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The result was delete. --Core desat 04:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ron-Robert Zieler[edit]

The subject does not meet the notability criteria laid down in WP:BIO, i.e. he has not played in a fully professional league or competition. PeeJay 15:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nomintating the following pages for the same reason:

Delete all - as per nomination. Youth and reserve players are not notable. - fchd 16:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. Yes, none of these fulfil WP:BIO at the present time but should any at some in the future make the first-team and play in a fully professional league, do bring the article back. --Malcolmxl5 19:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it, I've saved all of the articles in TXT documents on my computer for when any of them make an appearance in the first team. - PeeJay 20:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, Peejay! --Malcolmxl5 22:29, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all Have not played in a fully-professional league. Number 5 7 20:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 23:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Zieler (he was in the squad for Man Utd during the Champions League last season and given a squad number, and also he is first-choice for Germany's U-18 team, which means it is possible to find verifiable third-party sources), Wolff Eikrem (somewhat notable in Norway, for example there was an article in Aftenposten about his transfer). Delete others. ugen64 02:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Although Zieler was given a squad number last season, he has not been given one yet this year, and he hasn't made a first team appearance either. Eikrem is barely notable for the circumstances of his transfer to United, but he has done very little since, apart from playing in a pre-season friendly this year. - PeeJay 08:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just because a player hasn't done anything notable this season (it's only been less than a month - Mark Randall does not have a squad number yet either... nor does Fran Merida...) doesn't mean he is completely not notable. It is quite possible to find verifiable sources about Zieler - for example this article at ARD's website. ugen64 01:23, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.