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Hey - noticed that you requested a complete rewrite of the First Vision article. When identifying articles that need some kind of attention, it is customary to list the reasons for the tag on the talk page for the article. This is particularly true when using the ((cleanup-rewrite)) since it specifically refers people who want to help with such a rewrite to the talk page. Could you add comments on why you tagged the article here. Thx in adv - Trödel 01:21, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello! You have expressed interest in the WP:LAKES so I took the liberty of adding your username to the participants section of the project. I have also created User WikiProject Lakes though I may not have followed correct procedures with creating the logo. So, if you would like to add that logo to your userpage, you are certainly welcome to. And if you can figure out how I was supposed to create the logo, please let me know ;) Em3rald 17:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind ... I took the liberty of putting your user boxes in to a table. If you don't like me doing so, by all means and revert :D. On the other hand, you might consider making a user page that looks fancy! I stole the basic ideas for mine from Sango123 who is more than willing to help any wikipedian with design & layout. Cheers! Em3rald 08:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I noticed some of the excellent work you've done for the Lakes project recently! You and User:ThreeBlindMice have been very busy the last day or two. Rest assured, it doesn't go unnoticed. I just wanted to say thanks. Em3rald 06:17, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
What specific points did you think needed copyediting on this article? Did you consider being WP:BOLD and editing it yourself? If there's anything specific you want done, respond here, on my talk, or on the article's talk page and I'll try to help. Thanks. --Guinnog 21:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
The Dead Sea surface elevation of the shoreline is the lowest land point on earth. At 418 m (1371 ft) below sea level falling [1], even though the Jordan River is a tributary. This endorheic body of water is the deepest hypersaline lake in the world measuring 67 km long, up to 18 km wide and 799 m below sea level in depth at its deepest point.
Most of these I could do myself, and indeed I tried, but unfortunately I am not a great writer, so once I start splitting things into other paragraphs, I end up with a mess worse than when I started. It would probably be better if someone else did that part of it, though I will certainly try to help if I can.
Certainly there are more problems in the article, but I'll have to work on those later.
--Lethargy 22:25, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I have made my clarification there. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 19:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lethargy. I see that you are a member of Wikiproject: Fishes and I was wondering if you are interested in helping to improve fish related articles (in particular Goldfish and Ryukin). QuizQuick 21:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding yourself to the Mormon CoM. I noticed your note about it being redundant with the LDS Movement collaboration, but I think its creation was necessary for a few reasons, the biggest of which was that the LDS Movement collaboration was defunct. The Mormon CoM, on the other hand, is and will continue to be up-to-date - even if I'm the only contributor (which is sometimes the case). In any case, I look forward to working with you on various Mormon related projects. --uriah923(talk) 13:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Your nomination has been selected for the August 2006 Mormon collaboration: Mormon handcart pioneers. I look forward to working with you to improve the article. --uriah923(talk) 15:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Sure, I can add some stuff to it. I won't be able to do it at this precise moment, but I can especially add a lake-effect snow section to it, as it's one of the most important influences on Salt Lake City's weather. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do much on the other things; hydrology and ecosystems aren't my specialty. That seems to be where you excel, although I may be able to contribute some with the sources provided on the to-do list. bob rulz 05:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick GA review on Operation Wrath of God. I realized afterward that it could also fit in the Social Sciences GA category, but I guess either is fine. Again I appreciate your helpful crits. --Joshdboz 00:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm no slouch in the procrastination department myself, but I promise to look over the Capitol Reef National Park article and put my comments here. Also, I have some photos of Capitol Reef-- I'll upload them and put them on my user page so you can decide if you want to use them. --Rmwarnick 16:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you responded to the peer review for Salt Lake City, and I must say it helps a lot just for that little bit. First off I looked at the climate section and there is mention of the lake-effect there: "Lake-effect snow occurs often from mid-fall through mid-winter, and can lead to localized excessive snowfalls." However, do you think it deserves more mention? Even I believe that the climate section is already getting a bit long (despite how much I love meteorology), and I've been thinking of a few ways I could rewrite it without losing any valuable information but making it more concise and informative. Also, simply for future reference, all population estimates I have mentioned come from official U.S. Census Bureau estimates, although simply because there have been some people questioning where those figures come from (others besides you) I can add a reference to it in the article. The occurrance of the lake stink thing can be solved with adding "ocassionally" to the sentence, but as you said it would be great it we could find a source to how often that happens. Also, you seem to know how the notes system works better than me; is the current format correct with just the external link and a description of it next to it, or would it need that more in-depth reference description that I find in other articles? Thanks for all the help with everything so far, and hopefully we can get both Great Salt Lake and Salt Lake City, Utah to featured status soon. And yes, I think I will go add a section on the lake-effect on Great Salt Lake now... bob rulz 13:37, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, I may be able to find some of the stuff that you mention on the talk page. Here's a great source for tornadoes in Utah. I think a Tornadoes in Utah article would be a great idea. I'll also analyze the article and figure out the best way to split it up. I don't know how much additional information I can find, however. I'll do some searching. Lastly, while we're on this subject, do you think that this is worthy of being an article? I've been working it as a subpage for a while and I originally planned for it not to be an article, thinking that information would be too sparse. However, I'm even surprised at the quality it's turned out to be. And I also finally created a lake-effect section on the Great Salt Lake article. Hopefully it's satisfactory. bob rulz 22:02, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
My apologies. I tend to end up with 20 or more windows open when I'm editing, and most of the time when I get an edit conflict message, I'm conflicting with myself. I usually check, but all of a sudden, Wikipedia started sending "can't connect to database" error messages, so I couldn't. In any case, I'm sorry and I didn't mean to trample your edit. ClairSamoht - Help make Wikipedia the most authoritative source of information in the world 23:53, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get back to your regarding your article -- I have been greviously neglecting the Wikipedia lately because of various other "close-to-home" and real-life priorities. Work, school, family ... that sort of thing. I will go check out your article and give you some feedback though - better late than never, I suppose :D. Em3rald 02:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lethargy, I just wanted to let you know that I self-nominated the article Operation Wrath of God here for FA. You had helped greatly with this article's peer review and GA, so if you have the chance, I would appreciate any comments you could make here. Thanks again, Joshdboz 12:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the support! I owe you one. Joshdboz 00:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi - I noted that an anon user had added the citation missing template to Zion National Park and Capitol Reef National Park. Both are well written non-controversial articles with references listed. The Zion Park article is a featured article. I consider the tags at the top of a good article to be quite ugly and as they were added by an anon, I simply removed them. I see you have reverted that with the comment, footnotes are needed.
Thanks, Vsmith 01:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lethargy. Would you mind deleting the redirects Template:Citations-needed and Template:Citations needed you created? Just blank them and insert ((db-author)). An admin will then delete them.
