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I'm not sure that saying the image can be obtained from the organization is enough. We need to provide "Proper attribution of the source of the material", which I take to mean the web address from which the image was obtained. Λυδαcιτγ 19:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Did something break in this template? It used to display perfectly fine, but now on images where it's been used, it's showing the NEEDS ARTICLE NAME information for images where the name has been used. See this for an example of what I'm talking about. Esrever 21:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
There is a proposal at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria/Proposal that would create a templated use rationale for logos. That proposal would, presumably, make this template obsolete by authorizing a replacement. Comments about that proposal would be very welcome; please put them on the talk page of the proposal, not here. Assuming the proposal is accepted we'll probably deprecate it at some point and ask people not to use it anymore. Existing uses might be left alone or converted automatically to the new format, which will probably be simpler and easier to use. Wikidemo 01:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd recommend changing a field name that displays in the edit screen. To Replaceability, one is inclined to type None, when in actuality, it should be No, because the display field is Replaceable?. - Dudesleeper Talk 16:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
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<noinclude> <!-- Fair use tag, based on Template:Image-license-fairuse --> ((pp-template)) This template is to help users write fair use rationales for non-free logos as required by [[WP:NFC]] and [[WP:LOGO]]. Include this in the [[Help:Image page|image description page]] after the (([[Template:Non-free logo|non-free logo]])) template, once for each time you insert the logo graphic into an article. </noinclude>((Non-free media rationale | Special_header= - non-free logo <!-- -->| Article=((#if:(({Article<includeonly>|</includeonly>))}|(({Article))}|<!--<span style="color:red;">ERROR</span>—Must include parameter: ''Article=xxxxx''-->)) <!-- -->| Description=This is a logo <!-- -->((#if:(({Owner|))}|owned by (({Owner))}|)) for <!-- -->((#if:(({Used for|))}|(({Used for))} |(({Article))))}. <!-- -->((#if:(({History|))}|It is a historical logo. Its historical usage is as follows: (({History))}. |))<!-- -->((#if:(({Description|))}|Further details: (({Description))}|)) | Source=<!-- -->((#if:(({Website|))}|The logo is from the (({Website))} website. |))<!-- -->((#if:(({Source|))}|(({Source))}|((#if:(({Website|))}|| The logo may be obtained from <!-- -->((#if:(({Owner|))}|(({Owner))}|((#if:(({Used for|))}|(({Used for))}|(({Article))))))}.)))) | Portion=<!-- -->((#if:(({Portion|))}|(({Portion))}|The entire logo is used to convey the meaning intended and avoid tarnishing or misrepresenting the intended image.)) | Low_resolution=<!-- -->((#if:(({Low_resolution|))}|(({Low_resolution))}. |The logo is a size and resolution sufficient to maintain the quality intended by the company or organization, without being unnecessarily high resolution. )) | Purpose =<!-- --><noinclude>''Choose "Use=" Infobox / Org / Brand / Product / Public facility / Other '''''</noinclude><!-- -->((#if:(({Use|))}|<!-- -->((#switch:(({Use|))} |Infobox= The image is placed in the infobox at the top of the article discussing ((#if:(({Used for|))}|(({Used for))}|(({Article))))}, a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the organization, assure the reader they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the organization, and illustrate the organization's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey. |Org= The image is used to identify the organization ((#if:(({Used for|))}|(({Used for))}|(({Article))))}, a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the organization, assure the reader they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the organization, and illustrate the organization's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey. |Brand= The image is used to identify the brand ((#if:(({Used for|))}|(({Used for))}|(({Article))))}, a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the brand, assure the reader they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the brand, and illustrate the nature of the brand in a way that words alone could not convey. |Product= The image is used to identify ((#if:(({Used for|))}|(({Used for))}|(({Article))))}, a notable product or service. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the product or service, assure the reader they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about that product or service, and illustrate branding associations of the product or service in a way that words alone could not convey. |Public facility= The image is used to identify the following notable public facility: ((#if:(({Used for|))}|(({Used for))}|(({Article))))}. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify a facility (such as a road, airport, station, city, neighborhood, or the like), and assure the reader they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the facility. |#default= ((#if:(({Purpose|))}||<span style="color: red">'''Purpose must be stated here. '''</span>)) ))<!-- -->))((#if:(({Commentary|))}| ''There is commentary in the article about the logo itself as follows:'' (({Commentary))}. ))(({Purpose|))} | Replaceability= <!-- -->((#if:(({Replaceability|))}|(({Replaceability))}|Because it is a logo there is almost certainly no free equivalent. Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the meaning intended, would tarnish or misrepresent its image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary.)) | other_information=<!-- -->((#if:(({other_information|))}|(({other_information))}|Use of the logo in the article complies with Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:Non-free content | non-free content policy]], [[Wikipedia:Logos|logo guidelines]], and fair use under [[Fair use | United States copyright law]] as described above.)) ))<noinclude> ((template doc)) </noinclude>
Can the above change be made? This removes some hard breaks from the template, removing unneeded whitespace from above and below the template. This should have no effect on the functionality of the template. ~ PaulT+/C 16:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi there! There's currently a grammatical error in this template. In the "Use" field, all of the use descriptions essentially include this same line
The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the organization, assure the reader they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the organization, and illustrate the organization's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey. (Emphasis mine.)
