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ALT1: ... that in 1974, Leeds hosted the conference Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society where the phrases "trans.people (sic)" and "gender alignment" were potentially first publically used? Source: "Some of the terminology used at the conference would take some twenty years to become widespread. As far as we are aware, the first use of the term trans.people (sic) was when Julia Tonner referred to "the two worlds of the trans.people" (ie transsexuals and transvestites). In addition, there was also talk of transsexuals seeking 'gender alignment' and of 'trans-gender' also used as an umbrella term."https://web.archive.org/web/20230512154010/http://www.gender.org.uk/gendys/2007/39ekins.htm
Comment: The conference took place from 15-17 March 1974 - could this nomination be held go live on 16 March or similar?
Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: I strongly prefer ALT1, but could it be reworded? Something like, "...the first known uses of the phrases "gender alignment", and "trans" as an umbrella term for transgender people, were at the 1974 Transvestism and Transsexuality in Modern Society conference in Leeds?" Also, the photo isn't terribly clear at 120px - I'm guessing there are no alternatives? Prosperosity (talk) 04:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @Prosperosity: - your suggested wording was clearer, but I think the article refers to the specific phrase trans.people (I think transgender dates to 1971 in the UK), I didn't include it in a the article because of this difference. How about:
I wish there was another option, but no. The other option would be to change the ALT to include the name of the hotel, and for me to get hold of a picture of it? Lajmmoore (talk) 21:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lajmmoore: This sounds better! How about rewording the sentence as ""trans.people" to describe transgender people" or something similar, like changing the word order? The phrase "trans.people for transgender people" is a little hard to parse.
Would you be okay with no photo for the nomination? Otherwise maybe a photo from the mid-1970s of the hotel can be sourced and added to the article? (I'm guessing photos from the event are either lost to time or have no chance of being CC-BY licensed). --Prosperosity (talk) 23:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In terms of an image, I can't see an openly licensed 1970s one either on Commons or on Geograph. What I can do is see if I can take a better one of the plaque? I'd really prefer it to have an image, as they do create more visibility. I'll ping you again, once I have seen if I can get a better picture. If not we'll have to go without Lajmmoore (talk) 07:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Temporary rainbow plaque for Transvestism and Transsexuality conference held at University of Leeds in 1974, plaque made in 2018 4Hey Prosperosity, I took some new images, but the temporary plaque is now peeling, so although in higher resolution, it doesn't look great. Thoughts? Lajmmoore (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Urgh, unfortunately that doesn't look any better (and it's still not very legible at 100px). Even if we list it with the photo, I don't think the person who chooses the DYK photo would select either plaque photo. I'd strongly recommend we go forward without any photo - is that alright? --Prosperosity (talk) 20:24, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just adding a note that it would be great if it could be used on 15/16/17 March - the anniversary of the conference! Lajmmoore (talk) 10:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Great, in that case the DYK is all ready to go. --Prosperosity (talk) 20:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Article was 294 characters, and is now 2249 characters, thus more than 5 time expansion of article. Article checked for copyright violation and highest score is 9%, and is an unlikely violation. I have done my QPQ. I request that the hook be held for the main page until the article subject's birthday on 3 February, or the article subject's death anniversary of 20 March.
5x expanded by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sumner Z. Kaplan; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
A nice article about an interesting figure. I concur that there has been a 5x expansion and that I find no plagiarism here. Article meets DYK-relevant policies. Good to go. Promoter please note nominator requests for hook to be used on specific date. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Regrettably, the submitted QPQ was a review with a severe error: the article had been moved from draftspace to mainspace on the same day it was nominated, so it was new enough, however the review failed it for newness reasons. Either the original QPQ will need to be re-reviewed, or a new QPQ will be needed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:37, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
QPQ review has been successfully completed; restoring tick per review above by Ezlev. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
RightCowLeftCoast, I don't think any of these hooks are that interesting to an uninformed audience—the first two definitely do not meet the standard, and the third is fairly meh. Could you please suggest some more interesting hooks? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:57, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT3 "...that Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy disliked Massachusetts politician Sumner Z. Kaplan(pictured) after he managed a senatorial campaign of an opponent?" source: WGBH.
ALT5 "...that United States Army Reserve Brigadier General Sumner Z. Kaplan(pictured) had opposed anti-communist legislation when he was a member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives?" source: The Boston Globe
Are any of the above new hooks acceptable? If not, why not? If not, can they be approved upon?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 23:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT5 is fairly meh (a US politician opposing communism? no way!) but the other two have potential. New reviewer needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:16, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: It was a big deal that during the Cold War that an American Army officer opposed anti-communist legislation. At the time it was the norm for those in the military to oppose communism, not oppose anti-communist efforts.
On Beacon Hill, Mr. Kaplan did not shy from taking stands that bucked the prevailing mood. In the mid-1950s, when US Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin turned the red scare into something of a national obsession, the Massachusetts House passed a bill calling for public school teachers to be fired if they refused to say if they were Communists. In an unsuccessful attempt to get the bill reconsidered, Mr. Kaplan questioned its constitutionality and said it turned teachers into “second-class citizens.’’
— Bryan Marquard, The Boston Globe
Therefore if there is a want for a pro-communism during the 1950s hook, alt5 which was strikethrough'd by another editor above, would be it.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 19:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Due to delays in hook selection, this will miss the initial goal of having this hook go up on the article subject's birthday of 3 February. Therefore, once approved can this hook please be held until the anniversary of the article subject's death of 22 March?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BlueMoonset and AirshipJungleman29: Is the new review tick the appropriate tick for this nomination? Is there something wrong with the article? This delay has caused this DYKN to miss the first requested date of February 3rd, and I hope it isn't delayed so it missed the second requested date of March 22nd.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 00:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, the new review icon is appropriate: someone is needed to review ALT3, ALT4, and ALT5 since the previous three hooks have been struck; the nomination cannot pass without a review of those hooks. It is highly unlikely that it will take six more weeks to get this passed. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The problem with ALT5 is that, as written, there isn't any context as to when Kaplan was, so a layreader would not know it was unusual at the time. ALT3's source says "According to Eleanor, the Kennedys didn't speak to my grandfather for years"; I'm not convinced that this definitely says that Kaplan disliked Ted. ALT4 appears in the article and is sourced, park to [3] and rabbi and brigadier general to [4], though I'd expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT4 at 'Kaplan'. I'm happy with this running on 22 March - let's roll.--Launchballer 00:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
RightCowLeftCoast, I see that you have changed the secondary request in recent comments from 20 March to 22 March, but the article says that Kaplan died on 20 March. Shouldn't this be under 20 March rather than 22 March? If not, what's the special occasion for 22 March? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BlueMoonset:My apologies for my typo. You're correct that the subject, BG Kaplan, did die on 20 March, not 22 March.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 12:35, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've moved the nom to March 20 in the special occasion section. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Would love to IAR this to appear April 4, the anniversary of King's assassination
Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 19:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Safe House Black History Museum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: All looks good! I think the hook could be a bit more concise, but there's nothing really wrong with it and it's rather interesting! I would absolutely support this being posted on 4 April, as this is article is very relevant to that date. --Grnrchst (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC) Grnrchst (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the review, Grnrchst! I agree with you that the hook feels longish...I tried to trim it, but couldn't figure out how. If you have any suggestions, I'm wide open! Valereee (talk) 18:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT1: ... that one of the buildings that houses the Safe House Museum(pictured) was where Martin Luther King, Jr., hid from the Ku Klux Klan on this date in 1968, just weeks before he was assassinated?
