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Is there any reason why this shouldn't be at Interfaith? Camelcase is hideous. --Pyroclastic 02:45, August 15, 2005 (UTC) I believe that the title of this page should be spelt 'Interfaith Dialogue' not 'Interfaith Dialog' Sfuqua 03:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC) - Agreed. It also seems that the history of the interfaith movement needs more discussion, and interfaith with respect to other religions should be moved into separate pages. Sikhism is important to the interfaith movement, certainly, but should not be the dominant part of the page. Any thoughts before this is changed?
See my comments elsewhere - this page, Interreligious relations and Ecumenism could be rearranged/merged etc. Jackiespeel 21:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I merged Interfaith dialogue here. Please see Talk:Interfaith dialogue for old talk. Sam Spade 15:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
This article should be moved to Interfaith dialogue or Inter-religious dialogue, much more common terms than "InterFaith". — goethean ॐ 17:34, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
The first term of the above loops back to this page. Jackiespeel 21:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I do not feel that Ecumenism should be merged here, though cross references are certainly welcome. My understanding and experience of Ecumenism is it is a term used primarily (only?) within Christianity and it refers to encouraged combined events for Christians of different labels. So, an Ecumenical service may include Lutherans, Baptists and Roman Catholics but it would probably not include Hindus, Jews, Sikhs, Muslims, etc. An interfaith service would include and welcome people from all of the above and all referenced on our main article. Just my two cents. Keesiewonder 12:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
The layout adopted in syncretism might be appropriate for this topic (or whichever of this group survives). Jackiespeel 22:38, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I changed the first paragraph reference to 1962 and removed the reference to John XXIII: while John XXIII inaugurated Vatican II in 1962, the Declaration on the Church's Relations to Non-Christian Religions (aka Nostra Aetate) was not approved and issued until the last session of the Council in 1965, under Paul VI. I also removed the bit about Vatican II disappointing traditionalists and Mel Gibson -- while this is true, this seems to veer off into the strictly-Catholic category, and I don't know that it belongs in the first paragraph of the "interfaith" entry. Makrina 02:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I think it's better to use Muslims than "we" in the text of the page.
Could a comment on interfaith be put on Religion and politics - for example how the state handles various religions. Jackiespeel 21:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
And could the title be expanded to include inter religious relations, as that article has been incorporated here?
Another area to put on the theoretical "University of Wikipedia Postdoctoral Research Projects" list (all those topics you wish *someone* would pursue, and produce a brilliant article on for Wikipedia (g).
Jackiespeel 11:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Please note: On 20 November 2006, I tried to organize our ideas into sections if they had migrated all over the talk page. It appears to me that Jackiespeel nicely raised the topic of title expansion and at some subsequent date, someone else not involved with the discussion, submitted a page rename request in such a way that the Wiki Gods did not allow it to go through. Keesiewonder 12:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
And could the title be expanded to include inter religious relations, as that article has been incorporated here? Jackiespeel 11:56, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
It was requested that this article be renamed but the procedure outlined at WP:RM#How to request a page move did not appear to be followed, and consensus could not be determined. Please request a move again with proper procedure if there is still a desire for the page to be moved. Thank you for time!
Whilst I think that genuine inter-faith work is valuable, it seems to me that a number of people parade around as "interfaith ministers", even presuming to call themselves "reverend", whilst really being little more than jumped-up new-agers more interested in psychobabble and astrology than anything else, and with absolutely no knowledge at all of any of the world's bona fide religions. Is it worth mentioning this? Ros Power 22:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
"Muslims understand themselves accept all Prophets and Books sent to different peoples throughout history, and regard belief in them as an essential principle of being Muslim. A Muslim is a true follower of Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus, and all other Prophets, upon them be peace. Not believing in one Prophet or Book means that one is not a Muslim. Thus we acknowledge the oneness and basic unity of religion, which is a symphony of God’s blessings and mercy, and the universality of belief in religion. So, religion is a system of belief that embraces all races and all beliefs, a road that brings everyone together in brotherhood."
While a beautiful declaration, this paragraph is just that, a declaration, rather than espousing facts. It's written in the first person plural, includes a religious overture to the Prophets, and sounds like the transcription of a spoken opinion. The neutrality is somewhat dissolved compared to the other sections, which try to state objective facts.
