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The result was delete. WP:TNT. Opabinia regalis (talk) 06:30, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Filipino portrayals in American media[edit]

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To be clear, the article topic itself is possibly suitable for a stand-alone article. But the current version is just a personal reflection (fails WP:OR and WP:NPOV, tagged since 2010, still orphan), based on one particular incident with Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao. While the article has some sources, they are often not used to verify the article's content, but to illustrate the author's conclusions. Other claims are speculative or unsourced. GermanJoe (talk) 22:01, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:17, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment this is not my final judgement whether the subject is notable or not, but the first thing that comes to mind is WP:NOTCLEANUP. Let me see what reliable sources come up, and whether WP:NOTESSAY or whether the subject does not meet notability or not.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:19, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The topic appears in several sources:

Oreiro, Brandon Napenias (June 18, 2014). Overcoming Panethnicity: Filipino-American Identity in a Globalized Culture (Global Honors). University of Washington, Tacoma. Retrieved 17 June 2015.
Joaquin Jay Gonzalez (1 February 2009). Filipino American Faith in Action: Immigration, Religion, and Civic Engagement. NYU Press. p. 8. ISBN 978-0-8147-3297-7.
Allan Punzalan Isaac (2006). American Tropics: Articulating Filipino America. University of Minnesota Press. p. 18. ISBN 978-1-4529-0905-9.
M. Evelina Galang; Eileen Tabios (1 January 2003). Screaming Monkeys: Critiques of Asian American Images. Coffee House Press. p. 87. ISBN 978-1-56689-141-7.

Makes me believe that there is something here. Does this article need work? Surely, but is it so bad that it warrants WP:TNT? That is debatable. Therefore, I am making my opinion Weak Keep or redirect to Filipino American#Culture.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a POV rant, with references, an essay about the ideas of the writer. Time for it to go. Tapered (talk) 23:19, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The topic could fall under Minorities in American media which clearly passes WP:GNG.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:12, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It might be included in other categories also, but it's still a POV rant. Tapered (talk) 04:56, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Sadly, the article author in his POV Rant decrying how Filipinos have been negatively represented in films, acts as if he is completely unaware of films with positive portrayals... such as MacArthur (film) where they are praised as noble and trustworthy allies. Under WP:NPOV its time for WP:TNT. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 01:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete at best this is an opinion piece. It's probably better to start over. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:01, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Without looking at the article itself, is the subject notable Lenticel?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:39, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is notable. We have Category:Depictions of people in popular culture for that. I've worked with various Cultural depictions articles and I'm actually fine in helping re-create it. RightCowLeftCoast I can give you a hand if you plan on revising it. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:21, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article could be renamed, Filipinos in American popular culture or maybe just Filipinos in foreign popular culture to accomodate depiction of Filipinos in popular culture of other areas such as Japan, Europe, etc.--Hariboneagle927 (talk) 09:39, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The latter would allow for a more globalized article, and can be a template for other peoples to have articles about their portrail n foreign popular cultures. Like Americans portrayal in anime.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:18, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Being domestically partnered with a Filipino American, I see an argument to having such an article. The idea has merit, anyway. Pero ... this essay is not really a neutral article. Can this essay be userfied, merged into another article (Pinoy? Filipino_American#Stereotypes?), or placed in Articles for Creation? Deletion, please recall, should be avoided when other solutions exist. Bearian (talk) 17:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I sympathize with Bearian's wish to rescue the article or find a merger target, but this article has nothing worth merging. It is a POV rant, not even really about the title subject. There may be a Wikipedia article to be written about this subject, but this article is not it. WP:TNT --MelanieN (talk) 20:54, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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