Revised hook is good! I agree that the date he hid there is probably better than his date of death. --Grnrchst (talk) 21:12, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Darcyisverycute (talk). Nominated by Mach61 (talk) at 06:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Medicalisation of sexuality; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
@Darcyisverycute: New enough and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. The hook fact is in article and checks out to quote. Three passages are uncited and need citations to continue this nomination:
Because of this broad definition of sexual health, it has been argued to include an optimistic attitude towards sexual relationships and sexuality, and human rights issues such as "the capability to have pleasant and safer sexual practices that are free of violence, coercion, and discrimination".
The economic success of Viagra motivated a number of similar product trials and also prompted research into female sexual pharmacotherapy.
Blanchard's theories were influential on the development of the DSM-3, DSM-4 and DSM-5.
While it will be hard to do so, there are a few passages (not including some long terms of art and banal phrases) that are just a little too similar to Hectors [5]. The nominator might want to look and see if anything needs changing. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:03, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sammi Brie: I've resolved all the CN tags. Is any possible paraphrasing a dealbreaker? Mach61 (talk) 05:30, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sammi Brie: Is this hook approved? If not, what needs to be done to get it approved? Z1720 (talk) 17:46, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry for missing these pings. The CN fixes are fine. The hook is fine. But the close paraphrasing issues must still be resolved, Mach61 and Z1720. Please review the link above and reword or rephrase areas as needed where there is a lot of overlap. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sammi Brie: the close paraphrasing issue has been resolved. Good to go? Mach61 (talk) 21:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What's left is terms of art that can't be reworded, so yes. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Apologies I have not edited for a while. I did not receive Sammi Brie's original ping for whatever reason. Are pings in the DYK templates broken, since Sammi didn't see them either? I have left comments at the article's talk page. Darcyisverycute (talk) 00:30, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Artem.G (talk). Self-nominated at 12:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lobster-eye optics; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Comment: Grammar issues in article; copyedits needed. Also, history section doesn't mention Kaaret & Geissbuehler 1992, but that has no bearing on DYK. ALT0 is redundant to me. In English, saying "lobster-eye optics" implies that it "mimic[s] the structure of lobsters' eyes". So why not just say ... that lobster-eye optics will be used in several planned X-ray space telescopes? Viriditas (talk) 22:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey, thanks for the review! Kaaret & Geissbuehler added. I've copyedited the article a bit, but would be grateful if you'll list the issues you see. And you're right, the hook can be trimmed, thanks! Artem.G (talk) 08:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It was proposed in 1979, and first used in the Chinese technology demonstrator spacecraft Lobster Eye Imager for Astronomy Do people really use the full term "technology demonstrator"? This sounds like a Wikipedia term. I've only heard "tech demo" and "prototype", but it may just be the case that this is a new term for me. I've never seen it used in reference to a new telescope. Don't they usually just call it a prototype telescope, or is there a major difference with a "technology demonstrator" spacecraft? Something about the full term doesn't sound right to me. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
One of the sources say "SATech-01 is an exploration satellite aimed at test and demonstration of the new technologies", I think that 'technology demonstrator' is the same thing but shorter. Artem.G (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perhaps to you, but I'm not seeing any currency for that usage. I would suggest going with what most sources use and not choosing new and unusual terms. "Technology demonstrator" reads very odd to me, and I don't recall ever seeing it in the literature like this. Viriditas (talk) 21:23, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Well, I disagree - it's a common term. See for example [6]A technology demonstrator for development of ultra-lightweight, large aperture, deployable telescope for space applications, ESAThe camera has been designed as a technology demonstrator, or [7]The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope Coronagraph Instrument is a critical technology demonstrator for NASA's Habitable Worlds Observatory.. Artem.G (talk) 11:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
First major space telescope that uses lobster-eye optics is Chinese Einstein Probe, launched in 2024. That sentence is too informal and needs to be cleaned up. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, I don't understand that. What's informal here that should be changed? EP is the first space telescope with LE Thag is not a prototype, so the sentence is correct. Artem.G (talk) 21:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It reads like broken English to me, or informal discourse. If I was to formalize it for Wikipedia, I might write "The Chinese Einstein Probe is the first major space telescope to use lobster-eye optics." Viriditas (talk) 21:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Lobster-eye optics mimic the structure of the crustacean's (lobster's) eyes, that are made up of long, narrow cells that each reflect a tiny amount of light from a given direction This should be rewritten. Maybe something like: "The eyes of a crustacean are made up of long, narrow cells that each reflect a tiny amount of light from a given direction. Lobster-eye optics technology mimic this structure..." Viriditas (talk)
Done as you've proposed, thanks. Artem.G (talk) 13:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
idealized LE optic is almost free from vignetting except near the edge of the FoV Do you mean field of view? You'll need to spell things out for the general reader. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Artem.G: That's just to start, but there's a lot more. I can try to take a closer look later, but I would really recommend getting an editor who specializes in copy editing to also take a look. Viriditas (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Query: why is the picture one of a shrimp's eyes when the article is about the optics of lobster's eyes? This doesn't seem to be an appropriate picture to run for this DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's called "lobster-eye", but any crustacean eye works for the illustration. I've added "crustacean" to the article. Artem.G (talk)
I agree, but you may want to construct a footnote in the article explaining this anatomical similarity. People will easily get confused and this will just come up again. Viriditas (talk) 19:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Several space telescopes that use lobster-eye optics are under construction. Joint French-Chinese SVOM is expected to be launched in July 2024. SMILE, a space telescope project by ESA and the CAS, is planned to be launched in 2025. ESA's THESEUS is now under consideration. This is all unsourced. Viriditas (talk) 20:34, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just had another user check this out. This nomination meets and exceeds the requirements. Viriditas (talk) 00:56, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey, I missed the reply somehow, sorry for that. I didn't know about this rule, but the text I've copied from LEIA was added there by me just a few days before. Anyway, I wouldn't object if you'll fail this nomination. If not, I'll try to address all remaining comments in the next few days. Artem.G (talk) 07:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not failing this nomination. I said it meets and exceeds the criteria. I had to be sure, so I asked for additional input. There are a lot of rules and it's difficult to be mindful of them at all times, so I will often ask for help. Also, I very much want to see that cool image of crustacean eyes on the main page, so please, let's fix this article and get it ready. Viriditas (talk) 09:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nice, thanks! I've very little time this week, but I've copyedited the article a bit, and removed ambiguity about the photo (or so I hope). Artem.G (talk) 13:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Artem.G: I know you are busy, but I made some copyedits you should review.[9] I also think the large blockquote in the history section should either be paraphrased by you or cut down to its most important part. Viriditas (talk) 02:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the copyedit, everything looks good! I never saw 'biomimetics' used for LE before, but I found several articles that uses it. Artem.G (talk) 18:45, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The term and its synonyms are quite common in the literature and appear in most of your sources. For example, Hudec & Feldman 2022: "Crustaceans eyes such as lobsters, shrimps and crayfish, provide an excellent oppor-tunity for biomimicking and creating novel X-ray optics." Biomimeticsis biomimicry. Viriditas (talk) 00:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Artem.G:, do you have access to the 2018 book Remote and Robotic Investigations of the Solar System by Christopher R. Kitchin?[10] You can find copies online or in your local library. I think this source would resolve 99% of any outstanding issues as it explains the entire concept in easy to understand, everyday language and compares it to other similar technology, giving it proper context and coverage. This would greatly help our readers understand the subject. I think if you were to use this source to revise what you currently have, we could probably wrap this up and pass the hook. Please take a look when you have time. Viriditas (talk) 19:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thanks, will look into it tomorrow! Artem.G (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Artem.G: It's mostly on pp. 122-123, but there's a bit more on p. 128 regarding honeycomb collimaters. The content is fairly small, so I could email it to you, but the book itself does have some nice diagrams and graphics. Viriditas (talk) 19:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
hey, I've added a bit, please take a look. Artem.G (talk) 14:47, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Aside from copyediting, I don't think there's anything left to do at this point. Sometimes it's a good idea to have more than one hook available if another reviewer or promoter finds something wrong, but it's not necessary or required. I will try to wrap this up. Viriditas (talk) 08:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Artem.G: Copyedits needed to lead. You forgot to sync the new edits with the old ones. Lead currently says first was Chinese instead of US. Viriditas (talk) 08:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Updated, though LEIA is still important, and NASA's experiment was on sub-orbital rocket.Artem.G (talk) 08:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Lobster-eye optics can be used for backscattering imaging and is used for homeland security, detection of improvised explosive devices, non-destructive testing, and medical imaging
What about writing it this way instead: "Lobster-eye optics can be used for backscattering imaging in homeland security, the detection of improvised explosive devices, non-destructive testing, and medical imaging." Also, this seems out of place considering we are talking about space science applications. Is there a better place to put it or way to incorporate it into the article? You use it to start the section but then launch into space technology demonstrators. Is it even needed? Viriditas (talk) 08:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm leaning towards removal, at least from this section, as it is out of place. Viriditas (talk) 00:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see large parts of the "Description" section were copied from statements made by Goddard PI Jordan Camp in a 2017 NASA article by Madison Arnold, presumably in the public domain. While it may be perfectly acceptable to copy large swaths of content from free sources into Wikipedia, in practice it needs to be done carefully, with attribution, and in a way that makes the content accessible to our readers. In this case, the description is specifically out of context, as it is discussing the X-ray Wide-Field Imager (WFI), it is quoting Camp with no attribution, and it has not been altered to fit the general topic. This is why it is always best to paraphrase, even when you are presented with free content to use, and to mindfully tailor the content to the topic at hand. Viriditas (talk) 00:48, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Viriditas asked me to take a look at the page, and I'm going to give it a copyedit that I think will help. Seeing the comment just above, however, I want to say that I'm probably not going to check for close paraphrasing, but that all close paraphrasing must have been completely removed before this DYK can be passed.
