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Category:Captives held in "the salt pit"

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to Category:Prisoners and detainees held in the Salt Pit. Either "captives" or "P&d" could probably have worked, so as mentioned we may as well go with matching this to the ultimate parent Category:Prisoners and detainees. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Captives held in "the salt pit" to Category:Captives held in The Salt Pit Category:Captives held in the Salt Pit
Nominator's rationale: Rename. To match name of lead article. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Behavioral methods of birth control

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Behavioral methods of birth control (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. The category was emptied on 11 July by Lyrl (talk · contribs), who moved all of its subcategories up the tree to Category:Methods of birth control, then waited a few days and tagged this with ((db-catempty)) on 17 July. I am nominating it here for discussion of whether this out-of-process upmerge was appropriate. R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
For reference, the previous contents of this category were the categories Fertility tracking and Sexual abstinence, and the articles Coitus interruptus, Lactational amenorrhea method, and Non-penetrative sex.
I believed I was acting within Wikipedia guidelines, especially considering the small size of the category and the lack of any opposition from other editors who watch the category and articles. If I was mistaken in this, however, I apologize. LyrlTalk C 20:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If this category is kept, for consistency should the categories for technology-based methods (Barrier contraception, Hormonal contraception, Intrauterine contraception, Spermicide, and Sterilization) be moved down the tree into a Category:Artificial birth control methods?
Category:Methods of birth control is small; having all the sub-cats directly in it does not result in clutter. On the other hand, making several levels of small categories makes navigating to a desired article more difficult. This is especially true when category names are made up by Wikipedians and not drawn from established usage: if someone were looking for articles on fertility awareness, it is not immediately obvious that they need to navigate to a category "behavioral methods". LyrlTalk C 21:17, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment on renaming - A Google search for natural birth control returns 15 of the top 20 hits (excluding Wikipedia) that define natural birth control exclusively as fertility awareness. None of the other four articles and categories that were under "behavioral" are included in the definition. This includes two books titled "natural birth control" [1] [2] and one book subtitled "the definitive guide to natural birth control" [3]
Of the remaining five results, three are more expansive in their definition that this Wikipedia category was. One page calls cervical caps "natural birth control" [4], one is about a brand of the pill that is marketing itself as "natural birth control" [5], and one discusses lemon juice, vitamin C, and Queen Anne's lace [6]
Out of twenty results, only two about.com pages ([7][8]} use the same definition of "natural birth control" that is being proposed here. Like the current name "behavioral methods", "natural birth control" is not a term normally used to describe the methods that were in this category. Putting them in an obscurely named category effectively hides them from readers who can't figure out the code. LyrlTalk C 11:02, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Defunct schools in Norfolk County, Ontario

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The result of the discussion was: Speedy Delete as empty. --Xdamrtalk 00:52, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Defunct schools in Norfolk County, Ontario (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Category consists solely of non-notable, defunct, elementary schools. Crusio (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • But you haven't merged them, as there is no info in the target document other than the name of the defunct school. (There were 8 articles in the category.) The use of the category is the same as it was before - it will lead a reader via the category system to info about a school. See WP:categorizing redirects. Occuli (talk) 19:44, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ethical banks

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:20, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Ethical banks (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete - no objective standard as to what constitutes an "ethical bank". Otto4711 (talk) 15:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ethical banking offers at least three different subjective standards as to what constitutes "ethics" and "ethical banking". Shall we accept John Stuart Mill's definition? Kant's? Aristotle's? Someone else's? On what basis? Otto4711 (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • We accept as usual reliable sources which refer to the particular bank's ethical stance, such as this one which took me about 5 seconds to find. (Perhaps this is unknown in the US.) Occuli (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Anti-Catholicism in film

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:21, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Anti-Catholicism in film (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Category:Anti-Christianity in film (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Delete - appears to be a POV category designed to capture any film that an editor feels contains a negative portrayal of some aspect or another of Catholicism. I have not read every article in the category, but a sampling of them finds no mention of any sort of anti-Catholic motivation on the part of the filmmakers and many make no mention of Catholicism at all. Otto4711 (talk) 14:54, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added the parent cat, as it has the same issues. Otto4711 (talk) 17:38, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wrongly accused terrorism suspects

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The result of the discussion was: Rename:
--Xdamrtalk 20:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Wrongly accused terrorism suspects to Category:something
Propose renaming Category:Wrongly accused criminals to Category:something
Propose renaming Category:Wrongly accused spies to Category:something
Nominator's rationale: Rename - maybe it's just me, but the construction "wrongly accused Foos" sounds like the person is a Foo who was accused of something he didn't do. Perhaps "People wrongly accused of fooing" would be better. Or, given the general disfavor for categories based on allegations or accusations, it may be better to nip this structure now while it's small. Otto4711 (talk) 14:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dunaújváros FC players

