts disipline is bad. Filch hangs students by there toes.
I made an SVG version of the Coat of Arms og Hogwarts, and replaced the old jpeg with it. It was soon reverted because John Reaves called it "cartoony", and I must admit, the first version was pretty cartoony. But having improved it to what you see on the above, I don't see why having the old jpeg would be favourable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Rules_of_thumb
“ | "Use JPEG format for photographic images, and SVG format for icons, logos, drawings, maps, flags, and such, falling back to PNG when only a raster image is available. Use GIF format for inline animations, Ogg/Theora for video." | ” |
I'm sure there are many pretty low-res jpeg images of the US president's seal, but for some reason, an svg is preferred.
If you think this SVG looks like shit, just (say what to) improve, instead of whining "it's impossible to make it better", because thats simply not true - Hogwarts' logo is a very simple logo. A classic case of a vectorisable jpeg.
S. Solberg J.
16:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
The O.W.L.s roughly corresponds to the O(rdinary)-level (now replaced by GCSE), and the N.E.W.T.s to the A-level examinations used in the English state school system. I'm fairly sure they are used in all schools, I went to a private school and took A-Levels. Sabine's Sunbird talk 06:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Are you really sure that when One of the Weasley Twins or Lee Jorden (can't remember who) said that Troll was the lowerest mark that they were being serious? I only say this because I took that as a joke conisdering the twins sense of humour and that Snape always gave Harry D's in Potions lessons. Surely if the grade actually existed, Snape would have given it.Wild ste 22:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
The "Troll" is definitely an actual grade, as can be seen when Harry, Ron and Hermione receive their OWL grades. The professors are not the ones to administer the OWLs, so Snape had no say in the grades given to students. Faithlessthewonderboy 16:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Looking through the Potter pages, before the new book, I saw Professor Charity Burbage as the Muggle Studies teacher, which book was she introduced in? As I don't recall the name and it's not in the HP lexicon.
On Jkr's website
In Deathly Hallows 86.12.251.193 17:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't see how the Latin motto could be correct grammatically. Dragon and sleeping are in the Nominative case (they should be in the Accusative) and "tickle" here is a perfect passive participle. Unless it is a very rare form which isn't taught until AP Latin courses, it doesn't look right at all. The closest thing I could imagine is the Future Passive Periphrastic (I think I'm meaning that) where the sentence in Latin is Passive must be reversed to be active in English. If I'm not naming it right (a summer without school will do that to you), the most famous example of what I'm trying to talk about is probably "Carthago delenda est," Carthage must be destroyed. I wouldn't be bringing this up really, but I think that the Latin is incorrect might be something to mention. If it is perfectly fine Latin and I've just forgotten the form, ignore this. Millancad 16:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
All I can tell you is that when JK came up with the motto, she actually asked a Latin teacher (or expert, not sure which) to give her the Latin form of it, and thats what he gave her. So she did her research and if it is incorrect, blame the person who gave it to her.Wild ste 11:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Draco and dormiens nunquam titillandus. Here dragon and sleeping are indeed in the nominative, and titillandus is a gerundive: a verbal noun meaning "a thing which should be x" where x is the original verb. The phrase itself contains no finite verb. This is a permitted idiom in Latin, and the appropriate form of the verb "sum" is assumed. As "sum" is a copula, or linking verb, Draco (and hence dormiens) does indeed take the nominative. The whole is then, literally, "The/A sleeping dragon (is) never a thing that should be tickled". "Never tickle a sleeping dragon" would be a quite reasonable translation. cmsg
I might add that given the meaning of the gerundive, a good translation which is both literal and natural would be, A sleeping dragon oughtn't be tickled. The verb ought best describes the mild, subtle implications of necessity of the gerundive + implied sum. I don't agree with the given translation, as there is no actual command in the latin, but rather a stated suggestion. You could say, "they're more like guidelines, than actual rules." However, the english is, as per Wild Ste, probably just what Rowling gave the Latin expert, who did do a good job rendering the phrase succinctly in Latin, and it is a proper, though very liberal, rendering of the Latin translation. While the linguistically minded might notice that Noun number doesn't match between the two, nor the choice of verb case, time or aspect, a non-linguistically minded Harry Potter fan could excitedly map the pair Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus to Never bother sleeping dragons, never noticing that they don't really match up. By the way, Millancad, "Carthago delanda est" is a good example of this, but in that case the est was stated, instead of implied. (More like the HP motto, you could say, Carthago delanda). Remember, this usage is rather like the english saying, "Sleeping dragons are not to be disturbed" or "Carthage is to be destroyed". The confusion is brought in when translators try to be more modern. The is to be -ed construction is english, if a bit more literary. As a point of interest, search "is to be" with the quotes in google. You will find many results, showing that it is indeed good grammar. You will also see a wikipedia article concerning an old Soviet pamphlet called, "what is to be done", translated from Что делать?, literally, "What to do?" which one also hears in english.
