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As of December 2023

December wages with Christmas/end of year bonuses are not representative as they increase sharply and then decrease sharply in January. These fluctuations are one of the reasons why quarterly salaries should be used instead. Please correct the Russian wage to around 720€. Which are the real values of the situation in this country! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kornelius111982 (talk • contribs) 21:57, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For example in Russia in September 2023 the average wage was 70922 RUB(700EUR), October 73830 RUB (720 EUR), November 73383 RUB (716 EUR), December 103815 RUB (1000 EUR). So over 30 000 RUB of difference (300EUR). That's HUGE! And not Coherent. An average should be calculated: (70922 + 73830 + 73383 + 103815) / 4 = 80 487 RUB (800 EUR)! You have one day to perform the changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kornelius111982 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Russia, according to Rosstat^[1], for the year 2023, the average wage is, in RUB (EUR): Jan 2023: 63260; Feb 2023: 65094; Mar 2023: 71334; Apr 2023: 71204; May 2023: 72851; Jun 2023: 76604; Jul 2023: 71419; Aug 2023: 69439; Sep 2023: 70922; Oct 2023: 73830; Nov 2023: 73383; Dec 2023: 103815; Average 2023: 73709 RUB (737 EUR) according to Rosstat.

Completely agree. Checked the data and at least in russia December wages are roughly 40% higher than the yearly average every year, it takes multiple years for yearly average wage to catch up to December. Using monthly data that includes all year's bonuses into a single month would skew the data wildly. JorisLTU (talk) 12:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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North Macedonia new data: https://www.stat.gov.mk/PrikaziSoopstenie.aspx?rbrtxt=40 39 998 MKD (651 EUR) <https://www.stat.gov.mk/PrikaziSoopstenie.aspx?rbrtxt=40</> 185.83.252.88 (talk) 12:00, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done --TheImaCow (talk) 14:01, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Insist on using the archived version from https://web.archive.org/web/20240114171733/https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Turkey

because for now the current version has become an unreliable source, conviently https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Turkey

Even so, the archived version has as avg net monthly 21,702.23 TL for Jan 2024, that in no sensible conversion rate does it reach the 800-1000 euro range that they claim

Edits in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage&diff=prev&oldid=1209679779&title=List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage&diffonly=1

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage&diff=prev&oldid=1209680250&title=List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage&diffonly=1

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Asian_countries_by_average_wage&diff=prev&oldid=1209771976&title=List_of_Asian_countries_by_average_wage&diffonly=1 2A02:587:7246:A000:1C45:DDA1:B9C9:C6E8 (talk) 20:43, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Archive is from 14 January 2024, that one euro according to google traded for 32.9 TL then, so 21,702.23 TL is 659 euro 2A02:587:7246:A000:1C45:DDA1:B9C9:C6E8 (talk) 20:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These individuals are getting out of hand :( JorisLTU (talk) 00:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Even though we talked about this already, I want to clarify that most countries here used Numbeo as a source before too. What seemed to be more bogus that day was using an "average" data that is lower than minimum data.

Plus, I don't know anything about Orange-Puppy-2221, but all my edits were based on reliable sources (or other Wikipedia articles), I even reverted his/her contributions for not having any source(s). Mavreju (talk) 10:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a nationalistic person, but a realistic one and it's just that writing an average data that is lower than minimum seemed absurd to me so I tried to add every latest source that I can add. I never vandalised or used bogus sources. I even archived/translated my sources for future usages. But anyway, I'm done with this article. Feel free to update as you wish. Mavreju (talk) 10:47, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was official source listed in the page. When updating use the same source and latest data instead of non official sources with future (Like Q3 of 2024) data. JorisLTU (talk) 08:56, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There was Numbeo source long before I added it and there was never a Q3 of 2024 in my sources. Please get your facts straight.

I've been an editor for 12 years. I don't remember but I could've made a typo and if I ever made a typo, I would immediately revert it.

Saying average data being lower than minimum is normal does not suddenly become normal when you say it many times. Like I said, I'm done with this article. Set it to €1 if you wish. Mavreju (talk) 09:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some countries release monthly updates for average wage but using those is problematic given that some countries got highly varying wages mostly in December. December introduces yearly bonuses and are not representative as an average wage figure. Next January's average wage can be as much as 20-25% lower than December and the bonuses are given out for an entire year meaning that they're not December's compensation almost at all, roughly speaking 1/12th of the December bonus is for December. For that reason quarterly wage updates are just more accurate. I just noticed there's already a topic about this on the talk page. JorisLTU (talk) 11:56, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

100% agreed. Would be great. Mavreju (talk) 06:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Polish currency has greatly strengthened over the past year. The average gross salary (PLN 7.767) converted to EUR is therefore 1,813.53. 62.177.111.116 (talk) 22:18, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]