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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of international goals scored by Robert Lewandowski[edit]

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Current consensus at WP:FOOTY is that stand-alone lists of international goals are only appropriate for footballers who are or were at some time the top scorer for their nation. Lewandowski is presently the third-highest scorer for Poland, thus this list is not yet notable. — Jkudlick ⚓ t ⚓ c ⚓ s 01:44, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - consensus is that separate list articles are needed only for players who at one time or another have been their country's all time leading scorer. Lewandowski has not yet reached that level. Fenix down (talk) 17:01, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. Giant Snowman 18:29, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per this and this afd discussions. Lewandowski is known for scoring international goals and it is better to keep it as a separate article rather than merge or delete. Inter&anthro (talk) 17:46, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - this keep vote misunderstands the deletion rationale. Both examples provided are of players who are their nation's all time leading scorer. There are currently two other Polish players who have scored more goals than Lewandowski and no indication, as required by WP:LISTN, that his goal scoring at international level as a subject overall rather than a synthesis of comments from individual match reports. Fenix down (talk) 11:49, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nope I understand the deletion rational just fine. Yet we have List of international goals scored by Neymar and List of international goals scored by Lionel Messi, neither of which are their countries respective top scorers. This articles were kept because it was deemed that the individuals were notable high scoring footballer who's statistics are also notable. Lewandowski I believe also falls into this category. The information is relevant. Inter&anthro (talk) 16:58, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that you do. Looking at the histories, for those two articles, I can't see any indication that they have ever been discussed, so not sure how you draw consensus from those. For Rooney, the AfD is clear that it was kept as he was so close to being the all time top scorer it was more effort to delete and restore than to keep and for Ibrahimovic, the article is also clear that he was the all time swedish top scorer at the time of nomination, so he is not relevant to this discussion. On the contrary, there is clear consensus in old AfDs that unless you are the all time top scorer, no matter what your reputation, there is no need for a standalone list. I draw your attention, and that of the next admin to look at closing to:

Bar Rooney for the reasons outlined above, I cannot find a single instance in the last 13 months of an AfD where the player was not at one point their nation's all time leading top scorer being closed as keep. I am not seeing you provide any evidence of GNG for this list which would result in a different conclusion being drawn. The fact that there are articles out there that have not come to AfD does not mean they are notable. Fenix down (talk) 17:31, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.