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When calculating what was the Christmas number one, bear in mind that the week ending date (used by many reference books etc) is not the same as the date the chart was released (Tuesdays until October 1987, Sundays after that). The latter should be used in determining what was number one on Christmas Day. Usually it doesn't make any difference, but on a few occasions it does. I've listed them here, should you be sad enough to want to know:
1980: St Winifred's School Choir: reached number one in chart week ending 27 Dec, actual date reached number one 23 Dec
1985: Shakin' Stevens: reached number one in chart week ending 28 Dec, actual date reached number one 24 Dec
1986: Jackie Wilson: reached number one in chart week ending 27 Dec, actual date reached number one 23 Dec
1990: Cliff Richard: reached number one in chart week ending 29 Dec, actual date reached number one 23 Dec
Additionally, in 2005 Shayne Ward's That's My Goal wasn't confirmed as the Christmas number one until the new Top 40 was unveiled on Christmas Day. So arguably for most of the day it was still Nizlopi at number one. It depends how pedantic you want to be about it! MFlet1 12:29, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
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I Have to agree somehow, that the list above is the correct xmas no1, even totp and VH1 has All those 4 as the Xmas no 1. Shakin stevens was the 1985 XMas no1.
if you can Complain at VH1, TOPT and other music channel then please do, but you will lose there have the 4 above list as the xmas ones. I dare say wiki will not agree and continual to be the only place one web to be wrong, so much for the clean up campaign to have the correct infomration.
Tradionally to Modern times the christmas charts is a week early and not as accurate as it should be as the data of sales & Units is taking before the 1st Day Of Christmas which is the 25th December and does not contain any traces of christmas Week or the big Day, just becuase of the week ending, it valid, but it should be after Christmas Day the Christmas Charts not before.
As stated above, Shakin' Stevens was OFFICIALLY Christmas #1 in 1985 with Merry Christmas Everyone, the wiki article is erroneous. A further example is http://www.everyhit.com/christmasnumber1.html Quote - "A technical note; the Christmas Number One does not always synchronise with the dates elsewhere as they refer to 'week ending' chart dates. These are the real Christmas Number Ones". The wiki article is bogus and should be ammended (i dont have enough posts to do so). —Preceding unsigned comment added by AaronTownsend (talk • contribs) 10:09, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
This must be someone's idea of a joke- Wikipedia can't announce the holder of the Christmas Number One three weeks, or a whole year before the charts are published. If no-one has any arguments, I can change this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.175.7 (talk) 03:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Why does this list weeks at No.1? This isn't important, it's to do with what was No.1 for the single week of Christmas - or specifically Christmas Day.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 19:52, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Its used alot within the industry to compare number ones.(82.8.216.208 (talk) 21:09, 19 December 2009 (UTC))
The opening section says "Christmas number one singles are those that are at the top of the UK Singles Chart on the nearest Sunday after Christmas."
Shouldn't this say "nearest Sunday before Christmas"? In fact, and to prevent any ambiguity, shouldn't it say "on the Sunday before Christmas Day"? ~~ Peteb16 (talk) 18:54, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Note that the Hallelujah link is stale, due to a rewording on the target page, can this be changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.169.227 (talk) 17:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
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Its SEEM wiki has MAJOR ERROR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry_Christmas_Everyone
That was the xmas one in the UK, yet it list as WHITNEY WHO? even Totp had it was xmas no1,
please get it right, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.204.127.90 (talk) 22:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
As stated above, Shakin' Stevens was OFFICIALLY Christmas #1 in 1985 with Merry Christmas Everyone, the wiki article is erroneous. A further example is http://www.everyhit.com/christmasnumber1.html Quote - "A technical note; the Christmas Number One does not always synchronise with the dates elsewhere as they refer to 'week ending' chart dates. These are the real Christmas Number Ones". To echo what another user said - "When calculating what was the Christmas number one, bear in mind that the week ending date (used by many reference books etc) is not the same as the date the chart was released (Tuesdays until October 1987, Sundays after that)".