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The result of the discussion was: Merge Category:Dunaújváros FC footballers to Category:Dunaújváros FC players. Convention for players-by-club is to use 'players' not 'footballers'. Advise nomination of the remainder of Category:Footballers in Hungary by club iot eliminate this quirk. --Xdamrtalk 20:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest merging Category:Dunaújváros FC players to Category:Dunaújváros FC footballers
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Categories with the same content. Geregen2 (talk) 14:23, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We do in general, but Category:Footballers in Hungary by club seems to mostly use 'footballers' for whatever reason specific to Hungary. Maybe that was just a quirk/mistake of the person who created all those categories originally, but now that they're there, might as well keep it consistent for that country. Unless there's a volunteer to rename them all to 'players'. Karaboom (talk) 17:40, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Channel 73 digital TV stations in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:22, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Channel 73 digital TV stations in the United States (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Channel 73 has not existed in the United States since 1983, and will not exist in the digital era. Created for K08OU-D, which broadcasts on Channel 8, not Channel 73. Nate (chatter) 10:26, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Permanent Representatives to the UN

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming:
Extended content
Category:Angolan ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Angola to the United Nations
Category:Australian ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Australia to the United Nations
Category:British ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of the United Kingdom to the United Nations
Category:Canadian ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Canada to the United Nations
Category:Chilean ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Chile to the United Nations
Category:Colombian ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Colombia to the United Nations
Category:French ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of France to the United Nations
Category:Iranian ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Iran to the United Nations
Category:Israeli ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Israel to the United Nations
Category:Italian ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Italy to the United Nations
Category:Kazakhstani ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Kazakhstan to the United Nations
Category:Russian ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Russia to the United Nations
Category:Soviet ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of the Soviet Union to the United Nations
Category:Sudanese ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Sudan to the United Nations
Category:United States ambassadors to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of the United States to the United Nations
Category:Ambassadors of Guyana to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Guyana to the United Nations
Category:Ambassadors of India to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of India to the United Nations
Category:Ambassadors of Panama to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Panama to the United Nations
Category:Ambassadors of Syria to the United Nations to Category:Permanent Representatives of Syria to the United Nations
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Follow-up proposal to this rename. In summary: officially, all "ambassadors" to the UN are "Permanent Representatives", since ambassadors are sent only to heads of state, and PRs are sent to international organizations. This is complicated a bit by the fact that a few countries actually use "ambassador" in referring to their PR at the UN (b/c UN PRs often have ambassador-level status), even though the UN doesn't use or accept that terminology. (For example, the "official" name for the U.S. PR is Permanent Representative of the United States of America to the United Nations, with the rank and status of Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary, and Representative of the United States of America in the Security Council of the United Nations. Wouldn't that make a sweet category name!) However, I think standardization in this regard would be helpful, and the parent is now Category:Permanent Representatives to the United Nations. Finally, in past CfDs the preference has been for "Ambassadors of FOO to GOO" (since an ambassador of FOO can actually be of a non-FOOian nationality), so I suggest adopting that same format for PRs and to match the other subcategories of Category:Permanent Representatives to the United Nations. Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:06, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Solange categories

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Expand to match parent article, Solange Knowles. — Σxplicit 05:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Kennedy School, Harvard subcategories

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:Kennedy School, Harvard people to Category:John F. Kennedy School of Government people
Category:Kennedy School, Harvard alumni to Category:John F. Kennedy School of Government alumni
Category:Kennedy School, Harvard faculty to Category:John F. Kennedy School of Government faculty
Category:Kennedy School, Harvard staff to Category:John F. Kennedy School of Government staff
Category:Kennedy School, Harvard deans to Category:John F. Kennedy School of Government deans
Nominator's rationale: Rename for conformance with its parent category, according to this past CfD discussion. Eastlaw talk ⁄ contribs 02:11, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:International court judges

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Propose renaming Category:International court judges to Category:International court and tribunal judges
Nominator's rationale: Rename. This is a follow up to this nomination. Propose renaming this one to match its parent Category:International courts and tribunals and its sister Category:International court and tribunal prosecutors, since many of these are/were tribunals (ad hoc and temporary) rather than courts (permanent institutions). I think it's useful to keep them together, though, as long as the name is inclusive. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:30, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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