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shouldn't this article have a picture of someone actually crowd surfing? Miles 00:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Crowd surfing is put in syllabus-free dance. When the hell did crowd surfing become a dance??? BishopTutu 02:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

1. It's fun. 2. It's a cheat way to get the front. 3. If the pit is too rough to too tightly packed, the easiest way to get out is to crowdsurf out.

I don't really know how to put that in encyclopedic fashion...

Venues should change their policy on crowd surfing from "anybody who crowd surfs will be evicted" to "crowd surf at your own risk." Scott Gall 09:18, 25 January 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Be that as it may, why state that here? This is to discuss the article on crowd surfing--an article meant to state the situation as it is. It's not a discussion forum on what should be. 140.147.160.78 18:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)Stephen KoscieszaReply[reply]

Why is R.T. Rybak in the "See Also" section? He's the mayor of Minneapolis; what is his connection with crowd surfing?

If I don't get a response shortly, I'll assume it's someone's dippy idea of humor and delete it.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 17:58, 6 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Have you read the article on R.T. Rybak fully? TheTrojanHought 15:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No; that's why I asked. I live in Minneapolis, but had not heard that he'd crowd surfed.

I'll modify the article accordingly.

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 13:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It should seem to me that the link is unneeded. It is not a terribly noteworthy fact that he's a mayor who has crowdsurfed, nor is it possible to prove that he is the only mayor to have crowdsurfed. If someone is terribly interested in articles about people with noteable crowdsurfing experiences, they could click "what links here". Anyone care to rebutt? Verdatum 19:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Needs changing-Christian Lorenz no longer does it as he has been injured too many times, which is why Oliver Riedel took over. However I am unsure on any sources which could confirm this. TheTrojanHought 10:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Bruce Springsteen crowd surfed in 1980 in Tempe, Ar while performing '10th Avenue Freeze Out.'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R35bw9N0vI  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ServantofTwilight (talk • contribs) 02:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply] 

The article speaks of people being ejected for crowd surfing. But isn't it possible, and doesn't it happen, that people could be picked up and find themselves crowd surfing without intending to do so? 140.147.160.78 18:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)Stephen KoscieszaReply[reply]

It is possible. How does that effect the content of the article? Unless you find a signifigant source reporting an altercation of this nature, I don't see any need for an edit. Verdatum 19:12, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What does that have anything to do with crowd surfing? The people who died were trampled because the singer asked everyone to move back, not because anyone was crowd surfing. I fail to see the connection and the CNN source doesn't even mention crowd surfing. 76.117.235.39 (talk) 19:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

^This. "that it is common mosh pit etiquette to pick up anyone who has fallen over" - it's rather true for moshing, touching injuried person who has fallen from crowd may be dangerous. Falling from crowd may cause serious injuries, totally different (!!!) than moshing. "They also say that serious injuries caused by crowd surfing are extremely rare" - I doubt it. Well, who exactly says it, what is "serious injury" and "extremly rare" means what? WP:WEASEL. "crowd surfing has been made illegal at most festivals and concerts in Europe" - false. I've never seen such prohibition in Poland. Maybe it's true for the biggest festivals, but for sure not for most. "it is not uncommon for audience members to be kicked or otherwise hit in the back of the head" - never heard of it. Also "It is true that the majority of injuries caused by crowd surfing are only mild bruising, which occurs in any mosh pit without crowd surfing." - so "not uncommon" kicking in the head happens often in moshpit? "crowd surfing can be used as a means of transporting individuals out of the crowd" - as well to the toilet. I was transported few times in the direction of scene, never in opposite direction. So as you see, it depends. "This is known as "mosh-lobbing," usually done by audience members or even performers who see crowd surfing as a pointless activity." - performer jumps into the crowd, steals somebody mobile phone and throws it somewhere? Seems unlikely. "following up the discouragement with "that shit is so old" and telling them to "save that shit for the MTV music awards" - searching the Internet gives only mirrors of Wikipedia. A hoax?

Well, it's written by somebody (or a few persons) who has attended a few festivals and he thinks that his experiences applies to everywhere. There's view of two groups (pro and anti), but it's all not professional and mostly false. Typical fan of heavy music don't know much about injuries, except that it hurts. BTW there's crowd surfing also on rap festivals. Comparing things (rare, not uncommon, the majority of injuries, etc.) needs to be sourced with statistics, not with not-existing "experts". It's pure original research and if somebody won't fix it (well, to be honest - rewrite it) it has to be deleted. Herr Kriss (talk) 03:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is it just me, or does this seem incredibly biased against crowd surfing. It doesn't point out how a lot of people enjoy it, and is part of the experience at a lot of concerts with a pit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.205.96 (talk) 04:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Back in 2001-2004, I spent a few hours videotaping female crowd surfers at Atlanta's Music Midtown festival, and then spent a ton of hours editing that together into movies which I sold on the internet on DVD. In total, I ended up with over 6 hours of purely crowd surfing events. I sold them on a website with the same name as the movies, but that domain name got stolen when I let it lapse, so that sort of ended that. I later made a blu-ray of all the movies which can still be had on ebay if you search it out. I didn't really make a lot of money out of it all, but I didn't really do it for the money - I honestly felt that crowd surfing was a passing fad that must die out due to the litigiousness of our society, and that somebody should try to properly document it while it is still happening. I have posted a lot of the best clips on youtube as well - just look for Crazy Crowd Surfers and you can see some of what I am talking about.

I always had mixed feelings about Crowd Surfing. I definitely got kicked in the head quite a few times while making the movies - I really hated the buttheads who would go up wearing freaking WORK BOOTS! But there is a certain beauty and intrigue wrapped up in watching a girl being passed around, and you gotta admire the guts it takes to do it, all the time risking both injury and multiple minor sexual assaults. And then sometimes they DO get dropped, and as often as not, you see them back up within seconds! Sometimes girls go up not knowing what to expect, and soon find themselves in an undesirable situation. I do think that I was ultimately able to capture a variety of unique situations, and enable the viewers of the movies to get a real feel for what crowd surfing is all about, and why it is so damn FUN, despite all the dangers.

I can also confirm that it IS possible to get put up and end up crowd surfing without wanting to. In my last movie, there is one event where some guys near me caught on to what I was doing and decided I needed to crowd surf myself. There was one other occasion that I didn't tape where I crowd surfed up to the front just to get the hell out of where I was! Sometimes videotaping crowd surfers has its own dangers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sputterwall (talk • contribs) 00:21, 8 January 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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The article states that Springsteen appears in the first documented video of crowd surfing, taken in 1980; however, in the opening scene of the 1976 version of A Star Is Born, before John Howard takes the stage, during a montage of the audience, a quick clip shows a woman crowd surfing. By her facial expression, it appears to be consensual (indicating she wasn't being forcibly removed by means overhead carrying). This may qualify as "documented footage" of crowd surfing; but a semantic debate could be held whether it is the first "documented video". Ivansevil (talk) 01:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]