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Secret's note on 'transwiki' Transwiki log
Category:AfD debates (Biographical)
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I've thought about such a project myself. The problem I see with it is that, once you allow biographies of any living person, the material becomes virtually non-verifiable through any independent source. This would open up the site to become a haven for subtle attack pages that may not be as obvious as "Bob is gay." IMO, Wikipedia dodged a legal bullet with the Seigenthaler case so you can imagine the potential legal ramifications for a site with virtually no verifiability requirements. Redfarmer (talk) 09:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Below is an exchange I had with user "Secret" on his talk page. Subject heading: "Transwiki to non-Wikipedia projects"TheYellowCabin (talk) 13:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to ask for a clarification, if I may. On January 12, I added a note to the Charlie Witmack deletion discussion indicating that I was going to transwiki the article to Wikipopuli.com. You wrote: "Transwiki is only for another wikipedia project, not a private wiki." I was basing my suggestion on this line in WP:GD: "Transwiki is a recommendation to copy the article to a sister project in Wikimedia (such as Wiktionary, Wikisource, Wikibooks, or one of the foreign language projects) and remove it from Wikipedia, either by deleting it or redirecting it to another article. It has also been used to recommend a transfer to a wiki aimed at a more specific audience (for example, Wookieepedia for Star Wars topics, WikiFur for furry fandom topics)." In that context, do you think it's reasonable to transfer an article that was bound for deletion to a site more friendly to it? My follow-up question would be a philosophical one. I basically created Wikipopuli because I saw that many biographical articles were being deleted from Wikipedia for non-notability, and it seemed like their ought to be a home for such articles, so long as they aren't libelous, nonsense, etc. I understand why articles with basically no external sourcing can't be allowed on Wikipedia, but do you think there's a reason why something like Wikipopuli shouldn't be allowed, or even encouraged? Thx. TheYellowCabin (talk) 03:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
It's because of licensing of the history and such Secret account 04:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello TheYellowCabin. How are you? Thank you for your note. I just visited www.wikipopuli.com and it looks good. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you for the link, it should help a lot. BWMSDogs (talk) 14:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Nice work but right now it's too small for me to really be interested in. I do find myself thinking sometimes about the possibility "what if Wikipedia had articles on the people I know... wouldn't that be cool?" (although I obviously never actually go to create articles about people that are without doubt non-notable) so I like what you're doing. Thanks.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 15:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, TheYellowCabin thank you for your sugestion and project that can help really non wikipedian notabilities issues. Thats no the case in my articles. The dispute in my articles are this way by the tricky way some users organize by interest. What is notability for an Australian can be no notability for a portuguese you see. Anyway congratulations for the project that i will recommend strongly from now on. Regards Carlos Botelho (talk) 17:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
If you're going to tell me my article is up for deletion could you mention what article you're talking about? -Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 05:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello TheYellowCabin, I just wanted to talk to you about your edits here. According to this, you have 181 total edits, 153 of which are to User talk pages regarding "Transwiki to a more suitable site." We at Wikipedia are here to build a better Wikipedia, not any other wiki outside of the Wikimedia Foundation, and thus all of our users are required to make constructive edits to this wiki. "Transwiki" is only for projects within the Wikimedia Foundation, and no other wiki. It is completely acceptable for you to copy any of the text on Wikipedia as it is under the GFDL and use it for basically anything you want, but it is not ok to advertise what seems to be your site, or a site you have a vested interest in. Please see WP:SPAM and WP:CANVASS (loosely associated with sending out many messages for a certain reason). Please consider this a formal warning to cease this type of editing, which means you should not contact users on-Wiki pertaining to the Wiki you are promoting or make edits to AFDs or other deletion pages regarding the site. If you should continue these types of edits, I or another admin, shall be forced to indefinitely block this account for spamming and blatant advertising. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me here or on my talk page. Thanks. « Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 01:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Yellow Cabin - I think I may have updated this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Silvera in accordance with guide lines, though I see the decision was to keep it anyway! Could you tell me how long it will be before the proposed deletion tag is taken down? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gracewhite (talk • contribs) 17:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)