Problems with Semantics Section[edit]

There were several problems with the semantics section which I have tried to fix.

Finally, this section only discusses are small part of the semantics of adjectives, and should be extended. Ted BJ (talk) 20:57, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Bright sun"[edit]

What is the term for an adjective that is redundant but included for emphasis, such as "the bright sun"? I don't mean a tautology; there is a special term when the purpose is emphasis. It may be "pleonasm", but I thought there was something more specific when used for emphasis. I didn't see anything in the article for this. BMJ-pdx (talk) 12:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adjective#Restrictiveness :) Botterweg14 (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Expletive attributive. (@Botterweg14: I wouldn't say restrictive, which IMHO is a very ill-defined concept that is too broad to be practicably useful. I mean, all attributive adjectives are restrictive, right?) Kent Dominic·(talk) 16:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Both of those are close but no cigar. Adjective#Restrictiveness explains "non-restrictive" well, but in the examples cited, at least, the adjective does add something, whereas in "a true fact" it's completely redundant, serving only as emphasis. Expletive attributive goes beyond mere emphasis; in any case, "expletive" has a lot of extra baggage.
BMJ-pdx (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found where I first saw what I was thinking of, and it is "pleonasm" (not to be confused with "neoplasm" :) . From WordNet(r) 3.1:

pleonastic   adj : repetition of same sense in different words; "`a true fact' and `a free gift' are pleonastic expressions"

Albeit not as poetic as "The bright sun bore down upon them.".

"Pleonastic" is a lacking omission from the article, but I'll leave to someone with knowing erudition to try to shoehorn it in.

BMJ-pdx (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, despite how expletive typically connotes profane in colloquial usage, the linguistics sense of the word relates to amplifiers or intensifiers. E.g., I coined the word gob-so-smacking-lutely, whose definition is tagged as an expletive as used in the sentence, "Guess who called me today out of gob-so-smacking-lutely nowhere?" (Using abso-effing-lutely didn't have the same feeling of novelty that I wanted the relevant character to express.)
I don't consider "bright sun to be necessarily pleonastic, given how there are sunsets, first lights, eclipses, cloudy skies, etc., that can be thought of as contrasting a bright sun. Depends on the context. Someone who thinks otherwise might work the concept of pleonasm into the article. Cheers. Kent Dominic·(talk) 21:26, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]