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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 08:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Am happy to review this edition of the Tour de France. The review is being conducted as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 08:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose):
b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): ![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/Symbol_support_vote.svg/16px-Symbol_support_vote.svg.png)
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section):
b (citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
Lead
- "The race consisted of 21 stages and a prologue, over a total distance of 3,403.8 km (2,115 mi)" - you can shorten this sentence so that it says The 3,403.8 km (2,115.0 mi) race consisted of 21 stages and a prologue.
- "ahead of Claudio Chiappucci (Carrera Jeans–Vagabond) and Erik Breukink (PDM–Concorde)." - maybe state what Chiappucci and Breukink were second and third respectively
- "also from the escape group, took over." - clarify that Bauer took over the lead or first place
- "and Dimitri Konyshev (Alfa Lum) the first Soviet rider to win a stage at the Tour." - was the first
- All
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:54, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Teams
- "Sixteen teams qualified based" - Try not to start a sentence with numbers whether spelt out or not
- "based on the FICP team ranking," - rankings
- "enabled by the changing political climate." - please make it more clearer to readers what you mean here per WP:EASTEREGG
- All
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pre-race favourites
- "He was considered overweight due to lack of training[18]" - a comma is missing from the reference
- I will admit that I am not the best at English comma rules (are there any?), but I was only aware of an Oxford comma between three or more conjuctions (as it states in the article). As far as I know, none should be placed if there are only two things connected with an "and"?
- "A crash on stage 5 of the Giro d'Italia had forced Fignon to abandon the race he had won the year before." - how about plain 1989 instead?
Done
- "Pedro Delgado, the winner of 1988," - of the 1988 tour,
Done
- "His best result that season had been second place" - been a second place?
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Route and stages
- "The race had its Grand Départ (opening stages) in and around the Futuroscope theme park. The owners of the park paid around $1 million for the right to host the beginning of the race." - I think these two sentences could be merged into each other with the appropriate punctuation and grammar
Done
- "from Geneva to Saint-Gervais, at 118.5 km (73.6 mi).[40][36]" - please put the refs in numerical order
Done, you don't really notice these things if you just type in the references... Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Grand Départ at Futuroscope
- "a protest by sheep farmers held up the peloton," - delayed
Done
- "and caused several crashes, including for Delgado." - inculding one involving Delago.
Done
- "Chiappucci took the points at the mountain sprints," - don't you mean points lead?
- Well no, he takes the points at the sprints, meaning that with them, he takes the lead, which is part of the second part of that sentence.
- "Fignon's Castorama team finished fifth, 33 seconds slower than Panasonic, but 20 seconds faster than LeMond's Z team," - try to avoid repetition of the word "team" in the same sentence
Done
North-west
- "Fignon punctured, but he was able to rejoin shortly after." - I think you want to clarify that Fignon punctured a tyre
Done
- "After 92 km (57 mi) the race was interrupted by another protest from sheep farmers," - It would to know what the sheep farmers were protesting against
- I kind of left that out on purpose, since I did not want to stray away too much from the topic at hand... but if you feel that this is necessary information, I can include it.
- Well only a brief mention about what they were protesting over would not do too much harm IMO MWright96 (talk) 19:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @MWright96: Have added the info at the first instance of a blockade in the paragraph before. Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- "unaware that Argentin had already finished.[58][54]" - refs in numerical order please
Done
- "Through bonuses at intermediate sprints," - obtaining bonuses
Done
- "by far the longest at 301 km (187 mi), was run in rainy conditions." - wet weather
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
North-east and Jura
- "Chiappucci punctured twice," - sustained two punctured tyres,
- "Raúl Alcalá (PDM–Concorde), also a late starter, was the fastest," - fastest rider
- "finishing three-and-a-half minutes behind Alcalá." - can be changed to 3½ minutes
- I believe the term Eastern bloc can also begin with two capital letters
- All
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alps
- "As Hernández slowed, Claveyrolat took over and continued on alone," - took over what exactly? the lead of the stage?
- "who set the tempo in the group through the ensuing valley" - pace
- All
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Massif Central transistion
- "but it took until the climb of the Côte d'Ardoix at 33 km (21 mi) for a thirty-rider group" - 30 for consistency with MOS:NUMERAL
- "Seventeen more riders caught up to him after 91 km (57 mi)." - same issue as above
- "but he was caught on the final ascent to Causse Noir near Millau." - caught by whom?
- "The now 19 rider strong group increased their advantage to up to eight minutes," - 19-rider
- All
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:24, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pyreenes
- I think both paragraphs could be divided into two for better readability
- "In very hot conditions," - weather
- "LeMond moved to the front and set a devastating pace" - try not to use non-neutral wording such as "devastating"
- "quickly snapped' his head around" - turned
- "to verify LeMond wasn't going to challenge him" - no contractions please per MOS:CONTRACTION
- I should read the sentences I haven't written myself better...
- We should avoid those terms anyway, so I changed it to LeMond.
- All
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Final stages
- "1:28 ahead of Dag Otto Lauritzen (7-Eleven)." - 1:28 minutes
Done
- "Alcalá and Induráin moved back into the top-ten riders in the general classification." - reutrned to the top ten
Done
- "He countered criticism that he had not shown enough fighting spirit by not taking an individual stage" - individual stage win
Done
- "Particular praise was given after the Tour to Miguel Induráin," - please state if possible whom distributed the praise to Induráin
- Have named one in the next half sentence, hope that is OK. Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Classification leadership and minor prizes
- "In addition, time bonuses could be won during intermediate sprints during the first half of the race." - try to attempt to avoid repetition of the word "during" in this sentence
Done
- "The cyclist with the most points leadthe classification," - typo; should be led+
Done I keep making this mistake over and over...
- "with fourth category being the easiest and hors category" - a fourth category being the easiest and a hors category
- Have switched the sentence around a bit.
- "The cyclist with the most points lead the classification," - typo; should be led
Done Exhibit B.
- "The 1989 Tour had included the combination classification, which was also no longer run." - is there any information that states why the combination classification was no longer ran from the 1990 Tour onwards?
- Let me get back to you on that. I feel like I have a book somewhere going into detail about it, but I have to look it up.
- Found it. Now
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 15:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- "after each mass-start stage to the cyclist considered most combative." - considered the most combative.
Done
- "This prize was won by Miguel Ángel Martínez Torres.[135][43]" - please place the references that cite this sentence in numerical order
Done
- "The Tour de France paid out 10,073,450 French franc as prize money in total," - paid out F10,073,450 in total prize monies,
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Doping and penalties
- "Eric Vanderaerden (Buckler–Colnago–Decca) was expelled from the race on stage 11 for being pushed." - Do we know how/who pushed Vanderaerden that led to his disqualification from the 1990 tour? If so, please add that information into the article
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
References
- References 26 and 35 are missing the author of the respective articles
Done
- Reference 30 is dead and needs archiving
- Internet Archive is down at the moment, will do this once it's back up. Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Am going to place the review on hold to allow the nominator to address/respond to each of the queries raised above. MWright96 (talk) 16:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Thank you for the thorough review! I have addressed the points above, though some are open questions, so please feel free to go through them and reply. There is one thing I still need to look up, will do so ASAP. Zwerg Nase (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @MWright96: I think I am through :) Zwerg Nase (talk) 15:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Zwerg Nase: Yes indeed. Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 15:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @MWright96: Thank you! Zwerg Nase (talk) 14:42, 13 April 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]