There is no source for the motto! Is it from an interview, a website..? It's certainly not in any of the books. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.66.57.98 (talk) 19:40, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
I know it's seen with the crest in the movies and the related official memorabilia. I'm trying to find a properly sourced image of it now; Wikia wikis aren't as good about providing paper trails... I also seem to recall some official source or another stating that it was "Never Tickle a Sleeping Dragon". I do believe the word "tickle" is included intentionally for its Potteresque absurdity, so it's probably not best to translate it away into a generic phrase like the current English version. Again, I'll find proper sources for this before I change anything. payco —Preceding undated comment added 04:17, 5 October 2011 (UTC).
This article began with the words "In the wizarding world, the parallel universe created ...". This is a problem. "Wizarding world" is a phrase from fandom, and should not be used in the same tone an marterial from the books, without explicitly distinguishing the two. Secondly, Rowling has in no sense created a "parallel universe". She has written books. This is not an aspersion on the depth of the world she has described, but the phrase is inapporpriate. It would be equally so in the imagined worlds of Tolkein or Lewis.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmsg (talk • contribs) 17:11, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Hogwarts: A History is the name of a fictional book about a fictional place. To use it as a title in an article seems out of place to me. History seems more apt, since it is a history of the place. 89.241.168.99 01:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Is there any explanation of why Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw and Slytherin would have chosen the name "Hogwarts" (was it a historical name for the castle, an honorary name for a famous wizard-teacher of history? etc) --Dystopos 15:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Should Minerva McGonagall be listed as the present head of Hogwarts? I would say no, but I am unsure as to whether 'present' refers to the present day in relation to the beginning of the series - making 'present' mean just after the battle of hogwarts - in which case it is correct, or if it refers to the epilogue, i.e. 19 years from now, in which case it is wrong. The One 16:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree. Minerva became Acting Headmistress by default when Snape did a bunk and was killed by Voldemort, but from JKR's interview on the Today show, there is an implication that she never became full Headmistress (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323) as she was "getting on a bit". The article is written too definitely, and I've therefore added a "fact" (citation needed) tag. AndyB 17:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
do hogwarts students wear hats? theres 2 references in philosopher's stone book and 1 in film, but i cant really see them wearing hats all the time.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.202.47.43 (talk) 06:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't they gray lady helena ravnclaw, the daughter of rowena, who stole her diadem and hid it in albania? The article says it is rowena.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.117.241 (talk) 12:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Template:HP School has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I've just reverted an edit that involved someone changing the 'dates' that Severus Snape was head of Slytherin at Hogwarts from HP1 to HP 6 to HP1 to HP5. The reason I changed it back was because Snape was still head of slytherin in HP 6 until running away from Hogwarts and being duly preceeded by Horace Slughorn. I am right in doing this aren't I? Lradrama 14:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Does the Ordinary Wizarding Levels have any notability outside of its relation to Hogwarts? No. This article is just a reexplanation of the plot of the various harry potter books, and as such, should be merged into Hogwarts. Judgesurreal777 05:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Fleur said that at Buabatons,(or however it's spelled) they take their examinations, so we might not want to merge if it's an aspect at other schools. However, we don't know if they're called the same thing in France, so I dunno what to do with it...... Maybe merge it here, but make a little note at the bottom that other schools may or may not have a similar system? Yeah, I think that's a good idea. Keyblade Mage 21:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC) Keyblade Mage
How is this infobox category at all noteworthy? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 19:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
At the beginning of the opening credits for 2005 movie "Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit" the camera pans over a photograph of Gromit graduating from "Dogwarts University." Should this be mentioned as a 'popular culture' reference to Hogwarts? John 210.246.6.33 13:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Can someone explain how this listcruft is actually useful? I am tempted to yank it. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 20:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I think it looks unbelievably tacky, having all these infoboxes on the same page, when most of them have two pieces of information in the, which could easily be covered in the accompanying text. Is anyone else in favour of getting shot of them? asyndeton 21:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Is there really a need to mention all classrooms? For example, the description of the Ancient Runes classroom is ridiculous, the teacher was not even mentioned, neither the classroom, and the location is "unknown". Same with Arithmancy and some other stuff. Lord Opeth 01:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone tell me where it is mentioned in the book that citizens of the ROI also attend hogwarts? --Camaeron (talk) 15:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Bear in mind part of Ireland lies in the UK. --Camaeron (talk) 21:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
