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"Minnesota Fats" was too misleading for Wanderone's article to have that name. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 02:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
The guideline Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)#Do not overdo it states clearly: "In cases where the common name of a subject is misleading, then it is sometimes reasonable to fall back on a well-accepted alternative. ... This does not mean that we should avoid using widely known pseudonyms like Mark Twain, Marilyn Monroe, Billy the Kid, or widely known common names of animals and other things. But it does mean that we need to temper common usage when the commonly used term is unreasonably misleading..."
, which is clearly the case here.
The matter has been taken up at both Wikipedia:Articles for deletion (in which the nominator suggested that the fictional character article be merged into the article on the novel and/or the film, and Wanderone's moved to Minnesota Fats), and at Wikipedia:Requested moves (where the nominator wanted to undo the move, which would have necessitated relocating the character's article to a disambiguated title, like "Minnesota Fats (fictional character)"). Consensus in both cases rejected these notions (directly, with a consensus against merging of the fictional character into the main article on the work, and indirectly by consensus not changing with regard to Wanderone's article).
Generating more noise (i.e. continued circular discussion with no new information or rationale that might change the current consensus) about how important it is (to whomever) that Wanderone's article be at Minnesota Fats is likely to be perceived as disruptive, as will any further forum shopping. That said, a move of the real player's article to Rudolph Wanderone is probably in order, as the disambiguating "Jr." isn't necessary here. Also, the Minnesota Fats (pool player) redirect now works.
— SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 18:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
"Ambiguous or inaccurate names for the article subject, as determined in reliable sources, are often avoided even though they may be more frequently used by reliable sources. Neutrality is also considered.... When there are multiple names for a subject, all of them fairly common, and the most common has problems, it is perfectly reasonable to choose one of the others."— SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ⚞(Ʌⱷ҅̆⚲͜ⱷ^)≼ 13:45, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I was under the impression that Minnesota Fats was the inspiration for "Fats Brown" in A Game of Pool. They certainly bear strong physical resemblance. If we can source this as true it should presumably go in the article. Anyone have any info about this? JoshuaZ (talk) 22:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Rudolf Wanderone#Name which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 00:29, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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