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Edit Request - brief, 2nd paragraph:

As a french, I'm surprised that the date of France Foundation isn't even mentioned, the baptism of Clovis in 496. Also Germanic tribes didn't arrive in 476, that's the date of the fall of the Roman Empire. Here is my proposal:

" The Germanic Franks arrived in 476 and formed the Kingdom of Francia, which became the heartland of the Carolingian Empire. " -> "Germanic tribes took over the territory after the fall of the Roman Empire in 476. Clovis, King of the Germanic Franks, managed to reunite the most of it under one Kingdom. In 496 he converts to the Christian religion, thus allying with the Gallo-Roman people and funding the first Kingdom of what will become later France and its first dynasty of Kings, the Merovingians, followed three centuries later by a second dynasty, the Carolingians, whose Charlemagne founded his Empire."

My sources are just French Wikipedia articles. Thank you

Edit Request - [Education] section:

In the third paragraph: "Higher education is divided between public universities and the prestigious and selective Grandes écoles, such as Sciences Po Paris for Political studies, HEC Paris for Economics, Polytechnique and the École nationale supérieure des mines de Paris that produce high-profile engineers, or the École nationale d'administration for careers in the Grands Corps of the state"

Among the examples of Grandes écoles, I think that it should be interesting to add "École normale supérieure for academic research". Indeed it is one of the most esteemed schools in France, and the leader for research. A link to the page of this school: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/École_normale_supérieure_(Paris)

Thank you.

Edit Request - [Education] section:

In the last paragraphe of the section [Education], it is stated "Health insurance for students is free until the age of 20."

France has Universal Healthcare which although has some affiliation with concepts of insurance due to partial reimbursements of fees and costs, it is free and provided regardless of age or income. It is also comparatively very low cost.

Because of the above, it is misleading and even erroneous to bring into the article claims of age restrictions or even notions of insurance policies which, especially US audiences, evoke false images of potentially costly personal healthcare through [private] insurance companies. I suggest removing any text regarding health insurance in regards to the education section as it is not relevant to the French educational system. Cdelapointe (talk) 20:31, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Edit Request - Law section:

"France is tolerant of the LGBT community. Since 1999, civil unions for homosexual couples are permitted, and since May 2013, same-sex marriage and LGBT adoption are legal in France.[99]"

to be removed: LGBT adoption is Legal

Same sex marriage is legal in France since may 2013 but LGBT adoption is legal, it's actually the subject of larges debates ("manif pour tous" vs "Anti Manif pour tous").

Edit Request - Literature Section: "Jean de La Fontaine is one of the most famous fabulist of that time, as he wrote hundreds of fables, some being far more famous than others, such as The Ant and the Grasshopper."he is stupid and is awesome.

Upon reading the article on "The Ant and the Grasshopper" - Fontaine was _reinterpreting_ Aesop's Fables.

Edit request

Hi, in the fourth paragraph of the introduction, there is a link that states France has the fourth largest nominal military budget, but when you click on the link the article states it has the fifth largest budget. Could someone check please.

Cheers

In the Prehistory section, it states:

"The oldest traces of human life in what is now France date from approximately 1,800,000 years ago."

Sorry, but humans have not been around than long. Wikipedia's own article on humans states they originated in Africa some 200,000 years ago, one 9th of the time stated in this article. The citation is 25 years old and is now obviously superceded.

Plus one: +1 : this is assertion in not only completely stupid but based on completelty outdated references. Please delete.92.144.185.233 (talk) 22:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit request In the economy section, it says "France derives 75% of its electricity from nuclear power, the highest percentage in the world.[138]". Can someone put a better source, the source given claims that France makes 39% of electricity from nuclear, in complete contradiction with the article. France is known for bacon. Maybe this one: http://www.iaea.org/PRIS/WorldStatistics/NuclearShareofElectricityGeneration.aspx Up to date and reliable. The real figure is 73%. Liberivore (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit request

The lead needs more than a single sentence on the history of France.OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 18:13, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit request in the Religion section

The paragraph begins with: is the Roman Catholic cathedral where the kings of France were crowned until 1825.[235] ]]

This text should be below the picture instead of in the paragraph, please correct it. 194.98.34.59 (talk) 12:30, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Already corrected!User-duck (talk) 07:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Edit request - Foreign relations section

Last paragraph: "In 2009, France was the second largest (in absolute numbers) donor of development aid in the world, behind the US, and ahead of Germany, Japan and the UK.[145] This represents 0.5% of its GDP, in this regard rating France as tenth largest donor on the list."

According to OECD (http://www.compareyourcountry.org/%5C/oda?page=0&cr=oecd&lg=en) in 2014, France is listed fourth largest donor, behind US, UK and Germany. This represents 0.36% of its GDP, in this regard 12th largest donor.87.212.145.228 (talk) 21:51, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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This article has been viewed enough times in a single year to make it into the Top 50 Report annual list. This happened in 2010 and 2013.

