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The result was keep. Renaming/moving can be done through normal editorial process Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:48, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stockland Traralgon[edit]

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I found absolutely no coverage of this shopping mall. [1] Till I Go Home (talk) 09:15, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and rename: More common name is "Traralgon Shopping ~~Centre~~ Plaza". Several news references:

Incidental mentions:

Radio's shifting stars to enjoy station views in The Age

Bean there, paid for that in Herald Sun

A gallery of good ideas, Herald Sun (Melbourne, Australia) - Thursday, August 12, 2010, Author: Claire Heaney, Edition: 1 - FIRST, Section: BUSINESSSE, Page: 075

In Brief, Leader - Moonee Valley Gazette (Melbourne, Australia) - Monday, August 2, 2010, Edition: 1 - MV, Section: News, Page: 011

Leading role in region's rebirth, Herald Sun (Melbourne, Australia) - Thursday, July 29, 2010, Author: Claire Heaney, Edition: 1 - FIRST, Section: BUSINESSSE, Page: 065

Our cover stars, Herald Sun (Melbourne, Australia) - Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Edition: 1 - FIRST, Section: ENERGISE ENTERPRISE, Page: N03

Coastal getaway her pride and Joy, Herald Sun (Melbourne, Australia) - Thursday, July 8, 2010, Author: Claire Heaney, Edition: 1 - FIRST, Section: BUSINESSSE, Page: 063

QUICK PICK, Herald Sun (Melbourne, Australia) - Tuesday, December 2, 2008, Edition: 1 - FIRST, Section: BUSINESS, Page: 058

Bashed man critical - ASSAULT, Age, The (Melbourne, Australia) - Monday, January 17, 2011, Edition: First, Section: News, Page: 6

AAP News: VIC:Man fights for life after assault, AAP News (Australia) - Sunday, January 16, 2011, Provided By: Financial Times Limited - Asia Africa Intelligence Wire, Index Terms: Crimes ; General News ; Justice Public Order & Safety Activities, Lessors of Nonresidential Buildings exc ; Miniwarehouse ; Lessors of Real Estate ; Police Protection ; Postal Service ; Public Admin ; Real Estate ; Real Estate & Rental & Leasing ; Transportation & Warehousing, Location(s): Australia Australasia

Property group is cashed up and itching to play - Xchange, Sydney Morning Herald, The (Australia) - Thursday, April 17, 2008, Author: Edited by Danny John, Edition: First, Section: Business, Page: 28

New owner in centre swap, Leader - Doncaster Templestowe (Melbourne, Australia) - Wednesday, August 25, 2004, Author: Monique Bouma, Edition: 1, Section: News, Page: 003

Stockland to redevelop Tooronga Village shopping centre, Age, The (Melbourne, Australia) - Tuesday, August 3, 2004, Author: Fleur Leyden, Edition: First, Section: Business, Page: 1

The first mention puts the shopping mall as existing during the 1980s, which suggests sources probably exist offline from that period that are not easily accessible online. The history is something brought up in a several other sources that mention the centre. There is a major problem of sources that can be used to prove WP:GNG being only available offline, and thus we're left to find sources that suggest if we went to those offline sources they would exist. The above adequately do that in my opinion. --LauraHale (talk) 19:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per LauraHale's results on sources, many more are highly likely to be offline and not viewable via any search site. Bidgee (talk) 22:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per LauraHale. Sb617 (Talk) 00:58, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In-depth sources are pretty difficult to find for this shopping centre. However when after I created the page for Mid Valley Shopping Centre (15 kms away) I visited Morwell library and read up a lot about the opening in back issues of The Express newspaper. I intend to go there again sometime to do more research, and I'll make a note to look up more about Traralgon Shopping Centre/Plaza (actually I read the local name a lot as Traralgon Plaza, and therefore don't support a rename to Traralgon Shopping Centre). Brionnach (talk) 15:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I live near-ish to Traralgon and this is a pretty run-of-the-mill shopping centre, but if it meets the GNG then I see no harm in keeping it. On the issue of the title, "Traralgon Centre Plaza" is definitely the common name (though most locals just call it "the Plaza") – if the Latrobe Valley Express was online this would be very easy to prove. Jenks24 (talk) 13:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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