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Hindu is not a religion.[edit]

In recent years, it is confirmed that Hindu is not a religion. there is no supporting proof for proving Hindu as religion. Also, Govt. of India has submitted affidavit in Honorable Supreme Court of India that Hindu is not a religion. Thus, pronouncing or categorizing Hindu as religion is justified. Aarya R P (talk) 11:00, 20 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 14:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Aarya R P I think you have a point (regardless of whether any government or court decides), but "Hinduism" is a commonly accepted term in western world for what the people who practice it call "Sanatana Dharma". I have seen some academics call it a collection of religions - with so many different philosophies, traditions/sampradayas/sects/sub-sects, beliefs etc. etc. along with scriptures. But, at the core of Sanatana Dharma, I think lies the Vedas, the Upanishads, the Purānas etc which forms the basis for all those sects/sub-sects etc. But, maybe you can contribute on the Hindu denominations page with some good sources supporting this. Asteramellus (talk) 16:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The term Hinduism is commonly accepted as religion by vast majority of indians, along with government of India, and other states like pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, all states consider it to be a religion. Ku423winz1 (talk) 11:39, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
hinduism buddhism jainism sikhism all these are brahmin religions, 6 out of 10 principle disciples of buddhism are brahmins, jainism also has brahmins like bhadrabahu, manatung, many chaupai in sikhism have been written by bhatra brahmins and the root of all these religions is om mantra with Swastika ! In buddhism, hinduism, jainism, kshatriya incarnations of ikshvaku dynasty are considered avtara purush and the Kulguru of every Ikshvaku Kshatriya is a Saptrishi Vasishtha gotri Brahmin! Gaur brahmin (talk) 05:30, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
buddhism is not part of brahmins 43.224.0.198 (talk) 07:01, 6 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
yes Rajendraumale673 (talk) 07:04, 6 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hindu/sindhu word shows the Indus river of India and Avesta and Rigveda are written on this Indus river bank. Just like how many rivers originate from different places but they have to meet in the single sea, in the same way, the root of all the religions that originated in the Indian subcontinent is single Om Mantra and Swastika! Gaur brahmin (talk) 05:35, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Swastika copied from buddhism 43.224.0.198 (talk) 07:02, 6 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
yes Rajendraumale673 (talk) 07:04, 6 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Worship of rivers is most important in India, and this is the part of Hinduism. Many times in Rigveda, Indus river has been worshiped, which has been called Hindu in Avesta. Gaur brahmin (talk) 05:36, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oldest religion in the world[edit]

If Kaaba is 5000 years old then how can Hinduism be the oldest religion in the world According to the Kaaba islam should be the oldest religion in the world Mohammad Aqib 5222 (talk) 10:54, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See WP:NOTAFORUM. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:04, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 15 October 2023[edit]

I think its fourth largest religion not third largest Averaciousspeaker (talk) 09:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Either it is third largest or fourth largest religion in the world.[edit]

Please make the required changes.

On Wikipedia page 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism it says - Hinduism is third largest and on page 2. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups it says - fourth largest religion in the world.

Two pages of Wikipedia contradicts each other.

I believe the page no 2 is correct as it even shows the population in numbers for our reference. So it must be changed to worlds fourth largest religion.

Thanks, AS Averaciousspeaker (talk) 17:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Averaciousspeaker I think you are referring to the pie-chart where Hinduism is shown 4th? Asking because there, it show Irreligion as third - which is I guess not a religion! Asteramellus (talk) 19:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi,
I think it needs to be changed either the pie chart or the main page.
Creating a lot of confusion.
The pie chart says the numbers are for the group followers.
And in the irreligion section we do see atheist etc mentioned.
Kindly do the needful change.
Thanks, Averaciousspeaker (talk) 20:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The graphic that you are quoting on that page shows "irreligion" as the third largest in the pie chart, which that page also doesnt consider in its "largest religions" list. Both pages call it third largest. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 17:13, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"Oldest religion"[edit]

@Helheimrr: the sentence "Hinduism has been called the oldest religion in the world" originally read "Hinduism is the oldest religion in the world." I think you and me agree that that's incorrect. Yet, it is what a number of sources say, and it is also a popular (mis)conception; therefor, it's relevant. The nuance "has been called" is correct, and leaves room for nuances and explanations. But your proposal "the oldest religion still practiced" is factually and grammatically incorrect, and not what the sources say:

This is your fourth attempt to change this sentence, disregardkng the sources; please stop your slow edit-warring. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 19:14, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Everyone knows that the oldest religion in the world is Judaism, which was instituted by God when he created the world 6,000 years ago. Achar Sva (talk) 01:48, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Let us deign to leave personal biases aside. I do not prioritise Wikipedia as my ultimate raison d'être, which may explain the 'slow edit-warring'.
Indeed, we both seem to concur that Hinduism is not the oldest religion in the world. I argue that, as one of the world's oldest religions, a description of Hinduism in this context is better suited if we were to append the modifier 'still practised' — which, as a matter of fact, is not grammatically incorrect. This addition improves the clarity of the sentence without introducing any textual inconsistencies or errors.
You make a correct inference in your second point, as there is evidence of prehistoric religions that predate Hinduism but are now extinct (as in Göbekli Tepe, Çatalhöyük, and Panga ya Saidi).
On the other hand, 'has been called' is unduly roundabout, fails to convey the aforementioned interpretation, and leaves the impression that Hinduism is widely regarded as THE oldest religion in the world, which is not the claim that most of these sources make — only that it may be the oldest religion in the world still in practice (common sense). @Achar Sva's assertion that 'everyone knows that the oldest religion in the world is Judaism, which was instituted by God when he created the world 6,000 years ago' is not found in broad consensus by the preponderance (and persons who choose to place their faith in science, and, thus, the confirmed fact that the Earth formed around 4.54 billion years ago). I dare say that it does not befit the 'Enlightenment spirit' of Wikipedia. Akkshadha (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was wrong with my assertion the sources bluntly state "oldest religion," or 'regarded as the oldest religion', not 'oldest religion still practiced. Of the five sources, one states "living," another one "surviving." So, "still practiced" is a correct paraphrase. Nevertheless, plain "oldest" is clearer. And "has been called" is a concession to conservative Hindus; not irrelevant here. But note that this piece of info is only in the lead; maybe we should turn it into a note for "sanathana dharma." Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"Has been called the oldest religion" is a reasonable tradeoff for being faithful to the sources while still leaving space for the nuances about their being older religions that died out. Probably should be covered in the body in a bit of detail. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 16:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Britannica says that Judaism has "an oral tradition that is nearly 4,000 years old and written texts that may be older than the Sanskrit and Avestan texts of Hinduism and Zoroastrianism". It's wrong, but that's what it says. Achar Sva (talk) 20:38, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
We could rephrase the introduction still for the sake of being concise and matter-of-fact, as I do not believe we are obliged to make concessions to conservative Hindus — or any political or religious persuasion — if only to maintain the compendious truth. I agree that the issue should be covered in the body as well.
@Achar Sva, Britannica states that Judaist oral traditions may be 'older than the Sanskrit and Avestan texts of Hinduism and Zoroastrianism' and is quick to mention that 'the ultimate answer to the question depends in good part on what is meant by the term religion and its evolution'. Helheimrr (talk) 09:41, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Britannica is wrong about Judaism - it CLAIMS to have oral traditions 4k years old but they're much closer to 2K, and the written texts are no older than the 8th century BC. Achar Sva (talk) 23:41, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

GITA-PURANs-VEDAS[edit]

Avithalani (talk) 21:24, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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