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The result was merge to 2022–23 Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final#Junior. as an ATD. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:43, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sophia Baram[edit]

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Was deprodded with the rationale, "Baram does meet notability guidelines according to WP:NSKATE. She is an ISU Junior Grand Prix Final medalist." However, NSKATE says, in reference to Junior skaters, "Have won a medal at an international senior-level event or the World Junior Figure Skating Championships". In looking at World Junior Figure Skating Championships, that does not appear to be the same thing as the ISU Junior Grand Prix. Therefore, meets neither WP:GNG or WP:NSKATE. If those two article regarding the World Juniors and Junior Grand Prix are actually duplicate articles, please ping me and I'll speedily close this. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, and California. —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 05:17, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. ZERO coverage in ProQuest as "Sophia" but "Sonia Baram" returns more results! Could this be a naming problem? (Have added the alternate name to the lede; it was only in the infobox.) Cielquiparle (talk) 19:39, 12 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 02:34, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. Sophia registers her name as Sophia with the International Skating Union, hence the use of it in this article as it is her full name. Sonia is her nickname, but she appears to go by it more often and registers it as her name with U.S. Figure Skating. That is where the discrepancy lies. Clemkr (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Are you aware of any secondary sources that could help to establish notability? Cielquiparle (talk) 00:04, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:28, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Sophia as well as her partner Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Tioumentsev are both nominated for AFD. I would think national champion would be sufficient for WP:GNG. No? Jtbobwaysf (talk) 03:06, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Actually, no, it's not. They won the junior nationals. That doesn't meet WP:NSKATE, as was said in the nom. You'd be correct if they had won the senior event. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:19, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment They are ISU medalists at the World Junior Grand Prix Final and national champions. I think a wiki page is just about warranted. BabyCandle (talk) 03:20, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to 2022–23 Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final#Junior. She is noted there, so merging is acceptable.`~HelpingWorld~` ^(👽🛸) 22:20, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.