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The Greek text given in The Canons of the first four general councils of Nicæa, Constantinople, Ephesus and Chalcedon. Oxford: Clarendon Press. 1880. p. 5. has some discrepancies from the Greek text given in the article:
Article | Book (1880) |
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Πιστεύομεν εἰς ἕνα Κύριον Ἰησοῦν Χριστόν We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ |
Καὶ εἰς ἕνα Κύριον Ἰησοῦν Χριστόν And in one Lord Jesus Christ |
τά τε ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ καὶ τὰ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς both in heaven and upon earth |
τά τε ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ καὶ τὰ ἐν τῇ γῇ both in heaven and in earth |
καὶ ἀνελθόντα εἰς τοὺς οὐρανούς, and he ascended into heaven |
[] ἀνελθόντα εἰς τοὺς οὐρανούς, he ascended into heaven |
καὶ ἐρχόμενον κρῖναι ζῶντας καὶ νεκρούς and he will come to judge the living and the dead |
καὶ πάλιν ἐρχόμενον κρῖναι ζῶντας καὶ νεκρούς and he will come again to judge the living and the dead |
Καὶ εἰς τὸ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα and in the Holy Spirit |
Καὶ εἰς τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ Ἅγιον and in the Holy Spirit [different Greek wording] |
ἢ κτιστόν or [he was] wrought?? |
[not present] |
τούτους ἀναθεματίζει ἡ ἁγία καθολικὴ καὶ ἀποστολικὴ ἐκκλησία the holy catholic and apostolic church anathematizes them |
τούτους ἀναθεματίζει ἡ [] καθολικὴ καὶ ἀποστολικὴ ἐκκλησία the catholic and apostolic church anathematizes them |
I have no idea whether the article text, which appears to come from this website, represents a superior text, but it would be good to find out the reason for these discrepancies. Grover cleveland (talk) 07:18, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
Other translations of the Creed, to be found on Methodist and Anglican websites, do not capitalise "Catholic Church". Does the original Greek support this version of history? NeuralWarp (talk) 22:53, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
The article currently says "The Nicene Creed is the defining statement of belief of Nicene or mainstream Christianity and in those Christian denominations that adhere to it." I edited it to say "The Nicene Creed is the defining statement of belief of Nicene or mainstream Christianity (not to be confused with Mainline Protestantism, sometimes called Mainstream Protestantism) and in those Christian denominations that adhere to it." @Vif12vf: reverted my change. I asked why they reverted my edit, and they just said it was "unhelpful." I asked what was unhelpful about it, and after twelve days of no response, I reverted their revert. They then re-reverted my revert, and posted a "disruptive editing" warning on my talk page. When I asked why my edit was disruptive, they said "An explanation has already been given. Refrain from making that edit!" I understand that my revert was a mistake and could be seen as edit warring, but the reason for the original revert was never given. I asked on that thread why the original edit was problematic two days ago, and have not had a response.
@Vif12vf: what is problematic about adding the clarifying note to the article? 184.21.204.5 (talk) 01:26, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
This page lacks the link to the Italian equivalent, which is the article on Simbolo niceno-stantinopolitano, https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simbolo_niceno-costantinopolitano. I tried to add it, and got an obscure error message about another site on wikidata, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q13231188, already being linked to the Italian equivalent, and suggesting a merge but with no instructions about how to merge. I don't know enough to know why a wikipedia link would conflict with a wikidata link, and certainly not enough to know when or how to merge a wikipedia page with the wikidata equivalent.
If anyone wants to tackle this, please do!
FYI, the italian page links back to a subsection of this page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#Niceno-Constantinopolitan_Creed.
Esb (talk) 02:33, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
If the Filioque was not added until the sixth-century, how is the Filioque present in a text from the fourth century? I won’t edit it yet but I think the 381 nicean creed text here should be fixed 2A00:23EE:2878:2CBA:55B3:FB2D:E86:490 (talk) 11:27, 17 March 2024 (UTC)