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Anybody up for writing a tutorial / manual at Wikibooks? Would end the problem of having tutorials in the external links. Joe D (t) 23:33, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I think that *one* and only one link to a podcast directory is okay and will help in dealing with people asking "why can't I list my site/podcast". A quick google search found http://podcasts.yahoo.com/ that I think would best serve the purpose. Interestingly, this Wikipedia article is the #1 google result for "podcasts", though the Yahoo site comes up in the first ten google results. I think the other top ten-listed sites (listed below) are less suitable as a general podcast directory.
I think it's worth discussing here on the talk page and reaching consensus on which podcast directory, if any, to include. I see that you do include http://www.podcast411.com, and maybe that does serve the purpose better. -Aude (talk | contribs) 01:49, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
The following was added by Xerves (talk · contribs), in its present wording it's not acceptable, but somebody may wish to rewrite it with sources so I'll keep it here. Joe D (t) 01:53, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Any chance of shortening the article and splitting some stuff off?--BozMotalk 15:30, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
People use Wikipedia for a lot more than merely definitions. They are looking for resources as well. Links to sites are constantly taken down from this article and give the users not only a better understanding of podcasting, but also a good understanding of what the technology is being used for. I've found that most big sites that have a list of "podcast directories" are either incomplete or favor commercial music. Wikipedia is by the users for the users, So please stop trying to police articles like you own wikipedia and know what's best for everyone. Let the users read what a podcast is and then link them to, not only more sites about what podcasting is, but also, sites that show the users how podcasting is being used. (posted Jan. 4 by anon i.p.)
I noticed that someone just readded the link to [Juice Receiver]. How do you get the source code to this program? Samboy 21:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Due to the recent explosion of *cast related terminology flooding wikipedia with arguably useful small articles about niche activities (Photocasting anyone?), it has been proposed on various *cast related AFD's to create something similar to a List of blogging terms for podcast-related crapola. It has been suggested to create a Podcasting genres and derivatives article and move all that crap there under a single list. Opinions? Better name for the above mentioned list article? Feedback? Also note, when (not if, but when) this list is created, all the tiny little articles related to *casting will be redirected to it, after merging the contents. Discuss. --Timecop 00:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
This re-naming, so to speak, is mentioned in the article during the discussion about the name, and does not need to be inserted into the introductory paragraph. It is not important enough to be that high in the article. - DavidWBrooks 17:36, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Creative aren't the first people to use 'personal on demand broadcasting' as an alternative explanation for the word podcast. While they certainly have a vested interest in detracting from the iPod name, they shouldn't be portrayed as personally coining a new phrase and trying to establish it. Dating back as far as mid July 2005, Scoble used the phrase 'Personal On Demand Casting' [1]. Jschuur 23:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
It was used as early as October 2004, along with another POD alternative from Doc Searls... Those were in one of my old deleted links that JoeD found... now restored as [2]. At one point all three were in the single reference with the "Scoble" anchor, which is probably how they got separated. Bob 16 January 2006
New Oxford Amercian Dictionary defines podcast as "a digital recording of a radio broadcast or similar program, made available on the Internet for downloading to a personal audio player". Also it doesnt really matter, its a stupid title anyways. Its just a news mp3 with a title that sounds like broadcast, whoopty do...No discussion should be done on this. Mac nuts, calm down the iPod doesnt matter with the name and stop the pointless villinization of Creative for trying to properly define the term. So Im changing that part...