The wiki article List of Christmas number one singles (UK) is bogus, Houston was not #1 Christmas '85, and should be corrected (i dont have enough posts to do so).AaronTownsend (talk • contribs) 10:09, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Is the christmas number one that big a deal outside the UK? There's still potential for an article about this phenomenon from a purely UK perspective (and separate from the UK singles chart article, but if it's not that significant outside the UK, then probably not at this heading. (Also, if it's not a big deal elsewhere, then the List of christmas number ones is redundant). Bonalaw 09:45, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I don't see why there's two articles. List of Christmas number one singles should be merged in here. Mintguy (T)
Should we also have a list of US Christmas No. 1 hits? (AndrewAnorak (talk) 16:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC))
We could mention perhaps the fact that in recent years Christmas no 1s have rarely actually mentioned Christmas? Morwen - Talk 01:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Just thought it might be an idea to make a point that programmes such as the xfactor etc are gurranteeded as christmas number one on the back of the shows publicity. This has taken the enjoyment out of the guessing game and leaves other records with little or no chance of getting the festive top spot (82.2.126.224 10:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC))
Someone added a sentence to say that some singles which are popularly believed to be Christmas number one were not, amongst others "Merry Christmas Everyone" by Shakin' Stevens and "Reet Petite" by Jackie Wilson. This is incorrect.
Bear in mind that many reference books etc use the week-ending date of the chart which is not the date the chart was actually released. For example the Shakin' Stevens record is often listed as having reached number one on 28 Dec 1985, but in fact that chart was released on Christmas Eve, meaning it was the Christmas number one. MFlet1 09:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
What is it with you americans with your fetish for punctuation? Is 'Christmas number-one single' valid grammatically? No. You act as if 'number' and 'one' can't stand independently. Really, you're bastardising a nice language. Why don't you all go and start speaking SPANISH instead?
Sadly it's not just an American thing: you'll find similar abominations widespread in British journalism nowadays.Contains Mild Peril (talk) 05:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
This article feels like a shell. It overlaps with List of Christmas number one singles (UK) and has less information; everything that matters in this article could easily be added to the opening paragraphs of List of Christmas number one singles (UK). I vote for deleting this article (complete with its odd "number-one" punctuation) and leaving List of Christmas number one singles (UK). -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 16:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Its SEEM wiki has MAJOR ERROR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merry_Christmas_Everyone
That was the xmas one in the UK, yet it list as WHITNEY WHO? even Totp had it was xmas no1,
please get it right, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.204.127.90 (talk) 22:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
As stated above, Shakin' Stevens was OFFICIALLY Christmas #1 in 1985 with Merry Christmas Everyone, the wiki article is erroneous. A further example is http://www.everyhit.com/christmasnumber1.html Quote - "A technical note; the Christmas Number One does not always synchronise with the dates elsewhere as they refer to 'week ending' chart dates. These are the real Christmas Number Ones". To echo what another user said - "When calculating what was the Christmas number one, bear in mind that the week ending date (used by many reference books etc) is not the same as the date the chart was released (Tuesdays until October 1987, Sundays after that)".
The wiki article List of Christmas number one singles (UK) is bogus, Houston was not #1 Christmas '85, and should be corrected (i dont have enough posts to do so).AaronTownsend (talk • contribs) 10:09, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Is the christmas number one that big a deal outside the UK? There's still potential for an article about this phenomenon from a purely UK perspective (and separate from the UK singles chart article, but if it's not that significant outside the UK, then probably not at this heading. (Also, if it's not a big deal elsewhere, then the List of christmas number ones is redundant). Bonalaw 09:45, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I don't see why there's two articles. List of Christmas number one singles should be merged in here. Mintguy (T)
Should we also have a list of US Christmas No. 1 hits? (AndrewAnorak (talk) 16:08, 27 December 2007 (UTC))
We could mention perhaps the fact that in recent years Christmas no 1s have rarely actually mentioned Christmas? Morwen - Talk 01:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Just thought it might be an idea to make a point that programmes such as the xfactor etc are gurranteeded as christmas number one on the back of the shows publicity. This has taken the enjoyment out of the guessing game and leaves other records with little or no chance of getting the festive top spot (82.2.126.224 10:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC))
Someone added a sentence to say that some singles which are popularly believed to be Christmas number one were not, amongst others "Merry Christmas Everyone" by Shakin' Stevens and "Reet Petite" by Jackie Wilson. This is incorrect.