since at hogwarts there are 4 houses,with 10 kids per year,out of a 7 year enrollment.5 boys,5gils,10x70=2,800 stundents..clause i'm making a lego hogwarts to scale,soo this is it. 70 ppl per house,4 houses,10 ppl in each year.plus the techears..round 20,plus 100 elves,plus like 50+ ghosts....that puts the total ppl at hogwarts like-3000..and owls to,...so studnets should be 2,800,not counting the rest,not 600- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.21.237 (talk) 02:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
ahh yes,sorry bout the other 0s...96.224.176.40 (talk) 00:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that this list is completely needless. The article is already large and has lots of information repeated within itself. Lord Opeth (talk) 03:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
What's the name of the actual castle the film is shot in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.122.193 (talk) 00:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
try Alnwick Castle#FilmsCheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.30.184.9 (talk) 02:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I added a little section on this topic, which I think is quite notable considering the books are supposed to take place in the 1990s. If anyone can find a better place to put it, or if it can be incorporated into one of the other sections, please feel free. 23skidoo (talk) 15:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the lyrics to the school song as copyvio. WP:LYRICS and other Wikipedia copyright policies prohibit the use of copyrighted song lyrics beyond one or two lines. Even though created as part of a book, the lyrics to the Hogwarts school song are still considered to be copyrighted lyrics. 23skidoo (talk) 15:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the section named "Arrival" currently reads [1]:
I have highlighted the problematic areas in bold
The sentence beginning "It is not clear if..." is speculation. We speculate that traveling on the Hogwarts express may be compulsory although this question is never addressed in the books or the films.
The sentence beginning "Presumably" is also speculation. That's what "presumably" means.
The following sentence is also speculation:
It's speculation because, again, it introduces a novel idea by appeal to the absence of anything to contradict the statement.
These three items of speculation are original research and I propose that they be removed, resulting in the following:
--Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 06:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
After making an addition to the Order of the Phoenix game I noticed that the Grand Staircase is missing from this article, I think it's quite a important location and should really be mentioned. But I'm not the one who can do such a thing and thought it's best to note it should be mentioned and leave it to the people who can do it best. --Jammy (talk) 21:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Is the list of all classrooms and offices really needed? I think that for encyclopedic purposes, that information is not important at all. Some Hogwarts locations played an important roll in the series, for example the CoS, Room of Requirement, Forbidden Forest, the PS hiding place, or even the dormitories, Hagrid's Hut, or the Library, but the list of all classrooms and most of the offices (except the Headmaster's Tower) should be removed. Same with some locations like Kitchens, Great Hall, Hospital Wing, Trophy Room, Prefect's Bathroom, Owlery, and White Tomb are useless and make this article extremely large. --Lord Opeth (talk) 14:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The Hogwarts houses article was moved into this one as it failed to meet Notability. Only a trimmed version of it was merged in here as that article also listed the founders and the ghosts, which were moved to Hogwarts staff. I also removed the section about "History" as it was a re-tell of plot and almost all the info in there was repeated (for example the opening of the Chamber). --Lord Opeth (talk) 00:20, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
In the books, do the staircases really move around as they do in the first film? Thanks. 98.27.163.42 (talk) 19:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Rahaka, Andromeda was listed in Slytherin. She is Tonk's MOTHER. Tonk's herself was in Hufflepuff, I'll edit it back for you.A Prodigy (talk) 09:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
the remark about him should be removed, because of statements from last couple of chapters from DH
dumbledore has noted that they are "sorting too soon", and harry has stated in the epilogue that snape was "probably the bravest man he knew", as such wouldn't fell into slytherin, by far. sorting of the sorting hat is permanent, but it occurs at only 11 years of age.--PrimEviL 13:30, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Has this been discussed? This article is HUGE can't something be done about it's length?--Sugarcubez (talk) 15:44, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I think that this article is too long. Zappo123456789 (talk) 08:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Could anyone get a sound file with the pronunciation of this word? I have no idea how is it done - probably someone records a sample and uploads it. I have no idea how to pronounce it. It looks like one of the "old English" words with the "ths" 93.105.146.121 (talk) 01:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
I come with this proposal but there is actually no article to merge in here. With the sub-sections of the plot section of Deathly Hallows removed, the page of the Battle of Hogwarts (BoH) redirected nowhere, as it previously redirected to a sub-section named "Battle of Hogwarts". I created a temporary page to decide where to merge it, but an admin decided to delete it, and then protected the page.
