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The result was delete. the arguments for keeping are not based on Wikipedia policy DGG ( talk ) 21:17, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Turner Author/Performer[edit]

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No indication that he meets the requirements of WP:Notability either as a magician or author. The sources on him that I have been able to find indicate that he typically books clubs, weddings and parties for his magic act. No indication that he has appeared on any major media. Unexplained PROD decline by an IP who likely is the page author. Delete. Safiel (talk) 14:33, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

dont delete For the person who has flagged this for delete, all you have to do is follow any link provided in the description (as reference of proof of authorship). Have you any background knowledge in this subject? He PUBLISHED a book with KENTON KNEPPER (That is one of the biggest names in the mentalism industry) Secondly he is currently working with a production company in regards to promoting a television series called the perceptionist. He performs INTERNATIONALLY and his well respected amongst his peers (just read the references also provided in the article). Also there is AN AUTHORS page in one of the LINKS in the article...Whoever flagged this should at least follow some of the links provided as reference. All the Ip addresses can be checked, and you can personally check mine (I also have no affiliation with Mr.Turner other than the fact I am a fan of his material). I also believe he has consulted for several of the best minds in the industry and DESERVES a place on wikipedia for his internet notoriety! Please learn more about the background and nature of a subject and person before flagging thanks.-----Rebecca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.205.89 (talk) 11:51, August 23, 2011 (UTC-5) — 2.28.205.89 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
P>S I think there has been some confusion haha you have found another magician named mr GEE (also named peter turner) SEARCH PETER TURNER MIND READER OR PETER TURNER MENTALIST (He is a mentalist NOT a magician) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.205.89 (talk) 11:56, August 23, 2011 (UTC-5) — 2.28.205.89 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per our guidelines on biographies of living persons, and authors and entertainers in particular. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 19:09, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as above Jimfbleak - talk to me? 20:12, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Notability not demonstrated by significant coverage in reliable sources; creator demonstrates in his comment that he is unfamiliar with the notability and RS guidelines (publishing - or PUBLISHING - a book does not make you notable, and internet forums are not reliable reviews). –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:25, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Magic-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 14:01, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The notion that the subject is meets notability standards, as discussed above, is an example of magical thinking. Bella the Ball (talk) 22:12, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Yikes. :) Yes. Definitely not notable. --User:Woohookitty ^{Disamming fool!} 05:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. How can forums not be a reliable source? They are the peoples say and word (isn't that the same as wikipedia?), I am sorry but how many of you have published work? toured many countries performing a craft (I am not picking on anyone individually) Turner has lots of notoriety in magazines and on the web (doesn't internet notoriety count). He is a fantastic psychologist/behaviorist and has consulted for several of the best minds (also referencable)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airethementalist (talk • contribs) 06:18, August 30, 2011 (UTC-5) — Airethementalist (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

DO NOT DELETE - My name is Chris Lee 'international hypnotist appeared on several televisions shows'. I watched Peter Turner give a lecture to a couple of hundred magicians/performers and hypnotists back in 2009 he was fantastic. His literature on Dual reality and mentalism is some of the best I have EVER read, 'Wikipedia the peoples encyclopedia' If the people want this to stay I don't see the position some people are coming from. I admit the article needs cleaning up, which I shall take a look at as it is not incorrect but doesn't fully state what he does. He has worked and consulted for lots of people - me being one. His knowledge and fanbase in the industry is second to none - I am a 45 year old man, his knowledge far surpasses my own and I have done this professionally for 20 years - my background can be referenced. I think this should stay 30.08.11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisleehypnotist (talk • contribs) 06:40, August 30, 2011 (UTC-5) — Chrisleehypnotist (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Stay If anybody needs a referable source, http://www.daisybeckproductions.co.uk/ here is the production company Peter Turner is working with I am sure if you contact Paul Stead he would happily give reference. I am one of Turner's previous students and wish to remain anonymous as we had a disagreement. None the less fantastic performer and writer and should be allowed to stay. User:produce12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Produce12 (talk • contribs) 07:14, August 30, 2011 (UTC-5) — Produce12 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Rebecca here again, I emailed peter Peterturnermind@hotmail.co.uk . He has informed me the reason several videos/websites have been removed is because of an agreement he signed with a production company. @Chris Great edit (will round up some troops from the forums I think they might want to hear of this debate.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.203.189 (talk) 07:25, August 30, 2011 (UTC-5) — 2.28.203.189 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

P>S I placed before some of the posts so people can see who is for and who is against as I noticed I had not done so! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.203.189 (talk) 09:53, August 30, 2011 (UTC-5) — 2.28.203.189 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

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