The following discussion is an archived proposal of the WikiProject below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or the WikiProject Council). No further edits should be made to this page.

The resulting WikiProject was created at Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas

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Description[edit]

A project about the indigenous peoples of South America and North America, including Greenland, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Central America, from ancient to current times. -Uyvsdi (talk) 02:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Support[edit]

Please specify whether or not you would join the project.

1. Uyvsdi (talk) 02:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi - would definitely join[reply]
2. Smallchief (talk) Would join.
3. As a once active editor of Aymara and Quechua languages Wikipedias, the indigenous languages, customs and everything about the native people of the Americas is something worthy of a 'project, for sure. I'm specially interested in the Mapuche, Aymara, Promaucaes and Maya people. --Diego Grez (talk) 00:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
4. CJLippert (talk) 20:45, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
5. ·Maunus·ƛ· 00:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
6. Skookum1 (talk) 18:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
7. Donald Albury 21:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC) - What the hay, I find myself being pulled into editing about the Caribbean area.[reply]
8.   गीता Brother Sun - dispelling the clouds of ignorance ^{Brother Sun TALKS at alt: Brothercanyouspareadime}   (UTC) OK but shouldn't there be a Project of Indigenistas and First Nations with a Task Force on the Americas???

Discussion[edit]

A group should cover all indigenous peoples of the Americas, since many indigenous peoples span multiple nation-states and several span continents (i.e. Kuna people, Arawak peoples, Carib people, etc.). Economic migration is increasing travel of indigenous peoples across national boundaries. Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America focuses primarily on Canada and the United States and does not focus on indigenous peoples of Central America or the Caribbean (even though Guatemala alone has more indigenous peoples than the United States and Canada combined). WP:WikiProject Mesoamerica focuses on precolumbian cultures, leaving out contemporary indigenous cultures. Many articles about indigenous peoples outside of Canada and United States are in disarray, so a dedicated Wikipedia project could call attention to these articles, and also attract bilingual Spanish, Portuguese, Quechua, and other language speakers to fill voids in the English language Wikipedia and actively safeguard against the Wikipedia:English-speaking Point Of View. Many articles already reflect a hemispheric approach, such as Indigenous peoples of the Americas, Visual arts by indigenous peoples of the Americas, Shamanism among the indigenous peoples of the Americas, Classification of indigenous peoples of the Americas, List of writers from peoples indigenous to the Americas, etc. Category:Indigenous peoples of the Americas is the primary category for this project. -Uyvsdi (talk) 02:36, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Some discussion about the proposed project is taking place at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America; however, WP IPA definitely needs the input of Central and South American wikipedians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uyvsdi (talk • contribs) 21:40, 8 February 2011

On the assumption that what you really want to do is to improve the articles, rather than mess about with project pages, I strongly suggest that you join one of the existing projects, expanding the scope as necessary. There simply aren't enough editors available to fragment them across half a dozen groups. If it were up to me, we would merge every one of those tiny (and mostly inactive) groups into one big centralized one, with everyone (literally) on the same page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:30, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am a member of WP:IPNA, it's quite active, and its scope is appropriately limited to North America. I'm quite happy to "mess about with project pages." This is only a proposal for one group not "tiny groups." WP:IPA would be a fall under WP:Ethnic Groups and the only sub-groups are be WP:IPNA (+WP:IPNA/Anishnaabe) and WP:Mesoamerica, which is also active and focused. -Uyvsdi (talk) 23:36, 8 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Portal:Indigenous peoples of the Americas is up but not linked. Feel free to look it over and make improvements. -Uyvsdi (talk) 20:23, 9 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Thank you, Maunus. We have minimum participants to begin a page, but perhaps before doing so we should define "indigenous peoples of the Americas"? Here's what I wrote on the portal: "The Indigenous peoples of the Americas are the aboriginal peoples of North and South America. They include the Precolumbian peoples who lived in the Americas before African and European contact and the descendants of these peoples, including mixed-raced Indigenous peoples, such as the Mestizo, Métis, and others. These include the southernmost ethnic group in the word, the Yaghan of Chile and Argentina, to the northernmost people in the world, the Inughuit of Greenland." Any changes would be welcome! -Uyvsdi (talk) 21:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Please continue this conversation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas. -Uyvsdi (talk) 00:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the project's talk page (if created) or at the WikiProject Council). No further edits should be made to this page.