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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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All the sources appear to be fan sites, not reliable sources. One of them is nothing more than a picture of an oil can, one is someone's personal musings about the company, and the others seem to be oriented toward collectors of memorabilia. None of them demonstrate significant notability. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:48, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:59, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Confused: Here it says the NOC was sold to the Lever Group in 1914. Article has links that say it was sold to Shell Oil and then again began operating under the NOC name. Then there is a U.S. Congressional investigation [1] [2], stating NOC is a Panamanian company owned 70 percent by one of the Moncriefs. It's possible Moncrief bought it and then registered it in Panama for business reasons. Same company? —МандичкаYO 😜 08:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete simply because a solid article can't be made, this, this and this seem to confirm it was owned by "Shell of Australia". Newspapers Archive found other results (some from 1916 and 1926) such as this 1962 ad that says "One of Australia's oldest established oil companies. Books (a few of these results confirm it was sold to Lever Group), highbeam and thefreelibrary found results that weren't as fruitful. I would've suggested moving elsewhere but there's no target. SwisterTwister talk 21:40, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:41, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep According to this link, Neptune was an Australia-wide chain of petrol stations in the 1950s.[3] A few old photos are here, which says it existed as a separate brand until 1969.[4]. Also "King Neptune" was an Adelaide landmark at Darlington, South Australia, until 1991 according to these (reliable, ABC) sources.[5] [6] That's enough to make the company well known in mid-20th century popular culture, and therefore notable. Due to the era, web-based sources will be hard to find, but that doesn't mean it's not notable. A kind of similar situation to Golden Fleece Company, another defunct Australian petrol station chain, though admittedly Golden Fleece was around for longer. Further comment: lots of WP:RS hits, mainly on official archive type sites, if you restrict the google search to domains in .gov.au [7]. Adpete (talk) 06:17, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:46, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep Neptune was a notable player in the Australian oil retail industry - viz http://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=neptune+oil - falling for the google search only trick doesnt help delete arguments, trove has enough, it was a notable operator in Australian history. JarrahTree 01:31, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep on trove link provided by JarrahTree theres 82,000 articles linked, 77,000 newspaper mentions, 2000 books in Australian GLAMS... and yes there will big chunks of advertising and probably some random occurrences where neptune and oil appear in the same article but definately notably company/retailer of oil products in Australia.. Gnangarra 03:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as meeting WP:GNG. VMS Mosaic (talk) 11:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I am not seeing a majority of fan sites as references but a good mix of sources. This is an interesting historical topic for an important industry - exactly the sort of article we should have. - Shiftchange (talk) 21:30, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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