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The result was keep. Aoidh (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Helen Willetts (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:33, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Some limited coverage [1], other stuff about her pregnancy and the like. Nothing substantial, just a working weatherperson. Oaktree b (talk) 15:58, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Radio, Television, Badminton, England, and Wales. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Award winning weather presenter. Plenty of coverage: Why it's raining success for Helen in North Wales Weekly News - Thursday 18 May 1995; PLAYING THE EMPLOYMENT GAME in South Wales Echo - Monday 25 September 1995; I'm JUST HELEN in Wales on Sunday - Sunday 05 January 1997; BBC profiles: https://www.bbc.co.uk/cymru/gogleddorllewin/enwogion/adloniant/pages/helenwilletts.shtml and https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/about/19111979 Piecesofuk (talk) 14:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Piecesofuk. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Piecesofuk. Rillington (talk) 06:19, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Piecesofuk. --Florentyna (talk) 20:37, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Fails GNG and BIO. My BEFORE showed nothing more than the promo material mentioned above.
- Source eval table:
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Reference
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| In article |
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| BBC is her employer, not IS RS |
1. "BBC Weather: Helen Willetts". Retrieved 30 September 2018.
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| Primary, school record, not SIGCOV |
2. ^ "Graduation 2007". University of Nottingham. 12 July 2007. Retrieved 15 June 2008.
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| BBC is her employer, not IS RS, not a notable award |
3. ^ "Weather Presenter Award". BBC News. 9 March 2006. Retrieved 21 January 2008.
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| Mentioned above |
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| Promo |
Why it's raining success for Helen in North Wales Weekly News - Thursday 18 May 1995;
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| Mention, not SIGCOV |
PLAYING THE EMPLOYMENT GAME in South Wales Echo - Monday 25 September 1995;
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| Autobiographical, not IS RS SIGCOV |
I'm JUST HELEN in Wales on Sunday - Sunday 05 January 1997;
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| BBC is her employer, not IS RS |
BBC profiles: [2] and [3]
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- BLPs need clearly IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notabilty to avoid abuse. // Timothy :: talk 20:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure what you mean by "Promo", it's a journalist reporting on the success of a weather presenter.
- "Mention, not SIGCOV": The subsection is completely about her: includes her photo and biographical details.
- "Autobiographical, not IS RS SIGCOV" It's a full-page feature in a national newspaper.
- "BBC is her employer, not IS RS" She was employed by the Met Office, see for example https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/met-office-loses-bbc-contract-broadcaster-gives-no-reason-for-ending-100year-relationship-10468462.html Piecesofuk (talk) 09:28, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Non-UK readers may be thinking of weather presentation being a local job, but Williams became a regular Met Office weather reporter on the BBC's most prestigious national nightly news programme - she was part of the team that took over from John Kettley and Michael Fish in 2000. A Nexis search finds various coverage of that at the time, along with a pretty good 2001 Western Mail profile of her (Charting the rise of a high-pressure career; Face to Face - Helen Willetts) and several newspaper stories from 2005 on her being the first News at 10 presenter to use 3D weather maps (plus an awful lot of non-RS tabloid commentary on her throughout her career, the least said about which the better). She's familiar to people across the UK and there seems to be at least some independent, in-depth coverage of her beyond the Met Office and BBC. Adam Sampson (talk) 12:57, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Meets WP:BIO with sources presented by Piecesofuk. They're reliable and in-depth enough IMV. SBKSPP (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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