A page named "Battle of Hogwarts" was deleted in the past, but the deleted versions refered to the battle of the sixth book (the one in the tower, Dumbledore's death, etc.) The page I recreated for further merger had completely new content, refering to the actual Battle of Hogwarts (the one of the final book), however the admin deleted it. I asked him to let us create a section in the Hogwarts article about the BoH, but he decided that such section shall not exist, and redirected the Battle of Hogwarts to the Hogwarts article and protected it again.
The Battle of Hogwarts may have no outside notability, however there are some other battles about other fictional stories such as Battle of the Morannon, First Battle of Beruna, Battle of the Line, and many more. Even with this, I am not asking to restore the page, but only to have a small section in this article (Hogwarts) giving basic information about the Battle of Hogwarts, and then maybe protect it again to avoid further recreation of the page. This is because the page is linked in several articles, and the event was crucial in the climax of the series.
Any thoughts? --LoЯd ۞pεth 03:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
The english translation of the motto should be changed to, "A sleeping dragon ought never to be tickled," as Titillandus is a gerundive.Captain Gamma (talk) 22:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
OkCaptain Gamma (talk) 02:28, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
I noticed just that this article is in a big MESS. So lets begin with the basic. First of all are you sure that Care for magical creatures is a optional subject in year three. Lets remind you that Harry attended this subject in his first year. The lessons are described as prety boring because they were studing about little bugs and stuff, also that there is some old proffesor who teaches this subject and he retired in book three. Than I'll suggest that we should add more details about the uniforms. I mean please, plain work robes in black, plain black hat, a pair of protective gloves and a black winter cloak with silver fastenings??? What is this? Than I am quoting "Each uniform must contain the wearer's nametag". Are you serious? Ok I am not saying to go to details and to write about the scarvs, but where are the classic uniforms, trousers for boys, skirts for girls, with the color of the their house and where the hell did you read or see a NAMETAG on their uniforms? I have a lot more stuff that I want to discuss but I really have to go now. Just think about the stuff I mentioned. ---Max(talk) 22:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Read the books. -- spacealientomorrow 22 April 2012 (EST)
Harry Potter was not a commander at this battle. He did not give orders or lead troops. He just showed up at the castle in need of time to search for the diadem, and the battle was hastily arranged by others to buy the time he needed. I will remove it after a while if nobody has any objections. Jaimeastorga2000 (talk) 21:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Some editors have been sparring over "Enrollment" vs "Enrolment", citing the MoS National varieties of English section. This debate seems to date from 2006 (see British spelling, above). Quite apart from the spelling, "Enrolment" is a doubtful title in this context: the section is talking about the school's admissions procedure but in British educational usage "Enrolment" often means parents' applications for places (google.co.uk search). For example, Filch's parents could have enrolled their little darling at Hogwarts, but the school would not have admitted him as a student. The MoS also says that editors should try to find words that are common to all varieties of English (see Opportunities for commonality). In that spirit I've changed the section title to "Admission", which apparently has the same meaning and spelling on both sides of the Atlantic and in South Africa, Australia, New Zealand etc. - Pointillist (talk) 09:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Tom Riddle was a half-blood. Perhaps this should be mentioned for historical reasons so as to confirm that the sorting hat has not always placed pure bloods into Slytherin house. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshuagay (talk • contribs) 20:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
The article claims that Hogwarts was established "c. 10th century". Whence was this information found? It ought to be referenced. Fouls (talk) 19:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
The article says Peeves destroyed it, after being persuaded by Nearly Headless Nick. I don't recall this - I thought it was destroyed when Montague inexpertly Apparated out of it after being trapped inside by the twins? Dbutler1986 (talk) 19:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't have the time to go through the entire article changing it to British (or American, for that matter) but since it is a British book by a British author I've changed a couple of sentences to say Philosopher's Stone not Sorcerors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prokhorovka (talk • contribs) 12:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I edited this page a little bit. In the most recent Rowling publication (Tales of The Beetlebard), it states McGonagall takes over as Headmistress of Hogwarts. I didn't do it right so if someone could help me out here?