The term was actually coined by Ben Hammersley in an article in the Guardian on February 12, 2004 [3]. The "Personal On Demand" thing is a backronym. So I'll be changing that back then. No need for false etymology. --HTH 19:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Submitted for (Community) Consideration: At the risk of providing commercial promotion for yet another profit-driven (though not nearly so) entity, might we here coin a definition for "POD" (v iPOD) as a/any "Personal Odio (pronounced "Audio") Device". "P" could also be thought to suggest "Portable"; optional, as there is no such requirement for RSS transmissions. Hopefully, keeping notions of "CASTing" safely in the hands of the "people", not the $$$'s !. re: RSS - NOT sure how to account for non-audio material. (1st-time WikiWriter) Pygar 23:39, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
REDACTION: Quite likely, inappropriate for -pedia. Sorry! Pygar 00:00, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Read this. Nicholas 19:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys, is there consensus for editors just remove (as many times as needed up to Wikipedia:Three-revert rule) a link on the external link section that a given IP/user tries to add to promote their own web site? One repeated conflict I have seen in this article is that someone adds a link to their own podcasting-related web page, I remove it, and then they put it back. When they put their link back, they go to some effort to explain how their particular web page is important enough to be included in this Wikipedia page.
The problem is this: Like most Wiki articles, the number of editors looking at a given article is relatively small. More to the point, it takes a few days for another editor besides myself to decide that a given link is self-promotional, and remove the link. I try to follow Wikipedia:One-revert rule but I feel it will help this article if I can break the one-revert rule when the editorial dispute is over whether a given link is notable enough to include in this article.
Considering that this article is the very first result of a Google search for "Podcasting", there is a lot of temtation for people, who otherwise don't contribute to Wiki, to add a link to their web site here. I think allowing for some extra vigilance in removing links to stop "external links" from becoming too spammy is called for.
Again, I will not break Wikipedia:One-revert rule on this issue unless there is consensus from other editors that doing so to keep link spam under control is OK. Samboy 20:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I have removed, for the second time, a link to (((URL removed because it's a blacklisted WEbsite and so I can't save this page with the URL on it!))) . The IP added the following comment in this edit:
Here is my reply to jrda; I may email him and tell him to discuss changes in public on the talk page if he has a disagreement.
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Hi Samboy,
Sorry for not being up on the whole 'discussions best in public thing' and I see your point about the link at the bottom of the 'what's podcasting?' article going to largblue.
Had no intention to drive commercial traffic through wikipedia, was genuinely attempting to address the issue (I find widespread) where people don't understand why podcasting is important.
I'm new media director of largeblue.com and we're producing podcasts for some interesting clients - major sports companies, underwear brands etc. While some of my colleagues have 'got' podcasting in the sense that they know what a podcast is, most simply don't understand why on earth our agency is suddenly producing lots of them.
I thought I'd share an attempt at an explanation of why podcasts are exploding as a phenomenon at the moment.
Good work keeping this page relevant - it's one of the better wikipedia pages,
James.
Why not remove ALL the external links? I'm serious.
What makes http://www.mypods.net/ and blogs.wwwcoder.com/jrda/articles/podcasting.aspx notable enough to be included? They're just explainers, like a zillion other sites these days.
http://www.musicpodcasting.org/ hasn't been updated in two months - kill it. Kill it even if it has been updated; it's unsufficiently unusual.
http://peterchen.members.grokthis.net/research ... that much-debated Podcast411, hasn't been updated in six weeks. There's nothing there worth keeping. In fact, two of the links are Podcast411 - that's definitely verboten!
This http://peterchen.members.grokthis.net/research is OK, but podcasting research is also widespread.
Adam Curry's explanation? ... hmmm, maybe keep it. But why not stick it up as an external link with his text?
Just delete them all - none are particularly impressive, none find things that people can't find very easily elsewhere, all beg for spammers to follow suit. That's my opinion, anyway - DavidWBrooks 21:06, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a link farm. --Scott Grayban 11:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
In order to minimize the number of complaints from people who want to add self-promotion links to this article, and in light of David Brook's comments above, I have whittled down the number of external links down to three. I think we really need a policy that a link can't be added unless consensus supports the addition of the link. The three links I have kept are as follows:
Samboy 21:10, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed the following link:
from the external links section. It isn't what it claims to be (a how-to collection), instead promotes a conference and provides no real information. -Zach
I think the introduction is too technical. A reader should see a clear definition in the first sentence of the article without having to know what "RSS syndication" is.
