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The result was keep. John254 01:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hiroyuki Nishimura[edit]

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The biographied person of the article, Hiroyuki Nishimura, is not a notable person besides the only fact that he created 2channel there isnt anithing valueble for him to have an enciclopedic article. Besides the fact that it's shallow in the writing it's useless information that can be stub as a section of the article of 2channel. Andres rojas22 (talk) 14:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. —DAJF (talk) 14:33, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep He has been involved in several big defamation suits over messages posted on 2ch, and has appeared in numerous major news media in Japan including AERA (Asahi), Sankei, and Yomiuri as extensively referenced on the Japanese version of the article. He is also one of the most recognizable net celebrities in Japan and is frequently interviewed for comments on various internet issues. Disregarding him because "2channel is notable, the guy that created it isn't" is as absurd as disregarding Bill Gates and Jimmy Wales by claiming that "Microsoft and Wikipedia are notable, the guys that created them aren't." I don't quite understand how one could recognize the notability of 2ch and yet fail to recognize Hiroyuki's notability. (It would be understandable if one didn't know 2ch also.) --Saintjust (talk) 14:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Im sorry but theres no possible comparation betwen this guy and Bill Gates. Since when Wikipedia meassuares notability by the amount of gossips and media references a person appears in?. Is this an encyclopedia or a wiki of pop culture?.Andres rojas22 (talk) 18:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's based quite highly on the number of media references a person appears in. If there are a lot of sources for a person, it will typically demonstrate that they're notable. matt91486 (talk) 21:02, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Notability: "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." "Pop culture" is an important aspect of the society and a worthy subject of scholarship. --Saintjust (talk) 03:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and expand The japanese article appears to have a not-insignificant number of good references, and as such what is really needed is for the japanese article content to be ported across to EN by a skilled translator LinaMishima (talk) 22:47, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - While the article does need improving with additional references, the subject amply satisfies Wikipedia:Notability given all the media coverage over the years. --DAJF (talk) 05:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, notable. Chris (クリス) (talk) 00:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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