173.29.159.168 (talk) 16:40, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Sorry if this sounds a bit snappy, it's not ment to be, but i don't think the Grim lives in the Forbidden Forest. Even if we do assume the Grim to be real (in the harry potter series, not in real life), I still remember that it was in fact Sirius Black who was hiding in the Forest, in his dog form. This does get confusing as several times Harry saw Sirius and thought it was the Grim. If some-one agrees with me on this, d'you think you can change it, as I don't want to do it myself incase i am wrong. Thank you Lord loss210 (talk) 21:58, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
At the Hogwars page is says: " According to Albus Dumbledore there is a hidden swimming pool located somewhere on the grounds". very amusing... I didn't erase it all together because I'm and new(and I may be wrong?), but I added a "citation needed". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.196.107 (talk) 20:40, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
harry potter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.129.218.83 (talk) 10:16, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
"The entrance is found behind a still life painting somewhere near the kitchens..." This painting is the entrance to the kitchens. Either Fred or George (don't remember which one) tells them to tickle the pear...thats how they find dobby in the kitchen :) 121.159.143.124 (talk) 13:30, 10 March 2010 (UTC)(4th book i believe)
I have changed the incorrect information given under Hufflepuff. Though the common room is near the kitchens, it is not behind a painting, nor does it require a password. -- spacealientomorrow 22 April 2012 (EST)
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On this page, loyalty is listed as a Gryffindor trait. In fact, it is NEVER stated in the books that loyalty is a Gryffindor trait. There are also many examples of disloyal Gryffindors. The idea of loyalty being a Gryffindor trait is a fan invention and was never stated in any of the books or movies. Loyalty IS a Hufflepuff trait (I see that's already mentioned under Hufflepuff...and that's is another point, why would two houses share the same specific trait?) The word "loyalty" should be deleted from the Gryffindor section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.227.250 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 29 March 2010
Also, honesty, patience and a sense of justice are named as Hufflepuff traits in the books, but those traits aren't listed under Hufflepuff on this page. Please add "honesty, patience and a sense of justice" to the list of Hufflepuff traits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.227.250 (talk • contribs) 17:39, 29 March 2010
Not done: Welcome. For each of these requests, you need to supply a reliable source. Assuming that is one of the Harry Potter books in each case, just specify which book and page numbers. Clearly for the second request, that would be the page which lists those three traits. For the first request, it should be a page which lists the Gryffindor traits, showing that loyalty is not among those traits. Read cite book to see what information is needed. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 18:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I have edited the values under these two houses. Though loyalty is a popular trait among Gryffindors, it is never stated to be a trait or value to be a Gryffindor. As for Hufflepuff, the traits were changed to be more accurate.
HP1 Sorting Hat song:
You might belong in Gryffindor, Where dwell the brave at heart, Their daring, nerve, and chivalry Set Gryffindors apart;
You might belong in Hufflepuff, Where they are just and loyal, Those patient Hufflepuffs are true And unafraid of toil;
-- spacealientomorrow 22 April 2012 (EST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spacealientomorrow (talk • contribs)
She's not mentioned once in the wee side bit about headmasters, though she does become head for a short period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luca01324 (talk • contribs) 08:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
the argentina 4rt1cl3? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brasil 2000 (talk • contribs) 21:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
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The text refers to a "pig" on a desk. This seems not relevant enough to link but if linked then I suggest linking to Domestic pig (change [[pig]] to [[Domestic pig|pig]]); surely it was not a Wild pig. If the scene is in a movie perhaps someone could identify the breed of pig? 69.3.72.249 (talk) 01:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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The word "enrollment" is misspelled. There are two L's
Americangirl2187 (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Ireland should be removed from the intro as the quote is not even a direct quote from JKR, I believe. Even if it were a direct quote, this should not be seen as cannon, in the same way that the Dumbledore article does not describe him as gay, simply because JKR stated so in an interview. It has been made clear in the book that not every country has its own wizarding school hence the need for wizards for foreign countries to join other schools. If somebody could edit it for me as I cannot.Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.49.44.152 (talk) 12:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
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The second paragraph refers to the origins of the name Hogwarts. An addition is that "Hogwart" was the first of many misnomers given to the character Hoggle by Jennifer Connelly's character Sarah in the 1986 movie Labyrinth.