The other two paragraphs in the Islam section are better written, but need some prolix cleanup. I'd suggest editing this one, finding a source citation (it sounds like a quotation), or erasing it. AtenRa 12:03, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
-It looks like it was written by a Muslim who was trying to defend his religion against accusations of violence. Farae 03:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Maybe some reorganization is in store? A glance at the opening to the Interfaith article could lead someone to think that Pearl S. Buck was a Sikh. I don't think this was true, though she certainly displays great sensitivity and interfaith appreciation. Thoughts? Keesiewonder 19:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
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The Judaism section is heavily biased agianst Orthodoxy. There are plenty of Orthodox Rabbis involved in interfaith dialogue with Christians in the United States. This article only lists the opinions of the Haredi camp and not the Modern Orthodox. Furthermore this article is not the place to discuss the internal issues of Judaism (...Reform Judaism and Conservative Judaism, which are regarded by Orthodox Jews as deviating from Jewish tradition.)
I agree and just rewrote the section. Please feel free to add your thoughts.129.2.203.195 04:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I think you should change the wording of the part where you say muslims "claim" to believe in moses , jesus etc. I understand what you are saying but as it is documented in their holy book that they do believe in them I think you should omit the word claim.
I have removed most of the sections describing individual religions. There seems to be a common confusion that examples of being tolerant to members of other religions is enough to be included in this article. This is an article about interfaith dialog. The article needs to contain properly sourced descriptions of dialog between religions. I also found several examples of blatant original research in the article. Please do add information to the article, but only if you can cite reliable sources for what you add. Thanks, Gwernol 01:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Namaste. Does anyone know if there is any interfaith project on Wikipedia? In editing articles on Hinduism I have begun wondering how to get more multifaith readers to check for POV issues and basic comprehensibility of articles that often raise cross-cultural issues. Buddhipriya 02:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
unless we provide sources for this this section must be revised. Modern times have shown us something very different from what is described here. Saksjn (talk) 13:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC).
The article should maybe mention the notion of Interfaith as connected to Regnocentrism, that is, the idea that the collaboration of religions is supposed to herald the Kingdom of God on Earth at a much faster speed. [1] ADM (talk) 04:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
An external link I added to this article was deleted for -- I believe -- conflict of interest (COI) issues. I would like to re-add it and explain why I think there is no conflict of interest.
The link I added (http://interfaith.issuelab.org/research) is for a website which houses a collection of research on Interfaith Organizing. The website belongs to a nonprofit organization called IssueLab whose purpose is to collect and archive research produced by nonprofits and university-based research centers. The link does not go to IssueLab's home page or any sort of promotional or donations page. It goes directly to the collection on Interfaith Organizing -- an actual list of research documents. The research was not written or sponsored by IssueLab and we do not benefit financially from an increase in the number of people who view the research. We are a non-profit-seeking organization by definition. Like Wikipedia, IssueLab is a neutral resource; we do not espouse any political views and we include in our archive research produced by a large variety of organizations. The link was added in the spirit of expanding knowledge, what Wikipedia is all about. One of IssueLab's guiding principles is to encourage sharing of and free access to information. Along with the link I included the description "Nonprofit Research Collection on Interfaith Organizing" so as to make it clear what the link led to. I assure you I was not trying to mislead anyone or promote any sort of commercial website. I was simply trying to offer an additional resource for those who might be interested. I apologize if I appeared to be breaking the rules, but after carefully reading Wikipedia's guidelines on External Links and Conflicts of Interest, I truly believe that I am not.
From Wikipedia's section on External Links: "Some acceptable links include those that contain further research that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail, or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy."
IssueLab's Interfaith collection contains "further research that is accurate and on-topic" and "could not be added to the article for reasons such as...amount of detail."
External Links also includes guidelines on "Links Normally to be Avoided": "Links mainly to promote a website. Links to web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services, or to web pages with objectionable amounts of advertising. Links to sites that require payment or registration to view the relevant content."
The link was added to promote the research, not to promote the website or to sell anything. The site does not require payment or registration.
From the section on Conflicts of Interest: "A Wikipedia conflict of interest (COI) is an incompatibility between the aim of Wikipedia, which is to produce a neutral, reliably sourced encyclopedia, and the aims of an individual editor.
"COI editing involves contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote your own interests or those of other individuals, companies, or groups. Where advancing outside interests is more important to an editor than advancing the aims of Wikipedia, that editor stands in a conflict of interest."
The aim of IssueLab is to offer another "neutral, reliably sourced" resource. "[A]dvancing outside interests" is not more important to us than "advancing the aims of Wikipedia," which are strongly in line with those of IssueLab.
Finally, other external links for this article go to nonprofit organizations and to the website of a journal. My added link fits right in with these.
I hope I've explained the situation clearly and I hope you won't object to my re-inserting the external link. My apologies for the length of this entry.