Creating template redirects makes template maintenace with bots more difficult (bots only look at the wiki-source for the name of the template in articles. Needing to scan for a whole list of aliases of a templates is a real pain). If there is no very stringent need for a new template redirect (like moving a template already in use to a better name per consensus), please do us botters the favor and consider not creating such redirects. Many thanks in advance for your consideration! Cheers, --Ligulem 09:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
You asked, "The newer version implies that not all of the emigrants went with the handcart companies, is this intentional?" Yes, I was trying to both simplify the text and make it more accurate. In reviewing the journals and other source material, I've become increasingly aware that all of the companies had some individuals drop out along the way. For example, a footnote in Hafen and Hafen says that 7 families (33 individuals) dropped out of the first company. So, yes, the slight change in meaning was intentional. Thank you for asking. BRMo 02:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lethargy. Thanks for writing back. First, I was worried about the removal of the statement: which are historically connected to the Protestant Reformation, which is an important statement. Second, I would think it OK to move up the Mormons, but the Jehovah's Witnesses were not moved up too, and they make the same claim. Though the statement from the paragraph below: differences in basic doctrines and origins, should probably be included too, because the paragraph would then be nearly defunct (this statement is an important, and NPOV way, of mentioning the controversy surrounding JW and LDS). Please don't misunderstand - I don't mean to bash Mormonism, but it seemed a bit POV to me. Thanks! -Patstuart 03:19, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Lethargy, Thank you for the barnstar. I will take a look at the articles you've recommended and see if I have any thoughts. But in a few days I will be traveling (for about a week), so it may have to wait a while. (I was starting to get worried that we wouldn't get a decision on the handcart pioneers FAC until I had to travel, which would have been a problem--I've learned that dealing with an FAC requires that you be very responsive to comments and objections!) Thanks again for your support. BRMo 03:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
that you added to the ACLU page. I didnt even know that particular template existed. Any contributions you make to the page will be appreciated. Thanks. Jasper23 22:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I've been gone awhile. Is there anything I can do to help? --Pahoran513 00:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to have to protest some of your changes to the Salt Lake City article, and I've already reverted some of them. For one, the article is becoming bogged down with an unnessecarily large number of [citation needed] tags. Citations are great, but there's a huge number of them, and some of the things with a tag next to them don't really need citations. If we can find them, that's great, but I'm afraid that your excessive use of these tags and demanding of the citations will ultimately hurt the potential for Salt Lake City to become a featured article in the long run. Not to mention it's hard to find some of the info you're asking for, and also, since I have less time on my hands, and you can't do everything, this just delays the process.
Secondly, but not least, is your almost dictatorial removal of supposed weasel words and peacock terms (a term which I didn't know about until today). Certainly the inclusion of most of what you removed is not detrimental to the encyclopedia. Wikipedia has recently come under an insane number of rules and regulations to the point of you need citations for everything and the inclusion of even one weasel word or peacock term is detrimental to the encyclopedia, almost to the point of violating the standards of the English language. (Are there better terms to replace these weasel words with? Certainly the removal of some of these not only is detrimental to the writing quality, but are not even improving the encyclopedia. The inclusion of some weasel words is necessary to properly explain and display that piece of information.)
Sorry, I got a little off-track there, and it goes far beyond the scope of the article and your edits...I just had to bring it to your attention (and get a bit of frustration off my chest regarding this emerging Dictatorship of Wikipedia mentality.:P). bob rulz 00:30, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Although there really isn't a "vote" and the type of support comments you and I made are less frequent now, they were quite frequent earlier (the last time I monitored TFA was last fall/winter around the time when the Early life of Joseph Smith, Jr. was feature on the 200th anniversary of his birth). I think it helps Raul654 to see that there are editors supporting an application to be today's featured article. The thing we need to be prepared for is that onslaught of edits (many of which are vandalism, but some of which will be very helpful to the article). The LOTR featured article had about 400 edits during the day it was featured and the average article will have about 200 or ~10 per hour, so diligence is necessary, especially for subtle vandalism that will not be detected by those who normally watch featured articles for vandalism (i.e. people adding something that sounds plausible). --Trödel 16:49, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your note. I think since we have the List of world's largest lakes and List of lakes we're OK for Version 0.5, since for most topics we only have one or two lists. If we hadn't reached a long-term consensus I'd add it in for discussion, but I think it'd be a hassle trying to add it now long after nominations have closed. I hope that some of the articles excluded this time like Lake Geneva can be expanded and go on a set nomination for version 0.7, along with this extra list. Thanks, Walkerma 04:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
The POV being pushed is strictly the POV of the LDS church ... we all know that early church leaders were arrested for various crimes; that would be a good reason to move out of those jurisdictions. I will not sit by idly and allow the LDS church's POV to be used in these articles. Duke53 | Talk 22:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC) p.s If the baptism stuff is covered elsewhere I propose that the whole section be deleted.