Bear in mind that many reference books etc use the week-ending date of the chart which is not the date the chart was actually released. For example the Shakin' Stevens record is often listed as having reached number one on 28 Dec 1985, but in fact that chart was released on Christmas Eve, meaning it was the Christmas number one. MFlet1 09:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
What is it with you americans with your fetish for punctuation? Is 'Christmas number-one single' valid grammatically? No. You act as if 'number' and 'one' can't stand independently. Really, you're bastardising a nice language. Why don't you all go and start speaking SPANISH instead?
Sadly it's not just an American thing: you'll find similar abominations widespread in British journalism nowadays.Contains Mild Peril (talk) 05:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
This article feels like a shell. It overlaps with List of Christmas number one singles (UK) and has less information; everything that matters in this article could easily be added to the opening paragraphs of List of Christmas number one singles (UK). I vote for deleting this article (complete with its odd "number-one" punctuation) and leaving List of Christmas number one singles (UK). -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 16:21, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Could someone with an account please change "From 2005 to 2008, the winner of the talent competition..." to "From 2005 to 2008, the winners of the talent competition..." to pluralise "winner" 90.212.251.246 (talk) 19:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
We seem to have thumbnails of selected artists, presumably ones who's chart-topping is considered most notable. As there's space for one more, does the Wikipedia community think a picture of them, with a caption briefly explaining the extraordinary circumstances surrounding their grabbing the top spot? Quantum Burrito (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
As a U.S. resident who looked this up after hearing about the RATM thing, I think this page would benefit from some kind of explanation as to why the UK's number one single on Christmas is such a big deal. Is it some kind of tradition or something?
--Agreed, I came here looking for the same information and was disappointed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.155.129 (talk) 22:03, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes, agreed, why is this not explained? What's the point of an encyclopedia article if it doesn't even explain the topic? 173.178.252.161 (talk) 02:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Ya, someone who knows should update this article. I mean, what about Easter #1 singles or New Year's #1 singles? There must be some significance to being a "Christmas number one" that makes this encyclopedia worthy. I'm thinking of asking to have the whole article removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.99.251.171 (talk) 21:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Where's the list of #1 singles on Saint Swithun's Day? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dutchman Schultz (talk • contribs) 22:03, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I've added a little bit about why Christmas number 1 is perceived as important in the UK. Boleslaw (talk) 03:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)DB
This is pedantic I admit but the number of Christmas #1's that were actually the best selling song of the year is less than 10. Does this really qualify for "many of the Christmas Number ones"? (90.220.96.205 (talk) 02:59, 5 December 2010 (UTC))
I've never seen this film, but more than one previous editor has written that the Christmas Number 1 is a theme in this film, and the film is very popular, I think this information should be kept. I think it should be kept because, on the talk page, people have asked for information to show why the Christmas Number 1 is noteworthy. So I have reverted the removal of this information, and put it in a new section "Cultural references". Boleslaw (talk) 16:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)DB
What the hell has happened here? This article is about the Christmas No.1, but it seems to be cluttered with the Christmas No.2s as well! I see that the other article was merged but come on, this is ridiculous! The Christmas No.2 is hardly notable - and yet, here they all are given equal importance - perhaps I should just put the whole Christmas top 10? Some notable No.2s can perhaps be mentioned in a separate section afterwards (and the reason why), but they probably amount to about three.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 02:16, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
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Yes, that's much better. While we're about it though, can I ask if there's a reason for the total weeks at No.1 section? If this is about what was No.1 at Christmas, then surely only that particular week is significant in this article. Total weeks at No.1 for each of these songs is available elsewhere.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 23:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
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The source for the UK has always - to my knowledge - been Guiness's Hit Singles. I have the 16th edition with every number 1 from 14th November 1952 to 28th December 2002. Pages 30-42.
There are quite a few incorrect entries in the Wikipedia list.
Here are the corrections.
Note therefore that Spice Girls have never had a Christmas number 1. The only acceptable definition of a Christmas number 1 must be number 1 on Christmas Day. The Wiki entries have come from someone with an incorrect source. Guiness have always been known as the correct and official version on this subject. Their book says it is in association with "The official UK Charts Company".