List of Podcatchers was listed as a AfD and was deleted see -> Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_Podcatchers --Scott Grayban 11:44, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi all, I just created a ref-tag-useable wiki-template for citing podcasts-- initially for use on the Lost (TV series) articles. Please take a look at Template:Cite podcast to see if it meets your needs, and if there are changes/corrections that need to be made. Thanks! -LeflymanTalk 07:39, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Information on m4a enhanced podcasts seems to be missing from the article.
This contains quite a few entries, and several external links. My normal approach is editorial chainsaw, but since I know that this page is maintained by some regulars, any one of them feel like doing it? I tend to err on the side of, well, deleting. - brenneman{L} 08:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Should there be an info box for podcasts? I've looked through the infobox list and on the pages marked as podcasts and couldn't find one, but it seems like something we should have, since podcasts are a medium just like tv shows and they are rising in numbers. JQF 17:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
That list of cool things people do with podcasts made sense when they were new and such uses were novel, but nowadays podcasts are ubiquitous and the list is pretty old-hat. I think it's time to ditch the section, in favor of a short paragraph saying how podcasting has a history of being used in different ways, ranging from school lessons to museum tours to this and that - no specific examples needed. Any reaction to that idea? - DavidWBrooks 21:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Is anyone brave or knowledgable enough to give the "comparison of podcatchers" section a first write up ? It's on the podcatcher page. Also see the talk page for some suggestions. Hope it's OK to write this here. For me, I would be willing to help write it if someone can at least put a table together, like the other "comparison of.." pages (I can't fathom how to write a table - too old ! ) thanks--Phillip Fung 11:29, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Having the Apple podcasting logo on top of the page may give a false impression of Apple's ownership of podcasting. I've therefore moved the Apple logo from the top of the page to the "Name" section, where Apple's role is properly explained.
Uly 04:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Podcast is described as a compound word in this article, but it is more specifically its a portmanteau. User: Cheeseball701
anyone know anything about the itpc:// protocol? we don't have anything on it and i can't find anything much about it on google (beyond that it is probably an itunes specific protocol for podcasting). The bellman 03:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
itpc: isn't a real protocol, because RSS uses in fact standard HTTP to get to iTunes or to Creative's ZENCast Organizer (which also has its own "home-brewn" protocol). When you install iTunes, it defines in your browser a new "protocol", itpc, so that all links beginning with itpc:// instead of http:// are handled by iTunes. It's just a way they found to have the browser pass on the link to iTunes. I have no documentation on that, though, it's just my own observation of the way it works. And sorry about having written here yesterday and "forging" my own signature. I was tired and couldn't figure out how to sign ! Niccoben 18:15, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
The current article calls 'podcast' a misnomer. I don't think the word misnomer is particularly apt or neutral termninology. Certainly the greatest uses of podcasting is by people who download their podcast directly to an ipod. The dictionary also makes mention of the fact that broadcast is not exlusively known to radio transmission [4], so I believe the "cast" portion of podcast would not be confused with the radio. As the article mentions, Apple embraced the podcasting technique in its software, and one can speculate this played a great deal in the success of podcasting (and thus the furtherance of the term). Furthermore, the word 'podcast' cannot be a misnomer because it is simply a made up word. It is what it is. I suggest we rephrase that sentence to indicate the confusion the term podcast might cause, without using a word like misnomer, which would suggest some kind of error in its formation. --Mherlihy 08:17, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Surely the "concept" of Podcasting is just "providing audio files for download to listen to at a later date" that somewhat resemble news or magazine shows or whatever. This doesn't come from 2000, or 2001. Or anywhere close. RTÉ used to provide their radio shows for FTP download [5] in a manner which is effectively identical to podcasting (email notifications could be received, although they weren't available at the time of that archive.org capture and they'd moved to streaming by the time of the next one) in 1996, and I really, really doubt they were the first. --Kiand 23:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)