The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Tracklist valid, needs more refs, album to be released this month so all should be proven (non-admin closure) (talk→ Bwilkins / BMW ←track) 19:35, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Despues de Todo[edit]

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WP:CRYSTAL violation. Only reliable source I could find was this, and it doesn't mention tracklists or release dates. Everything else appears to have been constructed from blogs. —Kww(talk) 20:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: A reliable source for the tracklisting and title has been found. I will contact the sole delete voter and ask him to withdraw, and then withdraw the AFD.—Kww(talk) 17:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:CBALL --Artene50 (talk) 04:08, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, Merge or userfy If sources cannot be found, userfy to creator's user page, so when album is released, editors don't have to reinvent the wheel. If sources can be found (all I can find are in spanish, keep.[1] Ikip (talk) 14:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Given that none of the information in the article is derived from a reliable source, what will merging accomplish? You are right that all the sources are in Spanish, but that isn't a problem ... if there was reliable information to be derived from them, the translation isn't an issue. The problem is that a Spanish blog is still a blog, and a Spanish fansite is still a fansite.—Kww(talk) 14:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know that the information was not from a reliable source? Have you spoken with Theco0lezt, the creator of the article. Actually the article is very specific? Maybe the limits of our Spanish ability makes it hard to find sources. This page is hardly a blog or fansite, it is lacking sources, which can be remedied, but all of the necessary formatting is there to make it look like an encyclopedic article. That is why I suggest merging. Ikip (talk) 15:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I read Spanish pretty well, actually ... I have to deal with Spanish and Papiamentu (a Portuguese/Dutch/West African creole with a lot of similarities to Spanish) every day of my life. This article is a very typical WP:CRYSTAL violating article ... not about something that is false, but about something that there isn't enough detailed information to base an article on yet. These articles are routinely deleted every day, and kept once WP:HAMMER is satisfied: Title, release date, and tracklist.—Kww(talk) 16:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Note the name of the fifth album is "Para Olvidarte De Mí" (To Forget Me) not "Despues de Todo" ("After All" in spanish). Ikip (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's the name of the first single from the album, not the album.—Kww(talk) 16:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the clarification. Ikip (talk) 17:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and userfy. That it is a non-English release doesn't mean it should not be held to the same standards as US albums, articles for which should not be created if no reliable sources to make a decent stub exist. Userfying seems to now be the standard approach to these crystall balled things.Yobmod (talk) 07:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.