Reader is singular, while they is, obviously, plural. Can this field be reworded to say either "assure the reader that he or she has reached the right article" or, preferably, "assure readers that they have reached the right article"? Sorry to be a Grammar Nazi, but it's just wrong as written. Cheers! Esrever (klaT) 15:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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This logo is locked. Would someone put in the template that the article is Quackwatch? It is the logo used for the Quackwatch website [1] to identify the site. Is there anything else needed to allow it to stay on the article because I am sure it is copy protection. If this is acceptable then can a picture of Stephen Barrett be put back up under that same reasoning as the logo? Sorry trying to learn and understand this. Thanks in advance, --CrohnieGalTalk 10:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
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Please change "Because it is a logo there is almost certainly no free equivalent" into "As a logo, no free equivalent could be found" to eliminate some redundant wording. Alexius08 (talk) 00:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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Please add the line ((#if:(({other_information))}(({other_info))}(({other_inf))}|[[Category:Other information]]))
to an appropriate place in the template. For the purpose of this detection, see Category:Other information.
Note: A similar edit has been made to another 7 unprotected templates, and 2 more edit requests can be found at Template:Album cover fur and Template:Non-free use rationale. Debresser (talk) 01:24, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
After discussion at Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Other_information the easier solution was preferred. I also asked advise at User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough#Advise. Please change -->((#if:(({other_information|))}|(({other_information))}|Use etc.
to -->((#if:(({other_information|(({Other information|))))))|(({other_information|(({Other information|))))))|Use etc.
. I'll update the documentation later (is after all not essential). Debresser (talk) 00:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
n.b. If it's not too much trouble, please also change "Non-free media rationale" to "Non-free use rationale", because the template was moved/renamed. Debresser (talk) 01:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
There appears to be a double space between logo and for, It's not on ((Template:Non-free use rationale)). Xeworlebi (t•c) 15:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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This template is totally broken. Whose idea was it to inject an extra full stop at the end of the commentary? Can't users be trusted to end their commentary quote with a full stop? Can they be relied upon to forget? Why, if you omit the purpose field, is an error message inserted before the commentary, that says "Purpose must be stated here.", but if you add a purpose argument, the purpose appears not "here", but after the commentary? Why is it I have to manually insert a non-breaking space at the beginning of the Purpose field in order to prevent the purpose following on spacelessly from that extra full stop that I didn't want inserted? It has been a long time since I had to work with such a badly implemented template. Hesperian 15:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
|#default= ((#if:(({Purpose|))}||<span style="color: red">'''Purpose must be stated here. '''</span>)) ))<!-- -->))((#if:(({Commentary|))}| ''There is commentary in the article about the logo itself as follows:'' "(({Commentary))}." ))(({Purpose|))}
by
|#default= ((#if:(({Purpose|))}|(({Purpose|))}|<span style="color: red">'''Purpose must be stated here. '''</span>)) ))<!-- -->))((#if:(({Commentary|))}| ''There is commentary in the article about the logo itself as follows:'' "(({Commentary))}" ))
Debresser (talk) 15:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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Would it be possible to edit the template so that the fields aren't case sensitive? That is, it should be possible for it to accept both |article=
and |Article=
as valid fields. Likewise, the appropriate values for the fields shouldn't be case sensitive either. Both Infobox
and infobox
should be valid for |Use=
(or |use=
, as it were). Cheers! Esrever (klaT) 02:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Not done - to do so would make it horrible. You would have to have each line twice, one with capitals and one without, and lots of extra code to work out which one to display. This is one good reason why we have a blank one template shown on the doc page, so that users can copy and paste, thus getting the field names correct. Ronhjones (Talk) 20:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
As witnessed two topics higher and again by Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Software change affects older "Logo fur" template? the previous construct regarding Use and Purpose was clearly a cause for confusion. I have made some changes that make missing or unknown Use params more visible. A category to track such incorrect uses can easily be added. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
((editprotected)) It appears the header of this box has two spaces between the words "logo" and "for", can this be remedied? 117Avenue (talk) 03:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Done —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
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Whitespace is being trimmed in the #if templates in the Source parameter, meaning if Website and Source are passed there is no space between the sentences. Also this template could make use of ((error)) in a couple of places instead of colouring text red. — cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 13:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
((editprotected)) Please make it so that the "Choose "Use=" Infobox / Org / Brand / Product / Public facility / Other" does not show up if already provided, like File:CarbideCppIcon.png. There's no reason to ask people to choose something already there. Unfortunately, I haven't the time to figure out what would make that part of the code disappear without messing something else up. It only shows up, though, after the latest revision (per the above EP). —fetch·comms 21:24, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm trying to use the template at this page, but the information isn't rendering correctly. Could you help me, please? --Maximz2005 (Talk) 19:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone could check the wording of 2 new clauses I've added to the sandboxed version.
