The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete as original research. However, this deletion does not prejudice the recreation of the article IF reliable, inline citation sources for the article's information can be provided. The article can also be redirected.Alabamaboy 18:17, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lyran Star Empire[edit]

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This non-notable fictional race are the subject of a long and unverifiable essay comprised of what appears to be original reasearch. --Gavin Collins 08:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to a new list of peoples of the Star Fleet Universe, along with the other such articles that have been nominated. As with all the other SFU articles, this isn't original research. Pinball22 13:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep if its guilty of anything its that its written in an in Universe style, for which there are tags as there are for lack of references re notability; it would be easier to assume good faith rather than a vendetta against all RPG topics if these curtesies were attempted. KTo288 19:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Where's the original research? This article is all based on the in-game universe. The "original research" was all done by the game designers, not the article writers. --Craw-daddy | T | 22:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Response Prove it. From which page of which book did the author derive the content of this article? I suspect this plot summary wass actually made up in school one day. --Gavin Collins 07:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I don't own any of the books, so I don't have the proof, but it seems much more likely, given that the books exist, that the information also exists as opposed to someone making it up. Pinball22 14:39, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletions. --Gavin Collins 12:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - no citations to reliable sources and no assertion of real-world notability. If there's info. out there about how the writers (and later programmers) developed the species, then that'd be great -- but, right now it's just plot summary. Perhaps shoot to Memory Beta? --EEMeltonIV 23:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Source or Delete I'm leaning toward delete unless I can see some proper references per Gavin Collins. As I've said in other AFDs I'm all for having good SF articles on Wikipedia, but I think we need to strive for accurate info. If the article improves I might change my mind, so I'm challenging the editors to try and source the article. --Torchwood Who? 07:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.