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[This is a comment by a paid contributor of this article] - There are a few points in this article regarding the subject's awards and filmography which are at technical odds with the subject's memory and records, and I have tried to amend the article so that it matches reality perhaps slightly better than it does published sources in one or two instances (for example, the award for Hobson's Choice is currently (2017) recorded on IMDb as being in the category "Anthology", which is nonsensical (it wasn't an anthology) and inaccurate, so I have amended this to its actual category, "Television Movie"). None of these alterations, however, undermines the subjects fundamental notability, which will stands no matter which version of the record the reader looks at. If subsequent editors prefer to go more strictly with the published sources than what the subject himself has communicated to me (and which I understand has limited viability under WP:IKNOW) then that will be their prerogative, but I wanted to be clear with why there are some technical discrepancies between a citation or two and the corresponding (now mostly accurate) information. KDS4444 (talk) 01:33, 10 June 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

IMDB is not considered a reliable source, and frequently I find information there that is grossly inaccurate. Usually cast lists are correct but I've found errors there too. There needs to be a reliable secondary source for awards as you point out, and I'm afraid that recollections by the subject are unverifiable and really won't do. The Wayback Machine may help, as may other databases. Coretheapple (talk) 13:32, 9 July 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

:I've tagged the article for notability (WP:BIO)and sources. Without sourcing on the awards, definitely not. Even with the awards I'm not sure it fits the guideline. Re "anthology" -- that is confirmed by the Los Angeles Times, March 1, 1985, p. 20: Original or Adapted TV Comedy Anthology: "One Cooks, the Other Doesn't," Larry Grusin, CBS; "Hobson's Choce," Burt Prelutsky, based on a play by Harold Brighouse, CBS. So the subject's recollection is not correct and cannot be relied upon even if it was. Only verifiable sources are usable. I'll keep looking for more sources. Right now I just have him nominated but I am sure the award article is there. Coretheapple (talk) 15:12, 9 July 2017 (UTC) Untagged oer AP article indicating he was a notable film critic in the 1960s. Coretheapple (talk) 16:59, 9 July 2017 (UTC) Reply[reply]