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What is the point of this template? The page does not explain what it does so all I can gather from it is it adds Category:Unprintworthy redirects. Why do we need a template to add a category? Isn't it much easier just to add the category? McLerristarr (Mclay1) (talk) 07:16, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
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I've created a documentation page at Template:R unprintworthy/doc. Please reference it on this template page. This is a response to the TfD discussion on this template that made it clear that such a page is needed. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 03:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
((R ...))
. Even if you don't like it, it shouldn't be changed undiscussed. Andy Dingley (talk) 13:09, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
redirect:
namespace, which then gets awkward because you have to make the page renderer accept names from either namespace and use them as if they're from the Main namespace. Besides which, WP supports neither of these. So for "the set of templates for redirect" and "the set of templates for non-redirects", the easiest way to distinguish them is to use the names and let the humans check it.((R verbose))
and others named ((verbose redirect))
would be really unhelpful. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:09, 11 February 2011 (UTC)The result of the move request was: page moved already, apparently. Non admin closure D O N D E groovily Talk to me 15:36, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Template:Unprintworthy redirect → Template:R unprintworthy — It is custom that redirect categories begin with "R". This template was "R Unprintworthy until yesterday when it was moved without discussion.--D O N D E groovily Talk to me 15:31, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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This template – R unprintworthy – needs to be upgraded to the ((Redirect template)) code usage in the same manner as is ((R printworthy)). To illustrate the difference I have two non-Mainspace redirects, one that uses this Unprintworthy Rcat and one that uses the Printworthy Rcat...
The Unprintworthy redirect in my user space does not populate the Category:Unprintworthy redirects, and that is an important aspect. When you look at the Printworthy redirect, you see that it performs a similar task (it keeps the non-Mainspace redirect out of the Printworthy redirects category) and also makes the redirect populate Category:Pages with templates in the wrong namespace, which informs the editor that the wrong Rcat has been used. In order to upgrade this R unprintworthy Rcat, please edit the source as follows:
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This is a redirect that would not belong in print.
However, it may be a valid navigational aid for computer searches.
For more information, follow the category link.
<includeonly>((main other|
[[Category:Unprintworthy redirects]]))
</includeonly><noinclude>
((documentation))
</noinclude>
<!-- this is Template:R unprintworthy -->
((#ifeq:(({embed))}|yes|((Redirect template|name=From an unprintworthy name|from=a name that would not be helpful in [[Meta:Paper Wikipedia|print]] format|main category=Unprintworthy redirects))|((Redirect template|from=a title that would '''[[:Category:Unprintworthy redirects|not be helpful]]''' in print format<includeonly>|main category=Unprintworthy redirects</includeonly>))))<noinclude>
((Documentation))
</noinclude>
To show that the new code will work as expected, I have placed it in the ((R unprintworthy/sandbox)) and have placed that sandbox on a non-Mainspace redirect and a Mainspace shortcut redirect...
As is seen, my Userspace redirect is still kept out of the Unprintworthy redirects category, and now it also populates the Category:Pages with templates in the wrong namespace. In addition, the Mainspace shortcut redirect is still correctly sorted into the Unprintworthy redirects category. Thank you in advance for effecting this modification! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 00:40, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Issues? Oh yes. Text and the special markup of the ((This is a redirect)) template should be on redirect pages, and T16323 shows this has been an issue for a long time. When that bug was initiated, one could at least see the redirect text on diff pages, but even that doesn't happen anymore. See T44642 for that little fiasco. At present, the only time one can see anything like that on a redirect is when it's disabled, such as during an Rfd, for example this redirect. I look forward to a day when there is text on redirects to help newer editors better understand what's going on. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 15:04, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
When the template appears at the beginning of a document on a line by itself [1] it displays the message "This is a redirect from a title that would not be helpful in print format."
When it is added at the end of a line:
#REDIRECT [[Bihar People's Party]] ((unprintworthy))
[2] the message does not appear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rybec (talk • contribs) 22:49, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
@Paine Ellsworth: Please apply edit 610978857 to this template as well. Petr Matas 20:52, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
It would be nice to add a parameter (e.g. better=
) that points to a printworthy redirect that makes this one redundant.
Often when there are very similar redirects to an article (such that they are alphabetically next to each other), it only makes sense to make one of them printworthy and the rest unprintworthy. However, it isn't immediately obvious to future editors visiting these redirects why they're unprintworthy, which might result in them unwittingly switching them to printworthy.
The text in the template with the parameter used could be rendered e.g. like so:
This is a redirect from a title that is too similar to ((other redirect)), a printworthy redirect to the same page, to be helpful in a printed or CD/DVD version of Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Printability for more helpful information.
AVDLCZ (talk) 23:22, 7 August 2023 (UTC)