Attempts to preempt a speedy deletion review by admin through the use of single purpose accounts. Edits of socks pattern the content covered by the article Glenn Rosewall, a CEO of the BBY Group and the subject of the suspicious activity revolving around the gaming of the speedy deletion process. [1][2][3][4]
Synchronism (talk) 07:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
TTrevor, my real name and not a 'sock puppet' for someone else - is a genuine supporter of the page for Glenn Rosewall. I know of the page for Glenn Rosewall and was looking at it, when I noticed that it was nominated for speedy deletion. I do not believe it should be speedily deleted. It is my personal and professional opinion that Glenn Rosewall is a notable public figure. I have seen his comments in a variety of newspapers and this is what I wrote in my 'discussion' section of the page. I am now being accused as a sock puppet for another person, however I AM NOT a sock puppet. I did not previously have an account, so I could not make the comments necessary to add to the discussion on Glenn Rosewall. I knew that Ansonrosew was creating the page, and I supported the creation of the page, as do many others who have heard about it. This is an unfair accusation of sock puppetery, and it totally untrue and unfounded. I deleted the item around speedy deletion, as I thought it was also unfair. This is not 'gaming'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TTrevor (talk • contribs) 07:47, 14 January 2009
My name is Anson Rosewall and for the past three days I have been working on the 'BBY Group' and 'Glenn Rosewall' (who is CEO of BBY) wikipedia articles. I am not a sock puppet. I have edited both articles using my account and on the IP Address 192.83.119.34 and 58.173.8.36. It was not my intent to commit any acts as a Sock Puppet by making revisions on my user account and my work and home IP addresses (I simply just didn’t login to my account on occasion at home and at work to make revisions- thats not a crime!). Furthermore, Tereasa Trevor (txt@bby.com.au) , is a colleague of mine and she knows Glenn Rosewall and supports the creation of his page. Just because she expressed her thoughts on the 'Glenn Rosewall' discussion page, which happened to consist with my own, doesn’t mean that her or I are sock puppets. Trevor was the last person to delete the speedy delection request on his page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ansonrosew (talk • contribs) 08:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Is this over yet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ansonrosew (talk • contribs) 01:29, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Also User:Burly jose's account was created at 11.09 UTC and its sole edit is in defence of the article nominated for speedy deletion. BencherliteTalk 13:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Clerk note: imported from Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Ansonrosew -- lucasbfr talk 22:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Inconclusive This is a slightly messy case, because there is a chunk of WP:COI muddying the waters. Ansonrosew would appear to be a relative of the subject (son?), and also works for him. Further it is clear that TTrevor, is an employee of the subject. Both have a conflict of interest. It would be fruitless to speculate the extent to which the bosses son might exert an undue influence over an employee to collude on such an article, and it is always a grey area as to where the line between common purpose and meat puppetry lies. I accept the explanation for the IP edits as being reasonable. I think it
Possible that Burly jose is a sock of on or the other (per WP:DUCK), but it was a single edit, and I suspect that we will hear no more from that account. Both parties would be well advised to steer clear of this article in future on account of their COI. Continuing to co-operate on this article in particular would make it increasingly difficult to continue to accept that the co-operation falls on the right side of the meatpuppet line. Mayalld (talk) 20:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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Mayalld (talk) 20:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Edits to Glenn Rosewall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) indicate a sockpuppet of previously suspected sockpuppetuser Ansonrosew. Editor has admitted connection to Ansonrosew and potential conflict of interest. [6]
Other indications [of possible sockpuppettry notwithstanding admissions of meatpuppettry] include similar edits to to BBY Ltd and cut and paste page moves[7] regarding Glenn Rosewall and Glenn A. Rosewall which are similar to chaotic cut and paste page moves[8] made by User:Ansonrosew at BBY Ltd that resulted in a history merge.[9] During this confusing period, Zip1010 ceased editing (until recently) and Ansonrosew began editing for more or less the same purpose as Zip1010. Synchronism (talk) 07:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC) (modified Synchronism (talk) 02:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC))
Clerk declined: No CU necessary, no evidence of sockpuppetry presented. Meatpuppetry isn't a CU matter, but a patrolling admin may decide to issue a warning or other remedy. Leaving this open for that purpose. Avruch T 01:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Clerk declined There is, indeed, some question as to whether sockpuppetry or meatpuppetry is the issue here. However, notwithstanding this, CheckUser is NOT a tool to be used frivolously, or on every suspected sockpuppet. It is clear to me that this user has breached WP:SOCK whether as a sock or meatpuppet, and as such a CU would be entirely unnecessary. Mayalld (talk) 12:40, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
"It is considered highly inappropriate to advertise Wikipedia articles to your friends, family members, or communities of people who agree with you, so that they come to Wikipedia and support your side of a debate."
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