I also think that the hook should be run without the image of the mantis shrimp eyes. The image does not do much to help the reader understand the telescope mechanisms, and the confusion noted above, that a mantis shrimp is not a lobster, would make for confusion on the main page. (I have no problem with keeping the image at the article.) --Tryptofish (talk) 20:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wikipedia:Plagiarism#Public-domain_sources suggests that the current use of the content is acceptable, but from an editorial POV, it may need to be cleaned up for other reasons. In other words, close paraphrasing in this particular example is allowed, but it's not something I'm used to dealing with so it's a bit confusing for me. Relevant passage: "A public domain source may be summarized and cited in the same manner as for copyrighted material, but the source's text can also be copied verbatim into a Wikipedia article. If text is copied or closely paraphrased from a free source, it must be cited and attributed through the use of an appropriate attribution template, or similar annotation, which is usually placed in a "References section" near the bottom of the page (see the section "Where to place attribution" for more details)." My initial concern was that the passage used is so far removed from its initial context that there could be some errors involved. That's one of the reasons I wanted an astronomer (or a neuroscientist!) to review it. Viriditas (talk) 20:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd have to do some digging to link to it (and don't feel like doing that), but there have been major scandals in the past about copyvios and overly close paraphrasing in DYK pages, and there is a very strong sense in the community that we don't want anything of that sort appearing on the Main Page. For me, at least, the minimum policy requirements for PD sources is too low a bar. I think a simple way to deal with it is to Google passages from the page, and look at hits that aren't WP mirrors. (I always do that when doing DYK reviews, myself.) Of course, if you have any of the cited sources in hand, you can compare that, too. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For me, at least, the minimum policy requirements for PD sources is too low a bar. I completely agree, and that's my position as well, but as far as I understand it, the current version is policy compliant, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. As for the example you requested, take a look at this source. That's where some of the content from the "Description" section comes from. As you can see, it might be accurate, and it might be relevant, but it's completely out of context of the original source. I'm not sure if I'm just being too critical and nitpicky or if this needs to be cleaned up. As I said before, this is not how I write or edit articles, so I'm not familiar with the practice of copying free content like this. Viriditas (talk) 20:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you can list any other sources like that, as well, I'll try to clean all of them up. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:07, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I believe it is limited to just three sources, numbered in the reference section itself as citation 1 (Ma et al. 2023), 3 (NASA 2017), and 4 (Zhang et al. 2022). You can tell because each citation says "Material was copied from this source, which is available under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0" or "This article incorporates text from this source, which is in the public domain." Viriditas (talk) 21:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've now completed a reasonably careful copyedit of the page, and I feel comfortable supporting it for promotion. I think it's acceptably readable for the subject matter, and it's a very interesting and encyclopedic page. I've also checked it for the paraphrasing issues. I found, and corrected, some overly close copying from the public domain NASA source. I also ran the page through the Earwig tool, to check if I had missed anything, and it passed decisively. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Same as ALT0, but without the image. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Tryptofish: Thank you, but I think we can still salvage a top-placed image. Astrophysicist Jordan B. Camp at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center has a relevant image we can use. Because the entire image is composed of three separate images and too long horizontally to use in its original form, I will just cut it up into two images and stack the two on top of one in a square-shape. This will be perfect for use here as it indeed shows a close up view of the eyes of a lobster along with the microchannel plate in comparison. I think its perfect, and I've seen similar images used on DYK before. Viriditas (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I uploaded five images here. I'm not that keen on how they turned out. If anyone wants to use them here, you know where to find them. Viriditas (talk) 20:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Note, the Mercury Imaging X-ray Spectrometer (MIXS) currently on board BepiColombo (launched 2018) apparently uses similar microchannel geometry.[11][12]Viriditas (talk) 09:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! It's seems to be almost the same, similar to that of the so-called "lobster eye" telescope, except that the channel lengths are chosen to maximise the energy-independent "straight through" component of the flux, rather than the low energy focused component, but I'll update it. Artem.G (talk) 09:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Overall: I was hoping we could use an image per the nom's wishes, but after looking into this, and even uploading new images, I don't see any that are truly conducive to the hook at the moment; the main problem was that several different editors expressed concerns about the mantis image and it did lead to unnecessary confusion. Per the above discussion, article is new and long enough, well-sourced, neutral, and copyvio free (although it incorporates public domain content per the nom). The article is presentable, and the QPQ is complete. As far as WP:DYKHOOKCITE goes, it is unfortunate, but there is no single, cited hook in the article that supports the idea "that lobster-eye optics will be used in several planned X-ray space telescopes". Yes, it is a true statement based on many different sources collected by the nominator, but the way DYK generally works is spelled out in WP:DYKG: "The hook should include a definite fact that is unlikely to change, and citations in the article that are used to support the hook fact must verify the hook and be reliable. The wording of the article, hook, and source should all agree with each other with respect to who is providing the information – if the source is not willing to the say the fact in its own voice, the hook should attribute back to the original source as well." With that said, I just spent ten minutes looking for sources that could support this hook. I could not find any. The closest source I could find to supporting this hook is this one, but it's incredibly ambiguous and isn't good enough. We need a solid hook, firmly backed by at least a single source, that is unambiguous and reliable. Since Tryptofish has shown interest in this topic, perhaps they could offer some ideas for new hooks. I notice that there's no information about the role played by the French company Photonis and researchers at the University of Leicester in bringing this technology to fruition. That could make a good hook. More information here and here. Viriditas (talk) 21:59, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT2: ... that lenses for telescopes are being designed using optics inspired by lobster eyes?
