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Out of curiosity, what is your justification for, after minimal activity for five years, suddenly making this change across a broad range of articles over the past couple of days? Daniel Case (talk) 19:53, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for noticing. I think crash (or collision) is neutral and descriptive. Accident can carry the implication that the event was unavoidable, or that the persons involved are not to blame. In many cases (e.g. DUI or excessive speed) that is clearly not the case. However, to sort out whether was an incident was truly "an accident" is difficult and often a judgement call. Language like "crash" or "collision" is clear and direct yet avoids that issue. Sczajic (talk) 20:02, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I think it's the exact opposite. "Crash" sounds much more harsh and unnavoidable than "accident" which by defintion is an unexpected event. A crash can almost sound purposeful in some contexts (E.g They crashed the car into oncoming traffic), whilst with accident there is no way of making that sentence sound purposeful. FishandChipper🐟🍟 21:58, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merriam-Webster defines "crash" as "to break violently and noisily : SMASH". It is not more "neutral" than accident, which in the context of a traffic mishap, means "an unfortunate event resulting especially from carelessness or ignorance" (the exact opposite of your supposition it implies "unavoidable") and can be descriptive of something that is not always appropriate to the context. Specifically in the case of Mary Jo Kopechne, people don't generally call the cause of her death a "crash". The car hit water with enough force to dent the roof, but did not cause the car "to break violently and noisily", and she certainly did not die from bodily trauma as "killed in a car crash" implies. Accuracy trumps your perceived "neutrality". JustinTime55 (talk) 19:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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