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Hi, 172. We need to look more closely at the Yeshitela article. At the moment it is a very sunny portrayal of a very controversial figure, and does not include much of the very conspicuous criticism of the man-- and the criticism it did include was poorly written and unsourced. Let's work on this together to find something everyone can agree on. I have put up an NPOV notice in the mean time, hoping to stop any future edit wars between you and the anonymous editor.
As for your removal of my edit from yesterday, you will notice that it was hardly vandalism. I removed Secretary Cisneros' praise of Yeshitela for several reasons.
First, it was irrelevant. Yeshitela has indeed been a major figure in St. Petersburg politics for years. Cisneros' kind words about Yeshitela are interesting, but they hardly represent a major event in the man's life, or a significantly prominent or deep commentary on his leadership. It might be reasonable to mention Cisneros' praise as part of a sentence regarding the reaction to the riots, but it is not appropriate to include it as prominently as it has been.
Second, the source is unfortunately not credible. The St. Peterbsurg Times, as you have suggested is a great source when news is cited. Elijah Gosier, however, is an opinion columnist, not a reporter. His column is interesting, and should be included in external links. It is not, however, an encyclopedia-quality source for article text.
I think removal of these sentences would be a good first step. Let me know what you think-- and Happy New Year if you are among those celebrating today. Cheers. ALC Washington 23:10, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
It would be great to even this article out with some slighlty less biased information- This article might as well have been handed out (by Yeshitela) during Yeshitela's mayoral run. The quote from Penny Hess and the personal section as a whole are especially hard to swallow.
please use inline refernces to validate the statements---Halaqah 12:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
This is all I have time for today, maybe someone else can tidy up the Advocacy section. --Uncle Ed 15:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
He was the only article in the category that was not a party and his APSP is already included. --Sauzer 15:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Is this person notable? Dominick (TALK) 20:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
good question.
Some 10,000 google hits. 125 google news hits (the vast majority are the St. Petersburg Times bashing the man as a troublemaker). 15 google books hits. 10 google scholar hits. Notability as an US propagandist appears arguable, but somebody would need to actually argue it. dab (𒁳) 15:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
How are these edits relevant? [1] This is not an article about a teenage motorist killed nearly 13 years ago. To my knowledge Yeshitela has never disputed the finding that the young man was suspected of drug possession. 172 | Talk 23:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
In your version, you find those facts relevant. In the other version, people have found relevant to note thatYeshitela came under national attention in October-November 1996 when civil disturbances in predominantly African American South St. Petersburg were triggered by the police killing of Tyron Lewis, an 18-year-old unarmed African American motorist.
an 18-year-old who had an active felony warrant and was found with cocaine in his pocket, was shot after hitting a police officer with his car while trying to flee a traffic stop.
Both versions are factually correct; only that from your version one would conclude that the policeman just went crazy and shot the poor guy, from my version we learn that the guy had first 'hit the police officer with his car'. Admittedly, the longer version should be curtailed and the sentence changed to improve the language. --Miacek (t) 11:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Indeed, but the next sentence says Yeshitela condemned the killing as the culmination of a long pattern of repressive and racist measures by the St. Petersburg Police Department in African American neighborhoods, and rallied support for the victim's family in the black community. in the light of passage the killing as the culmination of a long pattern of repressive and racist measures it would be useful to mention briefly, that according to a POV, the policeman, who was doing his job - though acting recklessly -, was in fact provoked.--Miacek (t) 11:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Why did he change his name and what if any significance does it have? 71.108.137.226 (talk) 01:43, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
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I'm not going to edit the article, I know nothing of the man, I only looked him up because Tucker Carlson was giving a speech somewhere and mentioned that a black nationalist socialist from Florida was being persecuted for exercising 1st Amendment rights.
The most effectual Bob Cat (talk) 13:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)