I think that's well-sourced on the page, because it's about the lens design instead of about future space missions. And I think it's hook-y. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:34, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Tryptofish: Thanks. While it is true that in general, telescope lenses are designed using optics based on lobster eye geometry, how about composing a hook that gets into the meat and potatoes of the article, describing 1) what makes the eyes of lobsters special (reflective eyes) and 2) how it was emulated, designed, and applied to X-ray optics technology for the purpose of capturing transient astronomical events? And, try to write that in only 70-160 characters. To me, that captures the heart of this subject while conveying the essential information to our readers. Are you up for writing an awe-inspiring ALT3, or do you think we should settle on ALT2? Viriditas (talk) 23:35, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was about to reply ALT2, but if we're willing to settle for not-quite awe-inspiring, then:
ALT3: ... that lenses for telescopes are being designed using optics inspired by the reflective properties of lobster eyes?
If you like that addition, OK, but I could also make a case for ALT2, because it leaves the reader with more reasons to click-through. I'm fine with either 2 or 3. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:41, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It would help ALT2 and ALT3 to eliminate passive voice. The general sense of "lenses for telescopes" skips and misses out on the entire focus on X-ray optics and the search for transients, which is what the lobster eye design makes possible, but I suppose I will have to live with that. Viriditas (talk) 00:21, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT4: ... that optics intended for X-ray telescopes are inspired by the reflective properties of lobster eyes?
If you want to get transients in there too, I'll leave that to you. :) --Tryptofish (talk) 00:33, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I can't propose and review a hook. In terms of the above, isn't it much easier and to the point to just say "that X-ray space telescopes use optics inspired by the reflective properties of lobster eyes?" Viriditas (talk) 00:37, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I had two reasons for doing it that way. First, I felt it necessary to say "intended for" because of your concern that we don't have enough sourcing for "will be used in", in ALT0. Second, I put the link to the nominated page at the beginning, because of your concern (that we discussed elsewhere) that you don't want a blue link to precede the link to the nominated page (although I suppose we could just not link to X-ray telescopes – but it does seem to me to be something that needs to be linked). In any case, my opinion is that this is DYK not FA, and it's time to declare victory and move on. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:23, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"But my list of concerns is much longer!" Viriditas reaches into his vest and pulls out a long elfin scroll, the kind of scroll you might find in Santa's workshop, which promptly unfurls and rolls across the floor, making a series of paper-like rustling sounds, until the scroll finishes unfolding, clear across the room. Viriditas (talk) 23:56, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Illustration of the 12 lobster-eye optics sensor modules on the Einstein Probe
ALT5: .. that the Einstein Probe is the first major space telescope to use lobster-eye optics, which will help locate the source of gravitational waves? Source: Arasa, Dale (December 24, 2023). "China will launch first-ever 'lobster eye’ telescope'". Philippine Daily Inquirer. Quote: "China will launch the world’s first lobster eye telescope to detect and study X-ray sources. As a result, it could help us learn more about gravity, one of the fundamental universal forces"; European Space Agency (January 9, 2024). "Einstein Probe lifts off on a mission to monitor the X-ray sky". Quote: "Thanks to its uniquely wide gaze, we will be able to catch the X-ray light from collisions between neutron stars and find out what is causing some of the gravitational waves we detect on Earth. Often, when these elusive space-time ripples are registered, we cannot locate where they are coming from. By promptly spotting the burst of X-rays, we will pinpoint the origin of many gravitational wave events."
The only problem with that hook and photo is that it's boring, but that's just my opinion. And now the focus is shifted from the optics design to the space telescope. That's probably fine though, as I don't have either time or energy to debate it. ALT4 is probably closest to the original one. Artem.G (talk) 16:47, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@ Whoever will be the new reviewer (I've been involved in revising the page and proposing hooks, so I won't be me): I feel more favorably about the nomination than Viriditas did, and I'd be fine with either ALT2, ALT3, or ALT4. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:26, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
New enough (at time of nomination), easily long enough, with adequate prose. Thoroughly footnoted. QPQ done. I note the discussion of copied prose above; Earwig still found a few copied phrases from the "cosmic ripples" NASA source, longer than I would accept from a copyrighted source, but because the source is PD and credited I think they are non-problematic. I like ALT2, but I'm having some trouble finding a clear sourced statement that lobster-eye optics are actually "inspired by lobster eyes". The lead says "based on the structure of the eyes of a lobster" but with no source, and the body of the article discusses the resemblance of the structure to the eyes of a lobster but does not state that this resemblance was the original inspiration for the structure. Can you point me to where in the article I can find the hook sourced, please? —David Eppstein (talk) 19:55, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Source 1 (Ma, et al.) [13]: "Lobster-eye optics is inspired by the structure of macruran crustaceans's eyes."
Source 4 (Zhang et al.) [14]: "Angel (1979) first proposed a design of X-ray ASM based on the imaging optics of the reflective eyes of lobsters."
Ok, that was the only remaining issue for me. New article text for hook claim and its sources verified. Good to go with ALT2 (or ALT3 or ALT4, but I prefer ALT2). —David Eppstein (talk) 21:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 14:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Turno (musician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Comment: I think ALT0 and ALT1 are pretty close to ready. I don't see ALT2 in the article, did I miss it? I like ALT0, but it's a bit lengthy. Why not just cut to the chase and say he appeared in a documentary about male suicide? Also, should his brother be mentioned? I also like ALT1, but why do we need to know the date of the range? I'm more interested in the range itself and want to know more about that. Finally, I also like ALT2, and I think it's almost perfect, but I wonder if there's an easier, shorter, more direct way to say that Skepsis began producing with the help of the grant? But it needs to be added to the article. Apologies if this is nitpicking.Viriditas (talk) 08:47, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"When he was fourteen or fifteen, his school won a grant from the government of the United Kingdom to embellish its music department, which ordered itself a number of iMacs with Logic Pro on them, which prompted Jenkins to develop an interest." - although perhaps that could be clearer. I left out his brother because I felt the hook was enough of a mouthful, but I can suggest...
...and then a prepbuilder can decide whether or not to crop it; same with the date of Turno's clothing range.
ALT4: ... that the British musician Skepsis took up production after his school was awarded a government grant?--Launchballer 09:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Overall: Please add sources for ALT0. I'm seeing two noms and only one QPQ. Copyedits to article needed ("and a Canterbury university"..."in an July 2017"..."embellish its music department"..."a number of iMacs with Logic Pro on them"). Also, like Turno, you are over-focusing on specific dates instead of a more cohesive narrative. One problem I see is that the biographical sourcing is very weak, although I note a small blurb in Billboard. Not sure what can be done to improve this. Question to ask: would this article survive a prod? Viriditas (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: What, in your opinion, are the two best, most reliable sources in the Skepsis article? Viriditas (talk) 08:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: One thing that I found odd about the Manchester's Finest article was it's description of the heavy security Skepsis faced at SFO. Having traveled through there a lot, I've found their security to be one of the most pleasant. Contrast this with the soldiers holding machine guns at JFK, which I've never gotten used to and still freaks me out, that kind of description of SFO struck me as weird. I tried to find more material about Manchester's Finest and was unable to do so. I was, however, able to confirm that MixMag has been around since day one and has been cited as a reliable source just about everywhere. Viriditas (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: Can you point me to a Skepsis or Skepsis/Turno double hook that doesn't use an interview as a source? I want to see a source similar to Bristol Post, written by journalist about the subject. The only thing I see are commercial sites which appear to be sponsors or affiliates. If you can cite me a hook about Skepsis or Skepsis/Turno that isn't an interview or a commercial sponsor, then we can move forward on this. My personal approach is to only cite interviews in hooks when the information is widely available and known from secondary sources that have already covered it. Viriditas (talk) 20:40, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've got to be honest and say I'm struggling; there's not much interesting in Mixmag, and most of the reliable sources deal with Skepsis vicariously, i.e. they either talk about Crucast or one of his works.