Thejewosh (talk) 07:29, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Not done: That has nothing to do with the subject of this article. Per WP:TRIVIA, we don't add random trivia to articles in almost all cases. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't the article's main picture be the most famous shot of Hogwarts (as depicted in the film)?
http://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://hpland.altervista.org/hogwarts1a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hpland.altervista.org/index2.php%3Fhp%3Dlu&usg=__rLyXDcz6iksMskKDntmumAoaq4Q=&h=600&w=800&sz=63&hl=it&start=0&sig2=NxzvCExYbUJKhMUeIqwPWA&zoom=1&tbnid=JUpZPcrr7wBYnM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=185&ei=89JyTcXpHMmKswar15WIDg&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHogwarts%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dit%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D596%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=324&vpy=116&dur=2568&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=135&ty=110&oei=89JyTcXpHMmKswar15WIDg&page=1&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.13.28.25 (talk) 00:22, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
((edit semi-protected)) Regarding an error in the article "Hogwarts" in the section "Hogwarts Express": The model of the Hogwarts Express train made by Lionel Trains is O27 gauge, not O gauge as the article now reads. This fact is verifiable by Lionel Trains corporation, and I personally own one of these train sets.
It now reads: "Lionel has released an O gauge set in their 2007 catalogue and a G gauge set for 2008."
It should read: "Lionel has released an O27 gauge set in their 2007 catalogue and a G gauge set for 2008."
Wsboyette (talk) 07:10, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
This article begins with the statement: "It is a fictional boarding school of magic for witches and wizards between the ages of eleven and seventeen." This is wrong. Hogwarts is a seven year institution not a six year one.
It's basic math. If you start School at age eleven and attend for seven years then you finish at age eighteen (11+7=18). Just because Harry chose not to attend his final year and left doesn't mean Hogwarts wasn't teaching. Submitted April 29, 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.3.24.30 (talk) 14:09, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
What is the source for the rendering of Coat of Arms here? I have looked for other sources, and there seems to be an inconsistency with the lion either being Or or Argent, is there a blazon in the book, or a depiction from the movies? 71.194.44.209 (talk) 22:49, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
The word 'cunning' is perjorative and would not form part of an aspirational statement. Should be replaced by 'shrewdness' and inserted after 'leadership', and probably after 'resourcefulness'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.178.235 (talk) 12:09, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
The thing is that "cunning" is a word that is actually used in the books, by the sorting hat. And I'm not sure "cunning" is pejorative. I would however request to remove the "most of all" before purity of blood. That's not true, it might be one cultural aspect of the house, but it's not an attribute of character that makes you sorted into that house. It is pejorative to use only carater traits for the other houses and then write that this house values most of all a "genetic" trait, which is not the case (half bloods have been put in Slytherin, so it cannot be the most valued trait.). "most of all" should be removed. Or replaced by: "The members of the house highly value "purity of blood" and consider that an essential trait making them superior to the other students" for example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.57.67.241 (talk) 10:46, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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Could you replace the image and the thumbnail representing hogwarts' coat of arms with a more accurate version that is closer in description to the one that can be found as an illustration in some versions of the books. image links in commons: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Hogwarts_coat_of_arms_color.svg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hogwarts_coat_of_arms_color.svg
Jakovche (talk) 14:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I believe the current SVG coat of arms for Hogwarts is not accurate enough in its representation.Here is a preview of the version i find more accurate.
I have also uploaded an alternative version with added shading effects, although I'm not sure shading is appropriate for heraldic symbols.
Anyway, here's a preview of the original and the shaded version:
Consider both pictures, and feel free to comment.
