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Ling Xiaoyu was nominated as a Video games good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 4, 2014). There are suggestions below for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. |
This is worrying. I see much original research here, no referneces and previously an over abundace of fair use imagery which did not add to the article. I did some clean-up, but I'm deeply considering simply reverting to the previous concensus version if there aren't sources provided for these new edits. -ZeroTalk 18:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
The Japanese site (http://www.tekken-official.jp/tkdrpsp/character/xiaoyu.html) states that Xiaoyu practices "Piguaquan, Baguazhang, and other Chinese martial arts" (well, they are trying to say that she mostly practices piguaquan, baguazhang, and a bit other stuff mixed in). I don't know what the English profiles say, but Hakkeken = Baguaquan (i.e. Baguazhang), Hikaken = Piguaquan (Japanese readings of Chinese characters), so...
Edededed 14:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Miharu Hirano is a palette swap with no storyline. Her article should be merged with Ling's. Michael Mad 17:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot 15:22, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
She grew 1 inch from TK3 -> TK4 XD Shrine Maiden (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
There's an image of Miharu on the Xiaoyu page, but no image of Xiaoyu? I see one was deleted a while back, could we get a new one from somewhere? cncplyr (talk) 11:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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I can't say I'm too familiar with the Tekken series, but it looks like an interesting read. I'll be glad to give this a review. Red Phoenix let's talk... 14:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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Upon review, it looks like there's a lot to be done here. I can't even honestly feel comfortable putting it on hold, to tell you the truth, because as it stands the article currently has notability concerns and is missing important pieces. As such, I have to fail this article. I'll give it a full comprehensive review below in order to assist with its development.
Overall, I don't feel I can stick this article on hold because it's missing a significant amount of structure. A development section is, in my opinion, necessary for the notability of this article, and the appearances section is rather "scattershot" with OR and should be organized by game (a paragraph per game, but not a subsection). The missing pieces are going to take a while to compile, but hopefully the notes provided here will help to develop this article, which certainly does have potential. I am willing to adjust it to C-class, in light of this review, but it's not GA material just yet. Red Phoenix let's talk... 16:05, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
"This is actually a requirement on the basis of notability for fictional characters: development and reception are the two essential categories for establishment of notability of a fictional character, not just reception." Citation needed.
"I don't see anything here about the way Ling Xiaoyu was designed, who designed her, etc." And where did you see such information?
Contrary to a popular meme, the only things that are needed to be sourced on Wikipedia are the things that were challenged or likely to be challenged, and things like quotes and statistics. Applies to GAs too. Sources: Wikipedia:Good article criteria#Criteria, Wikipedia:Reviewing good articles#Assessing the article and providing a review. Exact quote: provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines;. If you see any "counter-intuitive or controversial statements", you need to point them out specifically. --Niemti (talk) 15:51, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
All you wrote is completely irrevelant, this article isn't all "simply plot summary", and "such as its development and reception" does not mean "development and reception are the two essential categories for establishment of notability of a fictional character, not just reception" as you implied (see the definition of the English language phrase "such as" in a dictionary).
For revelant guidelines regarding what needs to be referenced in GA type articles, see:
If there are any such statements "likely to be challenged" anywhere in Ling Xiaoyu#In video games, you should identify and point them out "based on your experience".
And if you information that is "not your responsibilty" does not exist, do you except people to magically create it how exactly?
"In the publisher fields in cite web templates, list the publishing website, not a url. In other words, list IGN, not Guides.ign.com." Tell this to Wikipedia-approved reference filling bot Webreflinks (clickable from the bareurls template). Also, citation needed for this statement, too. --Niemti (talk) 16:18, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm not "gaming" anything. Do you reject Wikipedia:Good article criteria#Criteria and Wikipedia:Reviewing good articles#Assessing the article and providing a review in favour of your all guidelines or something? In that case, please read this: Wikipedia:Reviewing good articles#Imposing your personal criteria. --Niemti (talk) 16:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh, and if you didn't get it: info about the creators, development, etc just isn't available for Tekken characers. There's nothing even in my artbook I just checked out. As a part of your personal criteria (Enthusiasm in wanting an article to be the best it can be is admirable, but take care not to impose conditions for passing the article, perhaps based on your own stylistic preferences, that exceed the criteria.), you demanded Kokoro magically provide you something that doesn't exist. --Niemti (talk) 16:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
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