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tiny hamlets[edit]

A recent edit to this article "removed tiny hamlets with no articles". I have undone this edit. Most of the places in the list don't have articles yet, but we should aim to have articles for all of them. -- Oliver P. 23:50, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)

There seems to be a problem with the editors of these pages. First off, they think they have the authority to decide which settlement types can be doled out, despite knowing absolutely nothing about them in the first place, effectively making up things - i.e. Bourne End. Secondly, half the villages in South Bucks are "apparently" now in the unitary authority of Windsor and Maidenhead - i.e. Taplow - which is incorrect too. I live in this area, and I am not happy that the editors are making such misinformed judgements such as this - to prove what? Please make amendments.

Make the amendments yourself, and do please STOP adding notes to the bottom of the page. If you wish to amend what the page says amend the main text. Notes added to the bottom of a page will ALWAYS be reverted. -- Graham  :) 15:53, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Postal purposes[edit]

Copied from page history: Milton Keynes district became a unitary authority in 1997, but remains part of the county for ceremonial and postal purposes.

I don't understand for what postal purposes Milton Keynes remains part of Buckinghamshire? If anything it's the reverse, parts of the existing county of Bucks have a Milton Keynes postcode (eg Buckingham is MK18). -- Graham  :) 17:50, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Buckinghamshire (From Wikipedia:Featured article candidates)[edit]

Article on the county in England mainly developed to its current state by myself. I believe it's a good model for other county articles to copy. I finally decided to list it here because I've managed to find some artwork to display alongside Morwen's marvellous maps. Graham  :) 00:04, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Ethnicity in infobox[edit]

A discussion has opened at talk:Bedfordshire#Ethnicity in infobox about attempts to change the ethnicity figures without providing a valid citation (in fact an irrelevant "citation" was given). The same has happened to this article. But in opening the discussion, Rupples correctly observed that the existing figure is not cited either. Consequently, I will now hide those lines in this article while I calculate and propose new figures here for approval. We have the advantage of having only two UAs'-worth of figures to add up. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Calculations

Here are my calculations.

Sources: https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/sources/census_2021/report?compare=E06000060#section_5 for Buckinghamshire Council; https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/sources/census_2021/report?compare=E06000042#section_5 for City of Milton Keynes


Buckinghamshire Council
Group Number %
All usual residents 553,078 100
Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh 68,318 12.4
Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African 14,269 2.6
Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups 19,570 3.5
White 442,164 79.9
Other ethnic group 8,757 1.6
City of Milton Keynes
Group Number %
All usual residents 287,060 100
Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh 35,645 12.4
Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African 27,851 9.7
Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups 11,725 4.1
White 206,114 71.8
Other ethnic group 5,725 2.0
Buckinghamshire (all)
Group Number %
All usual residents 840,138 100
Asian, Asian British or Asian Welsh 103,963 12.4
Black, Black British, Black Welsh, Caribbean or African 42,120 5.0
Mixed or Multiple ethnic groups 31,295 3.7
White 648,278 77.2
Other ethnic group 14,482 1.7

If somebody would validate my calculations and sourcing, we can update the article accordingly. (Personally, I fail to see the value of such arbitrary divisions: it just feeds racist conspiracy theories.) --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:01, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone through and checked the transcribed figures, additions and percentage calculations and didn't find any errors. Sources look fine too. Good work. Interesting that the editors who changed the figures came up with nearly the same percentages. Wonder whether they went through the same process or used a different source. Rupples (talk) 03:13, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But nothing excuses citing entirely irrelevant but superficially convincing URLs.
I will apply the update now. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Population figure in the infobox is wrong[edit]

The 808,666 figure is a 2018 estimate. The correct figure is 840,138 (= 553,078 + 287,060). I am trying to get it corrected. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:31, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just to close this question, I have corrected the Buckinghamshire (and Bedfordshire) figures at ((English cerem counties)) and this article now shows the correct figure. But it needs someone with more time and inclination than I have to update all the others. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unitary Area article for the district?[edit]

I think from its coverage and mainly being a separate entity to the county (which includes MK). I think a unitary Area article should be made similar to Dorset, MK and Somerset's and Buckinghamshire Council is used for the political control only. As the council articles don't cover the wider areas like Chesham Aylesbury, High Wycombe etc like a district article would. @JMF @Crouch, Swale @KeithD @AnonymousMK others thoughts? DragonofBatley (talk) 19:31, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The huge problem is the ambiguous choice of name (unlike Bedfordshire, which wss sensible). But for all practical purposes, the generic Buckinghamshire article does all that is needed and it would just be a wp:cfork to replicate it. The Bucks Council article only needs to say which towns etc that are (and are not) within its remit. For anything else, just refer readers to the overall Buckinghamshire article. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think either way we need to look at merging Buckinghamshire County Council to Buckinghamshire Council as although they are technically different legal entities they cover/covered the same area, have very similar names and have similar functions, the only difference is the newer also has the district functions. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While there are indeed significant distinctions in local governance between the City of Milton Keynes and the rest of Bucks, the latter covers 80% of the ceremonial county, so (as JMF said) the only benefit of having a separate article would be to summarise which towns are administered by Bucks Council, and which ones aren't. In the majority of contexts, usage of the term "Buckinghamshire" (for historical, geographical and social reasons), refers to the whole ceremonial county, including the Milton Keynes UA [1][2], so any new article will likely fall short of WP:GNG standards (although the local press and political nerds occasionally refer to MK as being distinct from Bucks). To distinguish the Bucks Council-administered areas from the MK-administered ones, for the articles under the latter category, we have stated that they are either "in/of Milton Keynes" or "in the City of Milton Keynes UA", which creates a clear enough distinction IMO, ntm that the Buckinghamshire article already covers the nooks and crannies of local govt in significant detail. Anonymous MK2006 (talk) 19:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The current article seems to me to do all that is needed to cover the unitary area. We have had several debates over whether we should have separate articles for UA areas which share the names of their ceremonial counties - see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography/How_to_write_about_districts#Districts that are also counties: Buckinghamshire and Wiltshire (not?) and others, and there has not been much enthusiasm for the idea. I think Shropshire (district) and North Yorkshire (district) are bad examples to follow, and I would suggest merging them back into the articles on their counties. Firstly, these UA areas are legally counties (e.g. County of Buckinghamshire here). I don't think anyone outside WP refers to the UA areas as "districts" - if anyone can find a reliable source which does, it would be good to know. Secondly, the UA area articles would either duplicate much of the material in the ceremonial county articles, or just deal with governance issues which could be in the articles on the UAs themselves.--Mhockey (talk) 21:22, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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