Incidentally, I did google "manchester's finest editor", which showed me links to Steven Pankhurst and Lee Isherwood, and then took up the site with Muck Rack, which shows the existence of multiple staff, ergo this isn't just some one-man-and-his-blog. The author, Martin Guttridge Hewitt, appears to be a regular contributor to DJ Mag. It's no Bristol Post, but I would consider it reliable.--Launchballer 12:28, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: Which source supports ALT11? It helps to add them to the proposed hook. I assume it is MF, but I just want to make sure. Viriditas (talk) 19:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, my mistake. From 'brother' to 'record' is Bristol Post, 'and' onwards is the Official Charts Company. MF did just give me an idea though.
ALT12: ... that the British bassline musician Skepsis produced his pandemic album Faith in Chaos after feeling his previous works were not being appreciated? (Source: https://www.manchestersfinest.com/music/skepsis-talks-debut-albums-relocating-to-the-north-west-and-crucast/, "Although part of this decision was born from years of making music aimed away from the sweat and strobe of a party, Skepsis confesses he also hopes the broader sounding ‘Faith In Chaos’ packs more longevity. The relentless nature of dropping tracks solely for clubs doesn’t always bode well for lifespan. “It can be quite disposable, because we’re in such a digital age, things come and go quickly. And I feel over the last few years attention spans have really declined. So artists are putting tracks out all the time but can quickly see them forgotten. I wanted to release something that would last a bit longer,” he explains. “[But] there’s always pressure to release big tracks. At the end of the day, it’s about what’s popular.”")--Launchballer 11:06, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: I like ALT11, but I dislike the use of sources here. BP only talks about Turno, while OCC is not a secondary source. If you can find better sourcing for ALT11 or convince me otherwise, I will support it. Preferably something that talks about Turno and Skepsis. As for ALT12, I don't see that particular hook in the source, but I do see some other alternatives. Maybe play around with it a bit. Viriditas (talk) 00:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
New one on me regarding OCC not being secondary. Stealth Clubshould work. Jungle Drum and Bass talks about both Turno and Skepsis but does not contain the chart position, and I'm struggling to find a post-charting source that a) talks about them both and b) has that in. (Music-news.com has the position, except it's a blatant copy-paste of an OCC prose article.) And ALT12 should be in Skepsis' quote, although it's paraphrased, so the word 'appreciated' appears in meaning only. But just in case:
ALT13: ... that the British musician Skepsis produced his pandemic album Faith in Chaos out of wanting to release something less disposable?
ALT14: ... that the British musician Skepsis uses sausage fattener in his works?--Launchballer 11:56, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I like ALT14, but isn't it slightly (but unintentionally) pejorative towards the artist given the status of the plug-in? In other words, anyone can press the button? Viriditas (talk) 21:15, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, if you know what it is already, which I suspect a layreader won't (I assumed it was a cooking implement).--Launchballer 09:23, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Right, but the thing is, all artists of his type and class use the sausage fattener plug-in, which is partly why it is a joke meme. It's ubiquitous. While I personally like the hook, I'm not sure it passes the interestingness criterion because all the DJs use it or similar effects. It also is slightly demeaning towards him (I know you didn't intent it that way), so I would say strike it. Viriditas (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There's a hook in "he released bassline for five years, then switched to drum and bass and was in the UK Top 40 within a year" but I want to verify the sourcing for it when I'm a little less sleepy. I will come back to you when I do.--Launchballer 00:55, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sorry, I'm struggling to look at this nom at the moment. I'll get back to you when I can.--Launchballer 12:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Let me try to close this out. I think you've done what you can and you've obviously put a lot of work into it. Viriditas (talk) 18:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: Let's try to reinvent the wheel again. I think your original approach with ALT0 was your best one so far, and I think you know that, but the way you worded it and the sources aren't all that great, so let's come back to that now with a variation on it, focusing on the Ultra Records writer's camp collaboration. This means writing about Skepis, Turno, Charlotte Plank, and mental health in one hook again. I see you've got the interview on UKF to support it, but I would like to see one other reliable source about the collaboration that isn't an interview, establishing some kind of independent notability. Would the Bristol Post fit that description? Viriditas (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
About the "Rave Out" collaboration, the best sources for that are Dansende Beren, Jungle Drum and Bass, and in a much smaller form DJ Mag. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, I suspect that it being written at a writing camp would not be interesting enough for a hook (most Top 40 tracks are written that way, and I suspect a merciless prepbuilder would take it out), but I've reordered the Artistry section somewhat.
ALT15: ... that prior to his Skepsis and Charlotte Plank UK Top 40 single "Rave Out", Turno had appeared in a documentary about male suicide? (For the chart position, see OCC/Stealth Club, and for the documentary, see Bristol Post.)--Launchballer 11:20, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Notes
LinkedIn is used appropriately per WP:RSPLINKEDIN ("uncontroversial self-description").
Has had a single or album on the UK Singles Chart.
Has contributed to an album with DJ Q and Jamie Duggan that was distributed by The Orchard, a subsidiary of Sony Music.
