The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete (speedy). The subject of this article is a fictional school within a play which already went through AfD and has been found to not meet the notability requirements; I am therefore speedying this page as a form of recreation of a deleted page. Thanks --Neutrality^talk 19:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pigfarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry[edit]

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~~Disputed PROD. This is a plot-only description of a fictional place. Singularity42 (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

As a result of recent changes to the article, I am changing my reason for nomination, but I am still nominating this article for deletion. The reason I am nominating this article for deletion is that this is a fictional place from a play that was deleted following a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Very Potter Musical, and endorsed at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 January 14. If the play was not notable, then the fictional locations in the play are not notable either. Also, as per comments below, this comes awfully close to WP:CFORK in relation to the deleted page. Singularity42 (talk) 03:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(The following !vote has been copied from various other talk pages, and re-formatted to display the !vote correct, in order the author of the article who is a new editor.)

Keep The page on Pigfarts may be a description of a fictional place, but so is the page on Hogwarts. Both are fictional, so both should have their own pages. It is not a strictly plot description, as information on the professors, location, and means of transportation have been provided. I included information given in A Very Potter Musical, and described all that is known about Pigfarts. I don't see what is "plot-only" about it, so if you could please explain that would be delightful. RedVinesFTW (talk) 20:44, 23 June 2011 (UTC) REDVINESFTW[reply]

Hi there, RedVines. Two points:

The deletion discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pigfarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, so you should really join the discussion there.
This is clearly just a lengthy plot-description of this fictional place. WP:OTHERSTUFF is not a helpful argument. Singularity42 (talk) 20:55, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I thought I had responded here. But, you have still not pointed out what exactly is a "plot-description" of it. Repeating the fact that it is is not very helpful. I see that there are maybe one or two things in it that could be considered strictly plot, but the rest is actually a description of the school. The joke about Harry Potter and his money would be one of those things, and I can easily take that out. The other that may qualify is where I said that Draco and Luna talked about transferring to Pigfarts, but that is information on the student body. So, if you could actually explain why you consider it a lengthy plot description, that would be a bit more helpful. RedVinesFTW (talk) 21:01, 23 June 2011 (UTC)REDVINESFTW[reply]

99.9% of this article reads as if this is a real school - i.e. this article seems to exist in the same fictional world of the school, rather than being about the piece of fiction. That is what is meant by WP:PLOT. I would also point out that a location from a somewhat non-notable play should probably not have its own article. Singularity42 (talk) 21:09, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Non-Notable, possible also encroaching upon WP:FORK. -OberRanks (talk) 21:39, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete obviously. Something in a musical which has alreadt been deemed non-notable. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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