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The result was merge to Community college. Tone 21:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Community college research[edit]

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This looks to me like a mix of an extended dictionary definition (community college research is research into community colleges) and original research. Guy (Help!) 20:56, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete - original research. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I can't see the OR, where is it? Bearian (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or merge Adequate summary, listing sources available. A merge would be possible DGG ( talk ) 00:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is the difference between this and the wiki on community colleges? This page is no different from that one...this one contains encyclopedic knowledge of community college research organizations and publications that are mentioned in several prominent community college leadership textbooks. This wiki just pulls them together. "original" research would contain opinions and commentary...this is just a listing of research organizations on community colleges...a "literature review"...you could find this in an encyclopedia.

I have no affiliation with any of these organizations in case you try the advertising or spam route next...this wiki was meant to be a child page from the community colleges wiki...I thought about adding it to the community colleges wiki, but it seemed to clutter it up too much and make it too long...but I could live with a merge if that is what you want...I also intended on writing a two or three paragraph blurb on each of those research entities/organizations (just like the existing wikis on the american association of community colleges and the association of community college trustees...you have wikis on two of the major educational research organizations but not on several of the other majors nor any of the minors...thus, the wikis are incomplete and that is where I thought I would help to fill in, since no one else seemed to be doing it...this follows practice from the WP:first wiki)

I have also made a community college conferences wiki which has been flagged...gosh you sysops are quick to flag things as spam or advertising without any research...I have nothing to do with those conferences...again, I was just filling in the gaps....

Thus, my overall intent was to start filling in the information more on community colleges by adding onto the wikis and expanding them more...I was hoping to pass this off even more to my doctoral students at the University of Texas and around the country so we could get even more input from a variety of sources...but I don't think that is going to happen when everything is flagged for one reason or the other, even though I followed the instructions on WP:first, read about the conferences and rules for posting for conferences, did research on these conference wikis:

Here are the wiki's I researched and modeled the wiki after: Here are similar wiki pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Community_College_Trustees http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Association_of_Community_Colleges

Here are other education-related conference wikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democratic_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Democratic_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interservice/Industry_Training,_Simulation_and_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Computers_in_Education_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_India_Mumammadan_Educational_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Conference_on_Higher_Education_2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_for_Jazz_Education_(IAJE)

Here are other non-education-related conference wikis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEF_CON_(convention) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwicon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notacon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhreakNIC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShmooCon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summercon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ToorCon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hackers_Conference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CodeCon

and spent the better part of four days taking suggestions from one sysop after another on posting only to work myself in big circles...so do what you want...it is clear wiki is not for educators if a third-party cannot even post a couple of blurbs to help out in the spirit for which wiki was founded...

Please do not take this negatively...thanks for considering it...but if it is not meant to be then it is not meant to be...I will not protest anymore after this if it is not allowed...four days trying is enough...

Have a good weekend.

UTAPROF ZXQ (talk) 02:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- clarification - There is no community college wiki that I am aware of; by "wiki" above, do you perchance mean "article in Wikipedia"? Because those are two totally different things! --Orange Mike | Talk 17:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC) (community college alumnnus)[reply]

Merge to Community college. This is good information, but it's presentation as a standalone article is awkward. Rather than just as a compromise between deletion and keeping, a merge to the community college article would be the ideal way of presenting this well-sourced material in an article that is in need of it. Them From Space 01:29, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - It's original research in the sense that it's a synthesis of the sources into something beyond what they themselves say. "Many of these institutions and organizations present the most current research and practical outcomes at annual community college conferences." is a good example of that.

This is a list. I would support a rewrite & move into "List of community college research publications". Shadowjams (talk) 23:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Community college. Just edit the text when merging. Warrah (talk) 21:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge seems to be the clear choice here. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 04:28, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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