The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. We are not an image gallery. In addition, nearly every image in nonfree, and most lack a rationale for this article. seresin ( ¡? ) 00:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Emblems of Indian States[edit]

This page is in violation of WP:NFCC as it only serves as a gallery for non-free images. ViperSnake151 12:57, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. See Flags of the U.S. states Delete I change my opinion. I just verified that the images used are non-free and not in public domain -Ravichandar _{My coffee shop} 13:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is clearly worth keeping, minus the free image issue. Indian State Emblems are non-free? Could someone point me to documentation of that? Hobit (talk) 17:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per nom -_T-rex 17:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain that? Hobit (talk) 17:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. As far as my knowledge goes, a non-profit forum aimed at educating the masses, such as Wikipedia, can use all of these images. Even if I write a book on Emblems of Indian States, I don't have to take permission from the Government for using these images. Shovon (talk) 18:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOT. Galleries of images are not articles nor should they be major parts of articles per WP:MOS. In general galleries are discouraged especially since anything that is eligible for Commons will be seen as a gallery in Commons' category view. --Dhartung | Talk 19:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, or perhaps move, but definitely do not delete. In fact, as referenced in Image:Upgovt-logo.jpg, these might be considered public domain anyway.

WP:NFCC does not preclude a collection of these images or this page. §1No free equivalent, §2Respect for commercial opportunities, §3aMinimal usage, §4Previous publication, §5Content, §6Media-specific policy (high-resloution SVGs are not in use for WP:IUP#Fair_use_considerations), §7One-article minimum, and §8Significance all hold for each image.

§9Restrictions on location is where I believe the proposal is suggesting a breach. I am planning on using each of these images until better ones are uploaded on ISO 3166-2:IN#Codes and States and territories of India#States_and_Territories. If those images remain in place, it would abrogate the need for this page as a gallery. This page should however be worked upon to explain the history of each image, with the mythos behind each animal, plant, or symbol depicted as well as the emblems history of usage (royal seals, etc.) and their history of development; not deleted.

§3bMinimal extent of use nears breach in Image:Karnataka emblem.png at 181 KB with several colours and clear text but as long as we keep away from its 1.21 MB version, we should be fine. None of these are SVGs and many are under 50 KB and near monochrome. §10Image description page is met exemplarily in Image:Arunachalseal.jpg but Image:Goaseal.png, Image:GUJARATSEAL.jpg, Image:Jharkhandseal.png, Image:Sikkimseal.png could do with some work. :)--Thecurran (talk) 11:05, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just added the kind of text about Karnataka's emblem that might make it more encyclopædic. More can be researched about the others and added. :)--Thecurran (talk) 12:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Images appear to be free, and thus the nom's concerns appear unfounded. Hobit (talk) 14:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep: All these images are already used in pages of individual states. This page now looks like a gallery, but once description about each of them is added, like the text on Karnataka emblem present in the page, it may very well be close to a featured list. --GDibyendu (talk) 04:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.