The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus (4 keep, 1 delete, 2 merge). Robert 23:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Freda[edit]

Non-notable. Delete --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 02:49, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: This page was deleted for some unknown reason, and was recreated by Spinboy. I've restored it to its original undeleted version. --Blackcap | talk 22:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

FURTHER NOTE: The admin responsible was Snowspinner. Please see WP:ANI#Large scale AfD unlisting for details. --Blackcap | talk 22:31, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per my argument at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pierre L. J. Vincent. --Blackcap | talk 06:18, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• • Semi large? It's not that large. --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 06:26, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• As above. Depends whether the organisation is notable or not. If it is, these two need to be kept. The Land 11:33, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• • They've been in the news recently, at least the organization, due to the new Governor General of Canada. That being said, they aren't as big an organization as the Canadian Federation of Taxpayers for example. They're just a small blip on the Canadian spectrum. --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 16:21, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• • • Actually, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, despite its name, has only ten voting members so I suspect the CCR is actually "bigger" if not as well funded. Homey 01:13, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. I guess you could categorise them as a major Canadian republican body, in that they seem to be prominent within the very small Canadian republican movement. They do get some google news hits. Pburka 16:00, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge into Citizens for a Canadian Republic. Unlike Pierre L. J. Vincent, Tom has no notability out of the CfaCR. -- Corvus 18:25, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• • Mmmmm... good point. However, if the organization is considered significant, he may warrant his own article. Depends: m:eventualism vs. m:mergism. I think I'll stick to my original vote for now, though. --Blackcap | talk 18:29, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Merege as per User:Corvus. Seems to have no sepeerate notability -- at least none is asserted in the articel as it stands. DES ^(talk) 20:36, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - he's regularly interviewed by radio and tv and quoted in newspapers, particularly when there's a royal visit as well as on or around Victoria Day for the past few years. If John Aimers (of whom it can be said has no notability outside of the Monarchist League of Canada) merits an article, so does Freda. Homey 01:09, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - He's a co-founder of Canada's first republican movement (an achievement in its own right), their main anglo spokesperson, and as Homey just mentioned, he regularly speaks on behalf of organized Canadian republicans in the media. And again, if the head of their monarchist counterpart deserves a page, so should the head of the republicans. As far as the significance of the organization is concerned, they recently formed a strategic alliance with the republican movements of Austrailia, NZ and UK. So not only are they recognized in Canada as the voice of Canadian republicans, but also internationally. I think it's obvious what's happening here. The attempts to delete this page are coming from monarchists who will do anything to sabotage the republican movement. I hope admin will see through these attepmts for what they are - vandalism. MC Rufus 01:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• (vote actually by Olaf 2, forging MC Rufus's signature.) Robert 23:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• No, the vote wasn't forged. My roommate forgot to log out and I had assumed I still was. My apologies MC Rufus 11:02, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.