The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 07:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit[edit]

Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Delete per WP:CBALL. Speculation about a yet-to-be-released game, that was apparently announced a week ago. The "sources" consist of a link to a (non-English) poster, and a link to a blog. Neither are WP:V or WP:RS. The article is an unmitigated mess as multiple editors insert and remove speculation and slag each other off for messing the article up. Until such time as there is anything more than fevered speculation about this game, it would be best if there were no article Mayalld (talk) 13:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep. The page has a website, pictures and a scan from shonen jump. It's pretty obvious that this will be a game, this is not Cyrstal ball information, it's been confirmed. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 13:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The fact that there will be a game is undisputed. Beyond that single fact, everything else is pure speculation. Mayalld (talk) 13:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletions. —User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 14:35, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Unfortunately, I have to agree. An article about a Shonen Jump announcement would serve as a reliable source, as would any press coverage. Until we have that, though, we can't keep the article. ZZ ^Claims ~ Evidence 19:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep There are plenty other articles regarding video games that don't have much information available at the time. Over time more information will be available and the article's author and editors could contribute and cite that information whenever it comes. ~NeonFire372~ (talk) 19:46, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is no argument Mayalld (talk) 22:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Neither is a link to a non-policy essay. Jtrainor (talk) 22:44, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep More information has been released in the latest famitsu magazine. It clearly states that the game is coming out for the Sony Playstation 3 and Microsoft Xbox360. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.55.192 (talk) 03:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep - Flaming, edit wars, and untidiness are no reason to delete an article. Simple protections and temporary blocks can straighten that out in a matter of minutes. Additionally, though I haven't been around for quite a while, I'm pretty sure a webpage set up by the game's publisher and Shonen Jump coverage (albeit just one page) must mean something as far as WP:RS and WP:V go. There may be little coverage on the game in general, but we do have enough sources at this time to prove it's not just speculation. As a final note, I would like to suggest merging if possible, but I don't think there's a page suitable for the job. If one were to be (or has already been made), I'd gladly change my comment to merge. // DecaimientoPoético 01:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Crystal ball doesn't apply - it's verifiable that it's been announced, and it would merit an article if it had been released already (it will, lamentably, sell well I don't doubt). --Gwern (contribs) 04:48 22 December 2007 (GMT)
• Keep. As stated multiple times before, the information in the Wikiarticle is no speculation, nor is it crystal ball work. The info has been gathered from an Shonen Jump article, which I would think is a reliable source. Even though this article is a stub, it shouldn't be deleted for that reason; instead try to improve the things you think are not good about the article, to make it better. -Jort227 (talk) 17:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep I second that .... SSJ 5 (talk) 04:59, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as above, WP:CRYSTAL doesn't apply here. (jarbarf) (talk) 06:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong KeepThis has to be kept because there are many people looking for some information from this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gogeta90 (talk • contribs) 12:29, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep - A trailer for the game was released December 24th, 2007. You can view it on Youtube. I think that more than proves it's coming out and should stay. Goten X (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - YouTube isn't exactly the best site to use when proving a point on Wikipedia. It's very easy to make false videos, and such a thing has been done several times before with Dragon Ball Z games. // DecaimientoPoético 22:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Yeah, but how many of those videos were even believable? Also, source. Goten X (talk) 22:40, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep. A trailer has been released on youtube, as mentioned above. Thus, confirming the game's existence. Please work on improving the article in the mean time. 216.99.53.158 (talk) 03:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.