I don't know how to edit this page but I would like to say ^^^ all this above about spice girls is all true here is the links as proof by the Offical charts company who are the ones who create the charts and I have even phoned them and they said that spice girls have never been Christmas no 1 1996 link http://www.officialcharts.com/all-the-number-ones-singles-list/_/1996/ 1997 link http://www.officialcharts.com/all-the-number-ones-singles-list/_/1997/ 1998 link http://www.officialcharts.com/all-the-number-ones-singles-list/_/1998/
Now can someone please change the spice girls as it frustrates me that they where never no 1 on christmas so please fix this — Preceding unsigned comment added by BryDeca (talk • contribs) 21:58, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
It is quite likely that some of the Wiki entries from 2003-2010 are also incorrect.
I will not update this for a few days. First I want to be sure that everyone is in agreement. If people are not in agreement then I think the above should be mentioned. Anyone with this book (or any other in the series) can easily check the Wiki entries against the printed version. When they see that Wiki has at least 10 errors it sinks the reputation of Wikipedia as a correct source.
This is the source of the correct info. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guinness-World-Records-British-Singles/dp/085112190X — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.237.19 (talk) 01:13, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
Similar to the discussion above (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_UK_Singles_Chart_Christmas_number_ones#Importance), can someone add some information in the article regarding the notability of this topic? Looking at the detail provided it seems that there is some significance to this, which I don't understand. Without an explanation, I would / will nominate this article for deletion. I agree with many of the comments provided previously, which I will paraphrase:
"Maybe, then, the Christmas number one is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy – an accolade to gain just to go down in history as the Christmas one. Or, more pessimistically, it is a time to cash in when people are spending more freely." Gfcvoice (talk) 15:19, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Once again as a few people have say'd the spice girls were never as @fox has said there are more than just this here is his list
Here are the corrections.
Note therefore that Spice Girls have never had a Christmas number 1. The only acceptable definition of a Christmas number 1 must be number 1 on Christmas Day. The Wiki entries have come from someone with an incorrect source. Guiness have always been known as the correct and official version on this subject. Their book says it is in association with "The official UK Charts Company".
and here is the link to The Official Charts Company page on all number one's ever as you may see there is no spice girls as christmas number one.
http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/all-the-number-1-singles__7931/
And I must also point out that the website everyhit.com can not be used as a reliable source as they don't run the charts, The Official Charts Company do, So I would assume anyone would realize that what they have on there website is right. I have emailed them to change it too.
I would also like to point out I have phoned them myself and they have told me that in order for it to be classed as Christmas number 1 it has to be on Christmas day or the Sunday before that. Not the Sunday after that would be classed as the last number one of the year. which the spice girls have had. Never on Christmas have they had a number one on Christmas.
And last point to all who are wondering the reason this is so important to anyone in Britain is that we love Christmas number ones, As they are usually charity singles. But that is my personal thought's, I don't know about the rest of the UK.
92.29.36.88 (talk) 11:07, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
In response to the concerns of the OP, I concur, at least with regard to the stats on the 2002 number one. This page on Everyhit states that Blue were number one on the week prior to Christmas Day, yet Everyhit's own Christmas list seems to contradict this. Concerned. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Plus as a last point, I shall repeat myself by saying that if this whole article is based off what newspapers, everyhit or websites that use them as a ref then this article is a big sham as The Official Charts Company are regulators of the charts they know who number 1 was.
Thanks.92.29.36.88 (talk) 14:48, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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Unless I am mistaken, there seems to be nothing about betting on the UK Christmas Number 1 in the history part of the article[1], which is one of the reasons why the UK Christmas Number 1 has become an such an institution in the UK (I suppose the fact that there was a Christmas TOTP and that Billboard didn't publish a chart around this time in America - the chart being 'frozen' and carried over for another week - is a reason why its more of a British tradition/craze than something Americans are bothered with). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.172.230 (talk) 12:49, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
The sockpuppet vandal who kept us busy around Christmas of 2020, with their obsessive and badly-written nonsense about the Christmas number one not being determined by sales on Christmas Day itself, seems to be making a comeback...though why they're thinking about it at this time of year is a bit of a puzzle. Mark and inwardly digest (talk) 22:17, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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