The 2 new clauses are
Feedback on the intended wording and how they could be tweaked appreciated. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Dont no if anyone watches this space but I was wondering if we could change the current purpose of use wording generated by the "infobox" use.
Currently it is: The image is placed in the infobox at the top of the article discussing 1986 Asian Games, a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the organization, assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the organization, and illustrate the organization's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey.
However this focuses on organizations only. I propose a more general approach to dealing with logos in the infobox simply by changing the word "organization" to "subject" which would then allow us to apply it to more logos that appear in an infobox at the top of the aritcle:
The image is placed in the infobox at the top of the article discussing 1986 Asian Games, a subject of public interest. The significance of the logo is to help the reader identify the subject, assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the subject, and illustrate the subject's intended branding message in a way that words alone could not convey.
Salavat (talk) 15:50, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
This template needs to dispense with the line, "The logo may be obtained from [whoever]" sooner rather than later. The problem is that the image source has always been more along the lines of, "Where did YOU find this image?" The boilerplate text basically says, "You didn't specify a source for this image, but that's okay." Not a good thing, when we need to specify sources of images. And yes, I'm aware that many images would be impacted by a change like this. But we need to explain all of our sources. SchuminWeb (Talk) 17:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
How should the articles be specified in the license information if a single logo uploaded is to be used in more than one article ?
Anish Viswa 02:34, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
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There is a problem with a call to the ((error)) template at the line
|(({Purpose|))}<br />((error|Purpose was stated, but Use parameter of the template was not set. Choose "Use=" Infobox / Org / Brand / Product / Public facility / Other))
The template system doesn't seem to like the equal sign in the first argument and the ((error)) template is called with no arguments causing it to output '(({1))}'. This is remedied if this argument is explicitly set as 'messsage', like so
|(({Purpose|))}<br />((error|message=Purpose was stated, but Use parameter of the template was not set. Choose "Use=" Infobox / Org / Brand / Product / Public facility / Other))
Gooeypeach (talk) 21:21, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
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Current code looks like this:
|Source=((#if:(({Website|))} |The logo is from the (({Website))} website. )) ((#if:(({Source|))} |(({Source))} |((#if:(({Website|))}| |The logo may be obtained from ((#if:(({Owner|))} |(({Owner))} |((#if:(({Used for|))} |(({Used for))} |(({Article))} )) )). )) ))
This code inserts a the contents of |Website= parameter regardless of whether the |Source= is given or not.
But since |Source= is an override field, I think it must be like this:
|Source=((#if:(({Source|))} |(({Source))} |((#if:(({Website|))} |The logo is from the (({Website))} website. |The logo may be obtained from ((#if:(({Owner|))} |(({Owner))} |((#if:(({Used for|))} |(({Used for))} |(({Article))} )) )). )) ))
Or... perhaps I am missing something! Am I?
Fleet Command (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
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It appears that this change, fixing the previously-discussed issue relating to the website parameter, has now created a new problem: the website parameter is now completely non-functional — and as a result, a number of images are now erroneously in Category:Wikipedia files with unknown source. Now that the parameter is in the documentation, this probably should be rectified somehow…
WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:46, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
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We would like the City of Belmont logo to be removed as the image for this site. Reason being is that the logo/image is used as the picture for Facebook Places and is the same image as our Facebook page. This is causing confusion so please change it out with a picture of City Hall or contact me for further assistance. Thanks John
Mr JTall (talk) 14:54, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
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This template uses a hyphen where it should use a dash. Could |Special_header= - non-free logo
please be changed to |Special_header= – non-free logo
? Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 05:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Just a notice that I set up auto-archiving on this page. Any thread older than 30 days will be archived, with a minimum of 4 threads staying on this page. Thanks, LegoKontribsTalkM 00:45, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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Subject to testing could the template be updated to use the code in the sandbox which extends this template so it can be used for crests, symbols, seals etc by addition of a type-param? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:58, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
|type=
, but nothing about this change. How will this additional administrative burden allow anyone to "cope" with seals, crests, and insignia? Please revert until further discussion can take place. Senator2029 ➔leave me a message 08:16, 15 February 2013 (UTC)![]() | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
