This article is within the scope of WikiProject Isle of Wight, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the county of the Isle of Wight in South East England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Isle of WightWikipedia:WikiProject Isle of WightTemplate:WikiProject Isle of WightIsle of Wight-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cities, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of cities, towns and various other settlements on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CitiesWikipedia:WikiProject CitiesTemplate:WikiProject CitiesWikiProject Cities articles
I added it, I recall it as being true but it was 15 years ago, and possibly exageration. As for the chalk letters, we didn't damage them, just slightly rearrange them... 62.3.233.9 01:34, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
...a large and rundown building in the centre of town cells all kind of odd stock. It is run by a gentleman billing himself Captain Hockney.
as it seemed slightly derogatory (calling his place run-down) and not particularly informative. But if anyone's got any more info on him, and why he's worthy of special mention in the article, then bring it on. Naturenet 13:40, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
He really was called Captain Hockney, and the place wis pretty run down, although that's kinda editorial. 62.3.233.9 01:34, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
You're right - he appeared recently in the Country Press having his shop accused of looking untidy, so he's still there, but I think passing judgement on it is best left to newspapers and the Council, rather than this article. Naturenet 11:08, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I removed the reference to Celebrate Ventnor Day. As far as I know it only happened once - maybe it will happen again, but it's hardly a major event at the moment. And what about the Smuggling Pageant? I've never heard of it. Anyone else? Naturenet 22:45, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Well, celebrate ventnor day has happend more than once now, to my knowledge, so I've put it back in. It appears to be a thing for locals more than tourists. It's possible that the smuggling pagaent no longer runs. It ran up to when I left in 1994. 62.3.233.9 01:34, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I don't think either of them are running any more. I can find no reference to them anywhere on or offline, and nobody I know in Ventnor has heard of them. Plus an enquiry on iwight.com forums about Celebrate Ventnor Day brought no response. Can anyone provide any evidence that these events are real? If not, they're going. Naturenet 15:45, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The Smuggling Pageant did exist and ran for a number of years, my grandmother (now deceased) was one of the organisers. I'm afraid I don't know too much about it as I was a disinterested teenager but my father was also involved (roped in) so he might know some more. Photos https://www.flickr.com/photos/ericiw/13947331765/in/photostream/ --Heathd (talk) 09:19, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have just modified 2 external links on Ventnor. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ((Sourcecheck))).
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template ((source check)) (last update: 18 January 2022).
If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
I have just modified 3 external links on Ventnor. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template ((source check)) (last update: 18 January 2022).
If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
I have just modified 3 external links on Ventnor. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template ((source check)) (last update: 18 January 2022).
If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
I have just modified one external link on Ventnor. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template ((source check)) (last update: 18 January 2022).
If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
"...during both the Iron Age and early Roman periods" - As the Iron 'Age' is already defined as a period, shouldn't the sentence read, "...during both the Iron Age and early Roman period" (singular)?
Does St Catherines Point have an apostrophe? St. Catherine's Point seems to think so but then it also has a full stop after St, and that's contrary to MOS.
Geography
The link [[Ventnor#Flowers Brook|Flowers Brook]] doesn't go anywhere useful. Probably best to remove.
St. Catherine's now has an apostrophe and a full stop. Whatever the spelling, it should be consistent. My choice would be St Catherine's but up to you.
Climate
Remove link from St Catherine's Point and add to the first mention in the History section.
EU - write out in full (European Union) on first mention, and link.
Landmarks
"...St Boniface Down is just a kilometre north of and high above the town"' - This seems ambiguous to me. Is it also 1km high? If not, perhaps switch it to say, high above and 1km north of the town. (Just a suggestion)
I don't think esplanade needs capitals and in fact you have used it later uncapitalised. Also link on the first mention only. Unless you are making the point that that is its proper name. In which case, I would, at the first mention, say ...will be familiar to many visitors. It is backed by anesplanade (uncapitalised and linked), then there after refer to it as the Esplanade (capitalised). (again, a suggestion)
Not sure 'special school' is this week's PC term. I don't think the term is widely understood outside the UK either. Perhaps being more specific could help here? A school for (learning difficulties/autistic/physically handicapped), perhaps?
Notable people
" Karl Marx rented a house at 1 Saint Boniface Gardends" - Is this a typo? (Gardens?)
General
Throughout, there are a lot of measurements given which would benefit from a conversion template.
References
There some weird capitalisation caused by copying and pasting titles, presumably. Not a fail but would definitely benefit from having lower-case where appropriate.
Ref No 45 - Was this published by Alpine Center for Natural Hazards and Risks Prevention (US spelling)? If that's the proper name, fair enough otherwise this is a typo that needs correcting.
Ref No 126 - Not necessary for this, but I believe statistics from the ONS website are preferred.
Ref No 155 - doesn't qualify as a reliable source. Do you have anything else? Some of the other references are of dubious quality but don't reference anything controversial.
That's about it. Doesn't seem like much work but I'll put on hold for the customary 7 days. Feel free to question anything I've mentioned here. Regards--Ykraps (talk) 11:22, 26 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Again, many thanks for this. All the changes are done, except for the following remarks:
I have added the earlier link to St Catherine's Point but kept the one that's in a table, as duplicated links from tables and infoboxes are permissible, and I don't believe someone interested in the location of the climate data can reasonably be expected to have read through the history section;
Good point.
I have done the subtidal link but it does mean two adjacent links with no separating word;
That happens often and although it looks confusing, it's perfectly okay.
I have added the EU link but not spelled it out, as it must qualify as a common abbreviation under the MoS;
I have deleted the "high above" altogether, as a subjective comment
Okay.
I have moved references to the esplanade as an entity into lower case, keeping upper case just for those that are clearly to the street address;
Okay
I have dealt with the 'special' (school) point by way of a link;
Good idea.
I haven't done the measurements point; I will look into this but not sure what value it adds, especially where accurate conversions are already given?
One of the advantages is that one can be sure that the conversion is genuine and accurate. But in any event, it was more of a suggestion.
Ref 45 is a French website with an English version, which (surprisingly) uses the American spelling;
Fair enough.
I have left Ref 126 but will look at this later
As I said, it's not necessary here but I believe the ONS is considered a better reference, particularly at FAC. Again, just a suggestion, no action is required.
Ref 155 may not be a good source as far as its commentary is concerned, but it does contain a contemporary photo of the model Ventnor radar masts and planes used for the film; I would consider the photo a reliable source?
I was just hoping there was a better source available but I haven't been able to find one. I don't think this is likely to be challenged however and I'm not in the least bit inclined to fail the article on that single, minor point.
What is the objection to citations preserving the capitalisation of the source?
Purely aesthetic. In the same way that one might be picked up during an FAC source check for having some page numbers listed with a full stop and others not. As I said, not a fail.
Okay, as I mentioned at the start, I gave the article a thorough peer review, have now had a second good look and I can't see any good reason not to promote this. I hope you enjoyed the process and feel proud of your accomplishment.--Ykraps (talk) 16:20, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you kindly. A good portion of the accomplishment is yours for such diligent attention. I would hope to pursue FA in due course and will review the outstanding points meantime. Kind regards MapReader (talk) 18:20, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]