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The rationale behind the request is: "To know about France".

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Section sizes

Section size for France (56 sections)
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Etymology and pronunciation	4,008	4,008
History	141	57,585
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Antiquity (6th century BC – 5th century AD)	4,134	4,134
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High and Late Middle Ages (10th–15th century)	6,859	6,859
Early modern period (15th century–1789)	8,347	8,347
Revolutionary France (1789–1799)	7,986	7,986
Napoleon and 19th century (1799–1914)	5,309	5,309
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Geography	44	23,647
Location and borders	2,920	2,920
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Environment	12,989	12,989
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Regions	2,601	2,601
Overseas territories and collectivities	1,944	1,944
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Government	9,844	9,844
Law	8,403	8,403
Foreign relations	10,227	10,227
Military	8,908	8,908
Economy	40	35,811
Overview	11,033	11,033
Tourism	7,361	7,361
Energy	4,779	4,779
Transport	6,535	6,535
Science and technology	6,063	6,063
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Art	5,021	5,021
Architecture	8,049	8,049
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Cinema	6,837	6,837
Fashion	2,230	2,230
Media	4,636	4,636
Cuisine	4,972	4,972
Sports	7,685	7,685
See also	63	63
Notes	40	40
References	216	216
Further reading	53	53
External links	736	3,318
Economy	153	153
Government	486	486
Culture	1,943	1,943
Total	274,724	274,724

Pronunciation in the wrong language.[edit]

Someone accidentally put the French pronunciation of France in the audio clip instead of the English pronunciation. 24.116.97.236 (talk) 18:08, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed the same thing in the Paris article. M.Bitton (talk) M.Bitton (talk) 18:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:LEADPRON says Do not include pronunciations for names of foreign countries whose pronunciations are well known in English (France, Poland). An HTML comment in the wikitext (citing a MOS page which doesn't exist) says Do not add English pronunciation, which may have been misinterpreted to mean add French pronunciation instead. I've boldly removed it. Certes (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure any of you really understood WP:MOSPRON before making those changes because the guidelines there only apply for providing English IPA's for articles like France and Poland. And I will mention that the French pronunciation for either France or Paris are certainly not commonly known in English, otherwise nearly everyone would have pronounced France and Paris the French language way. So I have boldly reverted the removal of French IPA & audio clips for both the France & Paris articles while keeping English IPA's excluded from them as per those finer details of WP:MOSPRON. Plus in any case, I think its both absurd & inappropriate to exclude the native French pronunciation when most Wikipedia articles feature the native language IPA's for many countries (e.g. Portugal, Belarus, Romania, Indonesia etc.) or capital cities (e.g. Berlin, Madrid, Amsterdam, Stockholm, Oslo etc.) - even though Poland was mentioned above in this topic, I will point out that the Polish name & IPA for the country is still there in the Poland article. Broman178 (talk) 21:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 January 2024[edit]

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In the section Sport in Culture, remove the "will host" in the sentence "France has hosted events such as the 1938 and 1998 FIFA World Cups,[392] the 2007 Rugby World Cup,[393] and will host the 2023 Rugby World Cup." as the event has now happened. Okynok (talk) 12:30, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Largoplazo (talk) 12:55, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of length template[edit]

This edit by User:Nikkimaria adds a length template to this article. I don't understand the justification for the edit, which Nikkimaria does not elaborate in edit history. In order to improve this article, I'm asking for some guidance about what specifically needs to be improved rather than (→‎top: per talk), which Nikkimaria does not adress the situation. Since the length template's introduction, a number of editors have put effort into reducing unnecessary or lengthy information. When the template was introduced, the article had 294,548 bytes. When this talk discussion was created, it had a length of 274,105 bytes. However, reading the article now, many statements are not excessively long. Therefore, I'm at a loss as to why the length template would apply here, or what would need to be changed to justify removing it. Clarification would be appreciated, and absent any clarification I will WP:BEBOLD and remove it. Cleter (talk) 15:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "many statements are not excessively long"? The tag isn't about the length of individual statements. Largoplazo (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just addressing the individual statements along with the rest of what is claimed to be a long article. Chill out. Cleter (talk) 17:40, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also not sure what you mean by individual statements. If you mean individual sections, the History section is for example over 4,500 words. CMD (talk) 02:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - Cleter, the previous discussion (now archived) offers some specific areas for improvement. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for making it clear that the achieved discussion was settled, it is clear more bytes need to be removed. This discussion may come to a consensus to keep the template, should there be no objections. Cleter (talk) 03:12, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2024[edit]

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Please can you fix the religion of France because it's completely wrong Palatava (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. CloakedFerret (talk) 21:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Religion[edit]

religion talk in the French Republic Palatava (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please someone correct the Religion segment in France because it's firstly different from the real 2020 religion and completely wrong Palatava (talk) 21:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]