You could be thinking of somewhere north of 2100 South and east of 1300 East. That seems to me like the area that would fit that description the best. Garden something doesn't ring a bell though. bob rulz 23:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Lethargy! Just wanted to let you that I cited the trivia section in Orinoco Flow -- The Music of Enya as you requested. I also fixed your Google Earth userbox on your userpage for you (it had been moved due to the userbox migration). God bless! -- P.B. Pilhet / Talk 16:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thanks for all your work in the Latter Day Saint Wikiproject. I don't award barnstars, however, if I did, you'd be worthy of one. We may not always see eye to eye (few do with me), but your work is very much appreciated. -Visorstuff 03:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Regarding photos of Temple Square, I don't have any digital photos that would work very well. We'll probably visit the Square during the Christmas season this year, so I'll try to take some then. — Zaui (talk) 20:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has been selected as the November Mormon collaboration of the month. I look forward to working with you on it. --uriah923(talk) 21:48, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
You posted "This article or section does not cite its references or sources" on an article recently. I'd love to comply but not sure how, as most of the info comes directly from the items themselves (in this case a product line of games and books from the 1980s and 90s from a publisher that no longe exists.) Many thanks. Jape77 23:58, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
You changed LDS Church to a piped link LDS Church using AWB. Was that built into AWB or is it somethign you added yourself. WP has a policy of avoiding piped links, I believe the policy is to either change it to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (which there is already a link to), or leave it as is. Changing it to a piped link leads to the easter egg effect, which I believe is undesirable. Your change was reverted. McKay 15:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Dev920 15:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The ones I replaced weren't mine, and two of them were scholarly sources. --Tsuzuki26 00:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that you are acting in an uncivil manner. Please remain civil and don't resort to making personal attacks or instigating edit wars. "By affiliation I was referring to Duke's assertion that we are a cabal. As far as seeing the same pattern, please put your money where your mouth is and link to instances where "those voting to Delete are systematically deleting the article part by part already" Duke53 | Talk 08:08, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Care to weigh in on the AfD for this article? -- 63.224.136.62 03:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
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As a contributor to the different lists of temples, I was wondering if you could give some feedback concerning the addition several columns to the Comparison of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints page. thx --Trödel 22:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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Your vote helped Temple Square to be selected as the January Mormon Collaboration of the Month. I look forward to working with you to improve the article. uriah923(talk) 23:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
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I've noticed you've been away. — Zaui (talk) 06:02, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
In regards to you most recent edit to the article, the idea was to point out distinguishing features within the context of seventh generation game consoles. To my knowledge, neither the Xbox 360 nor PlayStation 3 allow for a stand-by mode similar to what WiiConnect24 does. For that reason, I think it should remain in the lead section. Just64helpin 18:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Due to your vote, Mormon pioneers has been selected as the February Mormon Collaboration of the Month. I look forward to your efforts. uriah923(talk) 17:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Your vote has helped baptism for the dead be selected as the March 2007 Mormon Collaboration of the Month. I look forward to working with you on the article. uriah923(talk) 19:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a new proposal on naming conventions for fish being discussed at WikiProject Fishes. As a member of said project your feedback would be appreciated at the WikiProject Fishes talk page here. Cheers, David. MidgleyDJ 07:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Partially due to your vote, Extermination order has been selected as the Mormon collaboration of the month. I look forward to working with you on the article. uriah923(talk) 19:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Partially due to your vote, Neil A. Maxwell has been selected as the Mormon collaboration of the month. I look forward to working with you on the article. uriah923(talk) 22:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate the efforts of Visorstuff to resolve the situation at First Vision. I now understand that he was hampered by his past involvement in this article and with John Foxe. No one is editing the article right now, but I believe that John Foxe's comments on the talk page demonstrate that he either cannot understand or refuses to comply with the WP:NPOV policy. I'm trying to gain a consensus on his inappropriate behavior, and I invite you, as a past contributor to this article, to add your comments to this discussion. If you think that my behavior also warrants criticism, I invite that as well. I will be posting this invitation on several other user talk pages, but with your past history on this article you might be aware of other editors who have walked away. Please feel free to let them know what is going on and invite their input at Talk:First_Vision#Time_for_action. 74s181 13:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
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