IssuesRUs (talk) 16:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
While a previous posting makes reference to the concept of "interfaith ministers" as illegitimate providers of spiritual care, it is important to recognize that Interfaith is now taking on its own identity as a path for human souls to take. In 2009, the Order of Universal Interfaith (OUnI) was created to provide the ecclesiastic base for those who express their spirituality unbound by cultural, ethnic and religious ties and formal boundaries still found in modern religions. Since 1987 when The New Seminary in New York City, NY began to grant the title of "interfaith minister" over 3,000 individuals from around the world have claimed the title as their own. Other seminaries have started since then including the One Spirit Learning Alliance and Interfaith Seminary, Chaplaincy Institute of Arts and Interfaith Ministries, Chaplaincy Institute of Maine, iNtuitive Times Institute (Canada), and the Interfaith Foundation (UK). With the creation of OUnI, the path took on a more professional and ecclesiastical organization--many of the pledgers to The Order have M.Div and D.Min. and Ph.Ds from accredited universities in addition to their own interfaith seminary experiences. OUnI has published its own Statement of Faith which includes the concept of Universal Interfaith--that clergy should serve a soul according to its path, not the path of the cleric doing the service. Many members of OUnI serve the world as chaplains in hospitals, hospices and other institutions. The Association of Professional Chaplains has allowed "interfaith" to be considered a path of spiritual endorsement. The first goal of OUnI was organize over 200 "interfaith congregations" that bring people of different faith paths together to create and share spiritual community. Each congregation has its own "flavor" based on the membership of that body. In March 2009, the Council of Interfaith Congregations of the United States (CIC-USA) was chartered in Washington, DC. This council has created its own Declaration of Principles to guide community building, worship, service and education for the interfaith community. The World Council of Interfaith Congregations (WCIC) began in March 2010.
In January 2010, OUnI joined with InterSpiritual Dialogue 'n Action (ISDnA) to co-create the Universal Order of Sannyasa as articulated by the late Br. Dr. Wayne Teasdale in his 1999 book, The Mystic Heart. While not an ecclesiastic body, it does move interspirituality into the realm of valid spiritual practice. Interfaithmonk (talk) 22:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
A Practical Reference to Religious Diversity for Operational Police and Emergency Services, though it's also being discussed for deletion for lack of notability. Share your thoughts? Smkolins (talk) 17:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
It seems like this article mostly focuses on monotheisms. There are subheaders for Christianity, Bahá'í, Judaism, Islam, and Zoroastrianism. I'd like to see more mention of how atheist, polytheist, and unitarian groups are incorporated into interfaith dialogues. samwaltz (talk) 17:36, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Sentence removed from opening lines, "There is a view that the history of religion shows conflict has been more the state of affairs than dialogue." It is not cited, probably not true, and does not say who holds such a view anyway. Daniel De Mol (talk) 21:15, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
gf edit moved from article: —MistyMorn (talk) 13:35, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Interfaith Churches have been appearing in many locations as a pluralistic alternative to more established organised religions. These do not always incorporate the words church or temple but provide many of the same support services that are accepted as those offered by established church and temple groups. The main commonality between these organisations is the acceptance that all deistic belief is acceptable and that each belief is a facet of the same source, that of a creator deity that is often beyond simple human comprehension. Some examples of Interfaith Churches and Temples include:
The name of the article is "Interfaith dialog", but in the text (particularly the opening sentence), it's referred to as Interfaith dialogue. I'm not sure which one should be used, as the "ue" seems to be more a matter of preference than region, but I'm assuming they should at least be consistent with each other. 8ty3hree (talk) 05:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Has to be edited, it is spelt 'Dialogue', not 'Dialog'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.147.194 (talk) 07:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
The Islam section reads:
"Islam has long encouraged dialogue to reach truth (and not interfaith dialogue which seeks to find common between people and leave differences aside). Islam also stressed that the supreme law of the land should be Islam and that Islam regulates all life affairs and therefore regulates how non Muslim and Muslims live under an Islamic state, with historical examples coming from Muslim Spain, Mughal India, and even starting as far back as Muhammad's time, where people of the Abrahamic Faiths lived in harmony."
Uh...what? In a hypothetical situation where Islam is supreme law of a certain land, how can the faiths of that land live in "harmony" if the Muslims enforce their "supreme law" through belligerence and coercion? How can "harmony" exist under the rule of a religion that advocates death for apostasy? Wouldn't "harmony" between the faiths only exist in a religious plutocracy wherein all faiths are equal? I doubt very much that Christians who are burned alive in Pakistan feel as though they are living alongside "harmonious" people. This paragraph makes it sound like the premise of Islam is that God has picked his favorites (the Muslims) and pitted them against the Christians and Jews in some kind of sadistic chess match. Can we clean up this section by getting rid of this paternalistic, outmoded garbage? Just sayin'.Secular Gentile (talk) 00:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Simply "Interfaith" redirects here, however I was actually looking for Interfaith Marriage. I think that there should either be a disambiguation or a note. What do you think? Vulpecular (talk) 11:39, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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