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I feel like this title should be removed, since "Southland" refers to anywhere south of San Francisco, not just Greater LA (Source: https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1993/aug/26/straight-what-la-times-means-southland/). However, when I tried to change that, I received a vandalism warning from the user coolcaesar (who appears to not be an admin, so I'm not sure why he is giving warnings). s it ok with the community if I make this edit? 72.134.116.163 (talk) 22:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. The "Southland" often refers to a larger area than Greater Los Angeles. The cited source, Los Angeles Times, does not support the Southland as a synonym for Greater Los Angeles. The cited article doesn't even establish whether its headline containing "Southland" refers to Southern California or just the three counties of L.A., Orange and Riverside, since both of those groupings are discussed in the article. It's pretty much a throwaway headline, explaining nothing.

The 1985 book California for Beginners: The Relocation Guide: How to Get the Best of California (ISBN 9780915093007) says on page 76 that the Southland may refer to the metrolpolitan L.A. area, which it presents as a minority view, but more widely the Southland refers to the six counties of Southern California.

I agree with removal, or better yet removal from the first sentence and added explanation down in the article body. Binksternet (talk) 23:14, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of the cited sources in this article is https://web.archive.org/web/20100311003905/http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7319588, which groups under the Southland umbrella Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties, without restricting the term to San Diego and Imperial counties. Of course that is larger than just Greater Los Angeles. Binksternet (talk) 23:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

California historian Kevin Starr in his 1986 book Inventing the Dream: California through the Progressive Era (ISBN 9780199923267) uses the term Southland to refer to Southern California, certainly including Mount Rubidoux in Riverside. The term Southland occurs in this context on pages 87 and 120. Binksternet (talk) 23:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If this page is about the "Greater Los Angeles", which is not the same as the "Los Angeles Metro Area," then why is there so much information about only the "LA Metro Area"?

Greater L.A. = L.A. Metro + Inland Empire + Ventura County

L.A. Metro = L.A. and Orange Counties

Los Angeles metropolitan area re-directs to this page. There should be two distinct Wiki pages. DavidESPN (talk) 20:36, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why can’t I add flags to it? I saw it in Chicago page. Here’s an example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_metropolitan_area FireDragonValo (talk) 21:06, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

consensus. Flag icons should only be inserted in infoboxes in those cases where they convey information in addition to the text. They could be unnecessarily distracting and might give undue prominence to one field among many. They pop us faster than they can be removed. Fettlemap (talk) 23:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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What is the definition of "major cities"? The list seems rather too long to me. We could use a population of 200,000. 174.67.226.163 (talk) 03:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]