GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: The Blue Rider (talk · contribs) 19:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
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Hello! Good to see a WP:VA biography being brought to GA status. I will try to post my first review until the end of this week. Thank you! The Blue Rider 19:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for taking this one! This is my fourth vital GA nomination. I'll be away over the weekend, so I'll probably get around to addressing your comments some time next week. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@The Blue Rider: Thanks for the review. I'm going to need a few more days to get around to addressing your comments, as I've come down with something during my time away. Once I've recovered, I'll get right to it. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

  • Removed "widely" to be safe. To be clear, the source in this case says he "bid fair to become almost as popular as Castro himself and was "the man best loved in Cuba after Castro". Let me know if you think this can be improved further. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've merged some of the paragraphs, it's down to four now. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early life[edit]

  • Source doesn't say. I would have to look into this. He was already active in the anti-Batista movement, so I can only assume that was one of his main motives. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:24, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guerrilla activities[edit]

Landing and first offensive[edit]

In Guevara's Column[edit]

  • Some revolutionaries, but also some unaffiliated outlaw bands. I've rewritten the sentence, let me know what you think. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This doesn't appear to be the same person. Juan Pablo Chang Navarro was killed in Bolivia in 1967, where this "Chino Chang" was executed in Cuba in 1957. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:36, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ops! I guess there are two Chino Chang involved in guerrilas. The Blue Rider 12:54, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Independent command[edit]

Las Villas Operation[edit]

Revolutionary victory[edit]

  • Added. Thankfully this note made me realised I had unconsciously hispanisied the name to "Colombia", but all the sources use the spelling "Columbia" because the base was originally established by the Americans during the first occupation of Cuba. Glad I caught this. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After the Revolution[edit]

Initial activities[edit]

Consolidation of the Revolution[edit]

Huber Matos affair[edit]

  • "Castro's consolidation of power, as well as the increasing role of the Popular Socialist Party in government, began to worry some officers in the Revolutionary Army" Is this not clear enough? I thought it was pretty obvious. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't know why I missed that, but yes, it's pretty obvious. The Blue Rider 13:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disappearance[edit]

Character[edit]

Personality[edit]

  • Oh no, this was at a time before "gay" had the connotations of sexuality. I'm 90% sure they're using the original definition of "happy"/"carefree". --Grnrchst (talk) 13:05, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've been looking at this section for a few days now and I'm still struggling with how I could rephrase it. These are all such subjective views of his personality that I'm not sure how I could possibly neutralise them into wikivoice. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:24, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Political ideology[edit]

Leadership style[edit]

  • The quotations here and in the personality section were two places where I felt it very difficult to put it into wikivoice, because these reflections almost always come from personal perspectives. I can give it a go, but I already struggled with it in the first place. --Grnrchst (talk) 16:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe try to say, "According to X Cienfuegas was Y or X described Cienfuegos has Y. If that doesn't work then it's fine. The Blue Rider 18:08, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, I've managed to rewrite the quotes in the leadership style section. I'll have to think further about the personality section though, as I'm not sure how possible it is. --Grnrchst (talk) 09:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy[edit]

Speculation about disappearance[edit]

Friends and family[edit]

Memorial dedications[edit]

Popular culture[edit]

  • If I'd come across more, I would have added more. Tried searching around just now but couldn't find anything else. --Grnrchst (talk) 16:46, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image(s)[edit]

Stability[edit]

Sources[edit]

  • Source 1 is no longer available.
  • Source 9, especifically Quirk, says some run away to the mountains and other to the south, the text only has the former.

Copyvio[edit]

  • Not sure where the 10.7% figure came from, Earwig never showed that for me. It only highlighted a wee bit in the legacy section for me, so I cut it down a bit. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:25, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

No, everything is in order! Good job on the article. You are missed at WP:VA! The Blue Rider 02:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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