The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 17 November 2020 [1].
This article is about a Yugoslav destroyer with a very short career. Commissioned in August 1939, just prior to the outbreak of WWII, she was about to be captured by the Italians during the April 1941 Axis invasion of Yugoslavia when two of her junior officers scuttled her instead, killing themselves in the explosion. A French film was made in 1967 about her demise and the deaths of the two officers. In 1973, on the thirtieth anniversary of the formation of the Yugoslav Navy, both men were posthumously awarded the Order of the People's Hero by wartime Partisan leader and President Josip Broz Tito. Her sister Beograd and the class article have already been through FAC, and I think I've integrated comments made during those FACs into the current article, so hopefully most of the wrinkles will have been ironed out. The promotion of this article will bring the 36-article Good Topic Ships of the Royal Yugoslav Navy tantalisingly close to being promoted to Featured. Have at it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:38, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
I'll take a look. Might be claimed for the WikiCup. Hog Farm Bacon 18:08, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
That's all from me, I think. Willing to discuss any/all of these; I suspect some of the points I query related to information that just isn't recorded. Hog Farm Bacon 18:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Resolved, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
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Pls ping me after Hogfarm’s excellent points are addressed, and I will look in. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:11, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
This is a very fine article. You may ignore my nits, but I'm picking at things that make for harder reading for a layperson; one goal is to engage a broader readership. Some of these questions are amazingly dumb; that's why I'm here :) Can we mention the name of the film in the lead? The first thing I did was go looking for it, to see if I could easily watch this film, which sounds interesting. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:33, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
The first paragraph of the lead is two long sentences. Reader interest can be held by varying sentence length. Maybe cut the second sentence in two, since it deals with two different subjects? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:33, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
I am lost on why three ships constitute a half-flotilla. Is a flotilla always six ships by definition? Do I find that in a wikilink?
Should there be a hyphen between 120 and mm? Or can the whole thing be simplified by re-casting the sentence? There's a lot going on here, in terms of stringing together a lot of stuff understood to ship and armament people, but maybe not the rest of us, and that sort of thing tends to make the eyes of non-military people glaze over:
or possibly ...
Several pieces of my suggestion may need to be ignored, because, Dummy 101. I leave it to you, but you get the idea. Less information in one long sentence, split out some of the numbers to different sentences. Realize that laypeople are having to click out to understand certain concepts. Maybe that's OK ... up to you. Part of what an encyclopedia does is teach readers new vocabulary and concepts, but not too much in one sentence ;) Now here, we have similar, and again, you may to decide to ignore me, but to engage the layperson, take this into account.
At first, I thought Parsons-geared was a compound modifier of steam turbines, but missing a hyphen. So, after clicking on Parsons, I found it is a company, and wonder if this means they manufactured, licensed, designed (what?) the turbines, so maybe that part can be split to a separate thought (as above with Skoda). Next I had to figure out what a "geared" steam turbine is. When I go to the steam turbine article, I find that geared stands in contrast to direct drive, but while the article has a section on direct drive, I have to deduce that the others are geared. OK, so all of this is understood to all of you all, but this is the kind of stuff where the layperson gets tangled up and stops reading :) Do we need to explain geared vs. direct drive at the steam turbine article? Do we need a footnote in this article to explain the distinction? Or am I dumber than the average reader? (I just play an engineer on the Internet.)
Now, in the lead:
I'm not convinced by the wording "due to". It seems that either "because" or "when" may work better. And I think the sentence may be laboring under the need to work in the Wikilinks. Yugoslavia entered WWII in April 1941 when the Axis powers, led by Germany, invaded. Then is, "during the invasion" redundant?
It's a fine article; if you decide to ignore all of this, I will not object. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:33, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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My queries (not really concerns) are resolved. I hope to be able to find time to return for a more solid read so I can support, but no promises! At any rate, the prose is competent and understandable to a layperson. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
In the early 1930s, the Royal Yugoslav Navy (Serbo-Croatian: Kraljevska mornarica; ...I think we can trust that this will be fixed eventually, when Jo-Jo is back online. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:17, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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but if it's unclear that it's needed I'd like to see a consensus that the italics are inappropriate here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 21:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Only image is freely licensed (t · c) buidhe 00:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
I looked at this for ACR. Let's see if I can find anything else to nit pick at.
And that's all I have. Good work. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:26, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Greetings PM - a few minor suggestions/comments. Pendright (talk) 22:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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Career
Finished - Pendright (talk) 22:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Largely a placeholder until tomorrow, but a couple of questions:
Further comments on sources
Spot checks
@FAC coordinators: this now has three supports, image and source reviews, and SandyGeorgia (a non-Milhist member) has had a look, along with two more editors. Looks pretty much good to go. Could I please have a dispensation for a fresh nom? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)