If anyone got confused by the crosshatching lines, their colors along with the background colors should represent color patterns of each Hogwarts house:)
In the introduction, it says "for witches and wizards between the ages of eleven and seventeen". Then in the School location and information section it says "taking children from ages eleven to eighteen". The Cake 2 (talk) 16:43, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
I've found a source that clarifies this and added it: I've said that it is eleven to seventeen throughout the article. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:06, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Is enrolement compulsory then? Can it be turned down? 92.20.169.134 (talk) 18:29, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Students do not have to go to Hogwarts. Draco even mentioned in HP4 that he may have gone to Durmstrang, but his mother thought it was too far away. It was going to be required by Voldemort when he took over, but he obviously died before he could make that happen. -- spacealientomorrow 22 April 2012 (EST)
Regarding File:Hogwarts_coat_of_arms_colored_with_shading.svg used in the Houses section: The image is on Commons and the author says 'their' is released work under CC-A-SA-3.0. Isn't the Hogwarts coat of arms under copyright? which would make that picture an infringement? Diego_pmc Talk 07:46, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Is there a 'historical' Hogwart that the institution was named after? If not, is there any information on how it got it's name? Pdarley (talk) 17:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
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As you can see, your information says the mascot of Ravenclaw is an eagle. Where it clearly is a raven.
Dogfreak594 (talk) 23:37, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Turning the envelope over, his hand trembling, Harry saw a purple wax seal bearing a coat of arms; a lion, an eagle, a badger, and a snake surrounding a large letter H.
The mascot of Ravenclaw is not a raven, any more than the mascot of Slytherin is a slyther, or the mascot of Gryffindor a griffin, or of Hufflepuff a huffle Darkkelf99 (talk) 08:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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The article states that slytherin house values "most of all, pure wizard blood". This seems to be contradicted by the epilogue of the series, where Harry Potter tells his son that it is ok to get chosen as a Slytherin. The concept of pure wizard blood was championed by the most evil wizards in the series, namely Voldemort and his ancestor Salazar Slytherin. It is the antithesis of everything the "good guys", including Dumbledore, Harry, Sirius, and the rest, value, something stated and emphasized many times throughout the books. This is in fact one of the central themes of the series.
If Harry Potter, a symbol of good in the books, told his own son that it is ok to be in slytherin, it is impossible that the highest value of slytherin house was the evil concept of "pure wizard blood". Yes, it was a value of its founder, and it led to the creation of the sinister chamber of secrets. Yes, it is a value held by many of slytherin house (malfoy and his cohorts prominent among them). But it cannot be the highest value, or even a value at all, of Slytherin House, in light of what is said in the epilogue. And it isn't because the house of slytherin changed after the defeat of Voldemort, because Harry's proof that not all Slytherins are bad is from Severus Snape, who was sorted long before voldemort's demise.
There are no references cited here, and i think that i am going to change it. Cheers
I see that this page is protected. So i ask you to remove the statement "and most of all, pure wizard blood" because it is incorrect. Harry Potter would not advise his son to be evil and embrace the twisted values of Voldemort.
Darkkelf99 (talk) 06:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks to the anonymous administrator who did the edit Darkkelf99 (talk) 19:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Also, Voldemort was a half-blood but he was in Slytherin!
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24.98.242.53 (talk) 00:33, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
Not done
I changed it before reading this, and Pottermore was given as a reference above. JKR herself wrote that and now Pottermore is open to everyone, anyone to be Sorted into Hufflepuff can see it, and it's probably elsewhere on Google. Not adding it and giving the wrong information is not okay.
"What else do you need to know? Oh yes, the entrance to the common room is concealed in a stack of large barrels in a nook on the right hand side of the kitchen corridor. Tap the barrel two from the bottom, middle of the second row, in the rhythm of ‘Helga Hufflepuff’, and the lid will swing open. We are the only house at Hogwarts that also has a repelling device for would-be intruders. If the wrong lid is tapped, or if the rhythm of the tapping is wrong, the illegal entrant is doused in vinegar."
Done -- spacealientomorrow 22 April 2012 (EST)
New request: in the Defense Against the Dark Arts section, it should say that no DADA teacher has stayed AT THAT POST for more than a year (during the series). Snape, while DADA for only a year, of course remains at the school for the year following his term as DADA instructor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.151.15.210 (talk) 15:43, 21 October 2011 (UTC)