The "Replaceability" parameter includes a spelling error: "repesentation" should be "representation". -- Perey (talk) 08:25, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Why doesn't this template actually display the FUR text? See File:Reese's-PB-Cups-Wrapper-Small.jpg: I and another editor have written specific reasons why using this image is an acceptable fair use, but you'll only see them if you open the editing window. The regular reader is only going to see boilerplate text, which produces the nonsensical statement "The image is used to identify Candy, a notable product or service." Yeah, well, it's not being used to "identify Candy"; it's being used to identify the specific product that is #5 in the table of the world's best-selling candy. Is there a way to make this template actually display the true purpose instead of the boilerplate? WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:42, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Ehm, does this image even pass our criteria for fair use in the article Candy ? I mean there are plenty of images in that article already, sort of indicates that it would fail our Non-free content criteria. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:12, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
See Template:Non-free use rationale logo/testcases, which I updated to include more testcases, which shows that this template's diagnostic logic for errors needs to be fixed/improved. It complains: "No purpose specified. Please edit this image description and provide a purpose." when the supposedly optional parameter Purpose is not set, while neglecting to say that the required parameter Use isn't set to a valid value either. – Wbm1058 (talk) 17:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
This and many other fair use rationale templates use capital parameters. Why? I often find myself going back and editing the case after seeing the template produce an error. — Train2104 (talk • contribs) 21:39, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Could someone please elaborate on History: If logo is discontinued or modified, use this field if it is necessary to explain when and how was it used historically.? Does this refer to historical use of the logo in the real world, e.g. by organisations, or historical instances of the file here, as detailed in the 'File history' section? Thanks. -- Trevj (talk) 12:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
The Template:Non-free use rationale 2 provides an alternative to Template:Non-free use rationale. Is it necessary to provide an alternative to this template that have ([[WP:NFCC#7]])-style link?
Timothy Gu (talk) 19:03, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard is the current default standard means of uploading files, and it uses Template:Non-free use rationale 2 for logos; so in effect the File Upload Wizard has "deprecated" both Template:Non-free use rationale and Template:Non-free use rationale logo. Which I think is a good thing, considering how confusing this template's syntax is. So, at this point I just want to primarily clean up ((error))s in historical usage of this template, as I suspect that there is relatively little new usage of it. But, both of these "deprecated" templates could be upgraded to show the same helpful WP:NFCC#7, and WP:NFCC#8, WP:NFCC#4, WP:NFCC#3, etc. links that ((Non-free use rationale 2)) does. Wbm1058 (talk) 04:35, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
I just found that this template isn't entirely deprecated by use of Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. The Template:Infobox company#Parameters documentation says:
Upload a wordmark/logo graphic using the organization logo upload form. Note: uploading trademarked corporate logos by other means or uploading corporate logos to Wikimedia Commons is likely to result in deletion of the logo.
This "upload form" prepopulates the file upload summary with:
((logo fur
<!-- REQUIRED -->
|Article =
|Use = Org
<!-- HIGHLY RECOMMENDED -->
|Source =
<!-- ADDITIONAL INFORMATION -->
|Used for =
|Owner =
|Website =
|History =
|Commentary =
<!-- OVERRIDE FIELDS -->
|Description =
|Portion =
|Low_resolution =
|Purpose =
|Replaceability =
|other_information =
))
((logo fur)) redirects to Template:Non-free use rationale logo; note that this method defaults the required Use parameter to "Org". – Wbm1058 (talk) 18:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
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The grammar in the "Replaceable?" field is incorrect. It should either have a comma between the subordinate clause (i.e. the bit from "because" to "logo") and the main clause (i.e. the bit from "there" to "representation") or the clauses should be swapped around. So either:
would be fine. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 12:00, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Images that use the "override fields" are being added to the new maintenance category Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. Using the same name for essentially different parameters seems like a very bad idea. Perhaps all the "override" fields should be renamed with "_alt" appended. Jason Quinn (talk) 00:28, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
"You may copy the following to your image page." What does this mean? Does it mean "You may copy the following to the page to which you want to add the image"? "Image page" has no meaning for me. Please respond here. Thank you. GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:25, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
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Please change the text fair use under [[Fair use|United States copyright law]]
to [[fair use]] under [[United States copyright law]]
so that the links are more straightforward and easier to understand. Thank you!
—Granger (talk · contribs) 01:18, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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Be able to tag multiple articles for use under article variable: Reason being, for example here is used on 3 University of Pretoria-related articles, namely: University of Pretoria, University of Pretoria F.C. and TUKS Rugby League.
Should one be able to tag multiple articles that the logo is used on as non-free use. I think it's appropriate as all 3 articles are of the same university and therefore need to use the UP logo. This evades having to upload 3 non-free logos for non-free use. As the latter is typically done, there should be a way to simply tag multiple articles for use. (Obviously within reason and avoiding overuse with a warning). -- Waddie96 (talk) 14:51, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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template. Policy requires separate WP:FURs for each use. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:05, 21 April 2018 (UTC)