Overall: Prefer ALT10. Please add sources for ALT0. QPQ applied. Good work on the article, but the prose is a bit stiff and robotic and could use some copyediting and prompting. For example, you don't say that Mind is a mental health charity, and you can't expect the reader to know what all of these things are without simple prompts. Also, do we need to know the exact day that his brother killed himself? Maybe the month and year would suffice. Your lead is a bit terse given all the content that you have. Anyway, just add the sources for the hooks here and we will go from there. Regarding hooks, I like ALT1, but the sourcing is really bad. I would not approve this based on the current source. For claims like this, it's best to use secondary sources establishing notability. Simply quoting the subject themselves saying "we have our new clothing range dropping today, go check that out" isn't good enough, IMO. ALT2 and ALT4 have similar problems, but I do like ALT4. I think using interviews as sources is tricky because they are borderline primary/secondary sources depending on how they are used. My own take is that for DYK at least, we need to raise the bar and demand secondary source coverage to prove importance and significance. One way to approach this is to start with the source itself. Looking at your article, you've got the Bristol Post article[16] which is a secondary source jumping off point for a hook. In other words, you have a journalist, Assiah Hamed[17] who has written about the subject. I would start there, writing a hook around what she says, not the cited quotes from the interview. There's a difference. We want to try to create hooks independent of the subject from the POV of the author writing about them. Aside from the Bristol Post, the biographical sourcing is still pretty weak.Viriditas (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The QPQ I supplied was for a double nom, so I'm using both for this. ALT0 and ALT3 use [18] for the song charting and [19] for his We Are England participation. I've attempted to loosen Turno's prose a bit; I've added an extra source specifically for the fact that he set up the clothing range, I would argue that its date is uncontroversial enough that the interview could be used for that (it doesn't really serve him whether it's seven years old or seven days). And Skepsis passes WP:MUSICBIO#C2 as Rave Out charted, although that didn't stop Dan Fable, and I should probably do some more work on it.--Launchballer 01:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. I made the QPQ explicit up above. Will continue the review later, as I'm off to work. I would encourage you to create hooks using only secondary sources like the Bristol Post. Viriditas (talk) 02:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: I think you could make a great hook about mental health (or other things) using what Hamed writes in the BP. I don't see any reason why I wouldn't pass such a hook. Viriditas (talk) 08:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT5: ... that the British jump-up musician Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to commemorate one year since the suicide of his brother, with all profits going to the mental health charity Mind? (date per UKF, everything else per Bristol Post).--Launchballer 12:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)"A year after the passing of his brother, Fabio Moliterno, Turno debuted his latest single What’s On Your Mind? , a hip-hop and grime track featuring SJ Loq, Myleedan, Phizi and Too Lippy. The follow-up D&B version of the tune, which will be released on October 10, will have all its profits donated to mental health charity, Mind. Turno (real name Francesco ‘Franko’ Moliterno) hopes that the song based on Fabio’s story can encourage other men to open up and talk. Ultimately he hopes that this can help spark meaningful discussions and urgent action.Reply[reply]
ALT6: ... that the British jump-up musician Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to mark one year since the suicide of his brother?--Launchballer 22:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I like it, but several things: 1) don't link to anything before your article because it will steal views. You can still do it, just discouraging you from doing it. 2) I still think you can work in the profits going to a mental health charity by chopping out "the British jump-up musician" and not directly naming "Mind" as the charity. Try it. Viriditas (talk) 22:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT7: ... that Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to mark one year since the suicide of his brother, with all profits going to charity?--Launchballer 22:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That looks good. As long as the source supports it and it's cited in the article, I will pass it. I hope I'm not going to get accused of promoting my own hook here, as you clearly created it in toto. Viriditas (talk) 22:47, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've done some more work on Skepsis, so it should now look a little healthier. What else do I have to do to get it promoted?--Launchballer 12:58, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: Working on it now. Sorry, I've had a busy couple of days, and I'm only just now getting back into the thick of things. Viriditas (talk) 00:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: ALT5 and ALT7 might need to be adjusted, perhaps just by removing references to the date (September 2022). BP says that it wasn't the original September 2022 version of the song that had its profits donated, but the later October 10 version.[20] Of course, there's a possibility that this was also retroactive, we don't know based on the BP source, but given what we do know here, maybe the dates aren't necessary? Viriditas (talk) 00:39, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That article says "The follow-up D&B version of the tune, which will be released on October 10, will have all its profits donated to mental health charity, Mind." but it also says "all profits from Turno’s recent project will be donated to Mind", which I thought meant the original?--Launchballer 08:04, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It honestly isn't clear what they are referring to, and that tidbit sounds like an editor failed to copyedit that part and left it in by mistake, I don't know. Wouldn't the "recent project" refer to everything after October? If we stick to just the facts that we can easily discern from the BP article, then it's clear that the original version of the song was used to raise awareness of mental health and the remix had its profits donated to Mind. Does the recent projects also refer to profits from his performance at Tokyo World? Keep in mind, one way this could easily be fixed is by changing ALT5 to " with all profits from the remix going to the mental health charity" and ALT7 to "with all profits from the remix going to charity?" I don't feel too strongly about this, but it did come to mind when I read the source. Viriditas (talk) 08:19, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would say that given that sources disagree, it's better to leave it off.
ALT8: ... that Turno released "What's On Your Mind?" in September 2022 to mark one year since the suicide of his brother?--Launchballer 09:12, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: We could go with that, but I think what would be most interesting is just to keep it simple with a hook saying Turno lost his brother to suicide and now uses his music to raise awareness of mental health and donates money towards that cause. How you manage to say all that in one hook, I leave up to you, but I'm sure it would be a good hook, and frankly, that's what you've been trying to do all along. So maybe, forget about the name of the song and the date and focus on the essential nature of what Turno is doing. Viriditas (talk) 10:02, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Launchballer: Perfect. No need to say "released" twice, just say "released a charity record and a UK Top 40 single". One use of "released" works for both. Add that sourced to the article (lead is the easiest place since most of that is already there, but you can add it anywhere you want) so the hook is explicit and we are good. If you don't, someone is going to say "I don't see that in the article" and it will just languish here. Viriditas (talk) 10:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: QPQ is unneeded as this is only my third nom.
Created by DarkNight0917 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Asakusa Culture Tourist Information Center; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: It's concerning that there some references are not reliable. These are refs #7 (Tokyo Tourist Information) and #15 (Asakusa Station). If other references can be used to replace this, aside from a better hook, then we can proceed. Howard the Duck (talk) 00:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC) All good now. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:04, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Howard the Duck: I have addressed the referencing issues and removed the problematic sources. For the hooks, I came up with a few other options:
Upon checking, there are still a couple of problematic refs, this time from Japan Travel (refs #7 and #18). I suppose facts like what the motto of the building is and that you can buy refreshments there is rather mundane, but the center offering maps and brochures in other languages rather than Japanese seems important, as it gives the impression that the center also caters to foreign tourists and not just domestic ones. If that can be replaced, this is good to go. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:08, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Howard the Duck: Okay, we'll go with the third suggestion then. I have replaced the Japan Travel sources. - DarkNight0917 | (t/c) 00:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Lk95 (talk). Nominated by Your Power (talk) at 04:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Yes, And?; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
@Lk95 and Your Power: A QPQ is still needed for this nom. If this is not provided in a few days, this will be marked for closure. Z1720 (talk) 15:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Doing a review. New enough at time of nom, no copyvio, long enough, two free use images (one in infobox and one of music video). To my understanding these should be ok, with the music video's image having a weaker case. QPQ done, sourcing good, article itself mostly good (there's some cleanup work that needs to be done, a good chunk of unsourced statements. Presumably this happened after your work). My main concern is the hook; it expresses I think a subjective statement without attribution to a source written in, potentially going against WP:VOICE. The hook could potentially be reworded to include an inline attribution or potentially just rewritten. My two cents, but as an unfamiliar reader I'd assume "her new x" implies it matches some qualities of her previous work, presumably popularity. I'm not familiar, do you think that the song achieved similar popularity to Thank U, Next, looking back now around a month later? Unfortunately this review came a bit late; maybe the speculative voice in the hook would work better if it had been reviewed sooner. toobigtokale (talk) 02:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Lk95 and Your Power have both been editing Wikipedia but have not returned to address the above. Unless they comment here, or someone is willing to adopt this nomination, this should be closed. Z1720 (talk) 18:26, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hook is not accurate, because it wasn't an actual horse. Gatoclass (talk) 19:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT1: struck for privacy reasons, see history
ALT2: ... that the British DJ Arielle Free was suspended from BBC Radio 1 for a week after criticising horsegiirL's "My Barn My Rules" live on air?
ALT3: ... that horsegiirL's "My Barn My Rules" appeared on Dazed's "20 best tracks of 2023" list?--Launchballer 22:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Overall: All three alts verified; my preference is for alt1. Gatoclass (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pulled over BLP privacy concerns. There is no ironclad secondary RS about the real name, and mentioning it seems to be against the subject's wishes. We definitely should not run ALT1, and I don't think we should have the subject's real name in the article at all. —Kusma (talk) 09:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A BLP privacy concern is a DYK showstopper. Schwede66 09:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for picking that up, Kusma. In reviewing the nomination, it never even occurred to me that the nominator might not have an ironclad link for so basic a fact as the identity of the artist, so did not check that particular hook fact. It seems from this point I cannot even rely on nominators to know the identity of their own subject, and I am really pissed about that because it just made all my future reviewing that much harder. Gatoclass (talk) 09:57, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gatoclass, I would have likely missed this too, but fortunately Bernzrdo asked the right question on the talk page (after you had approved the nom). Also, I think the identification of the subject's name is likely correct, but it is all WP:SYNTH and not usable on a BLP, certainly not against the subject's wishes, and doubly certainly not on the Main Page. —Kusma (talk) 10:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you Kusma, and yes, I very much agree, it's lucky that this was caught before it went to the MP. Gatoclass (talk) 10:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've expanded this slightly, although I'm slightly worried about the number of quotes in her early life - although arguably in this case, they really should be attributed.--Launchballer 11:56, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Another ping to Gatoclass: should this be closed, or has the BLP issue been dealt with in a satisfactory manner, in which case perhaps a new icon is appropriate so the nomination can proceed? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that the Friends meeting houses in both Lewes and Horsham(pictured) were built in the 1780s for Quaker communities which have met continuously in those towns since the 17th century? Source: Reports from the Quaker Meeting Houses Heritage Project for the respective meeting houses, as cited in the articles: ref [1] for Lewes, ref [9] for Horsham; but for Horsham perhaps more clearly expressed in the Victoria County History of Sussex (ref [5]).Original hook struck; see separate approved hooks below
Comment: Alternative hooks welcome; I'm also open to splitting into two separate nominations if suitable hooks can be found for both.
Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:07, 13 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lewes Friends Meeting House; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Both articles recently created when nominated, and well developed past the length requirement. There are a few stylistic issues, most noticeably the overuse of unattributed quotations, especially in the lead of both articles. (Per WP:MOS#Attribution, the reader being able to identify the source of a quotation via an inline citation is the bare minimum, not the standard. Statements for which attribution isn't needed would probably better be presented in Wikipedia's own voice. It's not a major policy violation, though, so I won't hold it against the DYK nom.) I found the articles a bit hard to follow, though nothing actually wrong with the writing. Maybe it's the subject matter. The Horsham article notes discrepancies among sources regarding the construction date, but then takes the Quaker Meeting Houses Heritage Project's as the authoritative one, though its report does not go into detail on this. Unless there are other sources that comment on the Heritage Project's authority (and the date by extension), I would suggest that the article be reworded to take a less absolute stance. Verification of the hook would depend on such clarification. (It's not the most interesting, but the term "Friends meeting house" is about enough to pique interest by itself. Also, Friends meeting house should be linked in the article leads if possible, per WP:CONTEXTLINK, though it has citation needed tags so I'd understand not wanting to link them in DYK.) --Paul_012 (talk) 17:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Paul 012: Thanks for reviewing. I have re-reviewed all the sources and updated the text accordingly. The correct date was first recorded in the Victoria County History, citing Marsh's Early Friends in Surrey and Sussex, which I believe was published in 1886, and is then given in all other sources, including the Heritage Project (the date did not, as I had originally written, originate in the Heritage Project report; I have corrected this.) The incorrect 1834 date was given solely in the original (1965) version of the Buildings of England: Sussex and for unknown reasons was then repeated in the Horsham Historic Character Assessment report document (because according to its footnotes the HHCA cites the Victoria County History, which has the correct date!). Incidentally the Heritage Project was a recent, multi-year, in-depth survey of every Friends meeting house, commissioned by Historic England and Quakers in Britain (the national organisation) and undertaken by qualified architects, so its statements/conclusions are essentially definitive. Most quotes now have a citation directly after them; any which don't are supported by the citation at the end of the sentence in question. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Hook facts largely verified, but taking another look, I think it may be better to run these separately. The old place being too close to a slaughterhouse could work for the Lewis house. For Horsham, if the part about the headstones being used as paving slabs was mentioned in the article, that could be a good hook.
The issue with quotations here isn't that they need footnote citations (which are already provided), but that their frequency rather disrupts the flow of the text. If the verbatim wording of a quotation is important, it should be attributed within the text, e.g. "... ", according to such-and-such, or Such-and-such described it as "...". If such attribution isn't warranted, the statement should probably be paraphrased. Or for simple uncontroversial statements, just present it without quotation marks. With single words or short phrases especially, putting them in quotation marks has the effect of "scare quoting". For example, in the Horsham article, the description On the "simple" front (east) elevation seems to insinuate that the Wikipedia writer disagrees with the description. As I said though, these are suggestions for improvement that I won't regard as conditional for DYK. (And FYI, editing a comment to add a ping doesn't work; a notification is only sent when the edit includes a new paragraph and signature; see Help:Fixing failed pings.) --Paul_012 (talk) 19:21, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Paul 012: Thanks for your suggestions (plus the tip about pings). I have made some tweaks, possibly with more to come tomorrow when I have time to re-read fully. Based on your suggestion I will submit the following ALT hooks, forming two separate nominations; both are cited to the Heritage Reports and I have added citations in the relevant places: Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:43, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
...that Lewes Friends Meeting House, built in 1784, replaced an earlier building whose proximity to a slaughterhouse made it "unfit to sit in"?
Thanks. Both hooks are verified and within length. QPQ has been provided for both articles. I'll go ahead and approve the above two hooks, to run separately. The picture is clear, used, and freely licensed, so it can run with the Horsham hook if desired, but I'll leave it to Hassocks5489 to add the (pictured) if so (or add another one for Lewis house). --Paul_012 (talk) 15:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Many thanks; I have struck out the original hook and have added (pictured) to the Horsham hook. The Lewes picture doesn't really work well enough at thumbnail size to be worth including. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:50, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that the British political theoristChris Armstrong calls for a "blue new deal" to secure ecological resilience for the ocean and a justblue economy? Source: From this review of Armstrong's Blue New Deal: "He argues it is time to rethink our relationship with the ocean to foster a resilient environment and a just economy at sea."
Reviewed: TBD
Comment: I think the phrase "blue new deal" is a great one; I hope you agree!
Moved to mainspace by J Milburn (talk). Self-nominated at 18:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chris Armstrong (political theorist); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
You have over 100 DYK credits and thus need to provide a QPQ before this can go anywhere. Schwede66 16:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: He is the author of several books, including 2017's Justice and Natural Resources and 2022's A Blue New Deal Is this a common format or style in the UK? I much prefer the readability of He is the author of several books, including Justice and Natural Resources (2017) and A Blue New Deal (2022) For some reason, dates with apostrophes look exceptionally strange on my screen. Not sure why. I tried to review this nom and got stuck at the dates. Heh. Viriditas (talk) 08:27, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. I just briefly read through the article and didn’t notice any problems, but I haven’t spot checked the sources just yet. I did notice that the bit about "Armstrong's central practical proposal is the need for a 'World Ocean Authority' to oversee the high seas" is very timely, and it’s a point I’ve heard come up again and again in any discussion about ocean resources. In fact, it’s very possible that I heard Armstrong himself discuss it a few months ago, I can’t recall, but I wonder if you might consider submitting an ALT1 along those lines. Also, would you consider submitting more than one QPQ to help with the backlog? I just submitted four for my last submission. I realize that’s asking a lot, but even two would help. Viriditas (talk) 09:29, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's been two weeks without any action here. Josh Milburn, are you planning on proposing a new hook as suggested? Also, Viriditas, are you waiting for the new hook, or will you be finishing the review as the nomination stands now and offering a status icon? Thanks to you both. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I’m happy to compete a review later tonight. Viriditas (talk) 02:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: per our recent discussion, can I still review this nomination even though I have added ALT1 to remove "the" and delink several words (compare with ALT0)? Viriditas (talk) 20:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Overall: Bio is slim on details. Educational attainments are sourced to his CV, which is somewhat unusual, but not unheard of or entirely prohibited. It does indicate underlying sourcing issues, such as lack of secondary source coverage. Armstrong meets and exceeds the notability barrier given his books, reviews, and awards. The nominator also did a good job summarizing his work in this short article. Reliable secondary sources support the hook, but this is only transparent on the review page, not in the article, which uses grouped, bundled, bulleted sources, a format which myself I enjoy, but use very carefully, often in terms of highlighting PST citations, otherwise it can appear confusing or obfuscating to others (as it does here). One possible and quick solution, is to use the "quote" parameter in the template, so that anyone checking the article can easily verify the material. With all those concerns, I still think the article passes DYK, but I realize there may be others who disagree with the use of a CV as a source in first paragraph without secondary sources supporting it. My personal take is that the information is non-controversial and easy to verify and should be allowed in this particular instance, but not encouraged. With that said, per my additional comments above, I have altered ALT0 by removing "the", delinking "political theorist" as unnecessary (WP:SEAOFBLUE), while linking "ecological resilience", removing the link to "just", and keeping the link to the "blue economy" in ALT1. While it is true that this hook follows the original source material (cited above) very closely, I think it uses just enough common words and phrases for it to be used in its present form. I think the nominator follows the original source too closely, and should try to avoid that going forward, but I also think this amounts to an acceptable paraphrase, but just barely. With all that said, I prefer ALT1, my recommended formulation, which the doyenne of DYK has assured me is defensible. If this is not the case, please let me know. I should note, that I previously asked the nominator for additional hooks, partly in the event that issues are found with ALT0. None were forthcoming, so I will let the chips fall where they may. Additional eyes confirming this nomination would be appreciated given the above. If you're still reading this at this point, then I apologize for keeping you here. Viriditas (talk) 02:36, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for this detailed review, and sorry I've been quiet. I am happy with ALT1 other than the use of a false title, which I have corrected. I like your idea of using the quote parameter; I will do this. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:12, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No worries. I'm glad everyone is happy and we can move on to bigger and better things. Viriditas (talk) 18:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that the Physica by Hildegard of Bingen was the first book on natural history composed in Germany? Source: Magner, A History of Medicine (1992), p. 109.
Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 17:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Physica (Hildegard); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
I'll review this. I don't see any problems with the article; it's well sourced, and I don't see anything that would suggest copyvio or a lack of neutrality. It is new enough and (albeit fairly close to the mark) long enough to qualify. Hook is fairly interesting. No access to the source, so AGF. Generalissima (talk) 04:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Generalissima and Kingoflettuce:, DYK is generally rather pessimistic towards "first" hooks, because they can only be definitively proven on rare occasions; could you find another hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:41, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Matt Stoller believes that breaking up monopolies is “so central and so urgent that nearly any other cause or political relationship should be sacrificed in service of it”? Source: “ For many who knew Stoller or were familiar with his work, his boosting of Hawley was perhaps not surprising. Stoller is known for his dogmatic belief that taking on corporate power by breaking up companies that have gotten too big is the goal — so central and so urgent that nearly any other cause or political relationship should be sacrificed in service of it. His defense of Hawley, who had just a few years earlier become the first state attorney general to sue Google on antitrust grounds, was just the latest example.” Politico
Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Matt Stoller; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Freshly moved to mainspace, solid neutral content, properly sourced without copyvio. Hook is cited. The hook is OK, a little dry but on the problem of monopolies is discussed a lot, so that view may intrigue people enough to go read the article. I do not see strong material for another hook, but if anyone else can propose a catchier Alt, go for it! SeoR (talk) 21:26, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for your review! Later today I am going to add a bit more to the article that I’ll use to make a more interesting hook. Thriley (talk) 21:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by HouseOfChange (talk). Self-nominated at 02:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fanny Steers; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Nice little article, newly written with decent sourcing. Worthy topic, good hook. Good to go! Josh Milburn (talk) 10:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think better hooks can be found HouseOfChange; perhaps something about how at one exhibition her work was poorly positioned but still received high praise, or on how she was baptised and buried at the same church? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 20:11, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
AirshipJungleman29, thanks for your help! I want a hook that people will click on to read more about such a successful painter. Not sure how to fit the position idea, though it's a good one, into few enough words though. HouseOfChange (talk) 04:47, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that a replica of the 1866 barque Thoon Kramom(pictured) was built for the shopping mall that now occupies its captain's company's old docks? Source: "the tall ship Sirimahannop, which is a replica of the ship Thoon Kramom that HN Andersen, the founder of East Asiatic Company, in 1883 sailed to Europe to open the teak trade between Thailand and Denmark"[21]; "Sirimahannop pays homage to its locality: Asiatique The Riverfront... which occupies a former dock of the Europe-Asia trade route ran by the East Asiatic Company."[22]
ALT1: ... that the 1866 barque Thoon Kramom(pictured) now has a replica serving as a floating restaurant? Source: Same as the above.
ALT2: ... that a shipload of Siamese teak carried by the Thoon Kramom(pictured) sold in Liverpool for a near 100 percent profit? Source: "In the autumn of 1883 Captain H.N. Andersen sailed a full cargo of teak to Europe on the Thoon Kramom... He succeeded in disposing of the teakwood in Liverpool at a near one hundred percent profit,"[23]
Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thoon Kramom (1866 ship); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Nominated within 7 days of article creation, long enough, no copyvio issues, article sufficiently cited (AGF on Thai sources), image is PD, and QPQ done. ALT0 is a bit wordy and confusing, and ALT2 isn't that interesting. Thus, I prefer ALT1. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:37, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Charlie Deakin Davies; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Only ALT0 approved; the rest are not interesting to an uninformed reader. Otherwise, nice article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 14:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Angelle (singer); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: ALT2 is not interesting, so I have struck it; my preference is for ALT1, both for interest and BLP reasons. I'm not entirely sure that the article should be titled with her stage name, which she seems to have used for around six years at most and not in the past two decades, but that's not under the purview of DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's the name under which she passes WP:MUSICBIO#C2, and the name under which she has most of her coverage. Might put in an RM after this has run to be sure.--Launchballer 01:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Equally happy with any of the three hooks, even though they focus on different aspects
Created by DirtyHarry991 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Spring Lake (King County, Washington); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: ALT2 only approved; the others are not that interesting. Short article, but acceptable at 1.8kb. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:20, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Georgeykiwi (talk) and Launchballer (talk). Nominated by Launchballer (talk) at 11:04, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/James Marriott (musician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Article is new and long enough. Passes earwig, no close paraphrasing was found, and the hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. I do prefer the main hook, over the alt. Very minor comment, matter of preference I guess over use of youngster, I suggest maybe as a child or as a student, since this appears to be a school production. Pseud 14 (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This reads well IMO, so approving. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Pseud 14: The Oliver! and Bugsy Malone bits were taken out of the article as trivia. Is ALT1 acceptable, or should I propose an ALT?--Launchballer 03:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I cannot find the information about Oliver and Bugsy in our article. Lightburst (talk) 03:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are we seriously discussing putting someone's role in school play on the main page? Last I checked "interesting" was still a criterion for DYK. The original version of this article written by Georgeykiwi was much better than the current one: Launchballer's recent rewrite inflated it with absurds amount of trivial biographic details. I don't know that it's stable enough for DYK at this point. – Joe (talk) 09:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that the dish gogi-guksu, from South Korea's Jeju Island, developed in part because of the Japanese colonial period? Source: [24]. "These noodles come from Japan," he said. "Traditionally on Jeju we didn’t have noodles." He continued that the noodles were introduced during the Japanese occupation and were considered a delicacy only available to the affluent. Jeju did not have noodles before the colonized period because their preparation was very time-consuming. I have some sources in Korean too.
Comment: Hook is a little wordy so appreciate any feedback
5x expanded by Toobigtokale (talk). Self-nominated at 01:46, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gogi-guksu; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: I don't think the hook is that wordy. The hook is the most interesting part of the article, which is always a good thing. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Family 1, a closely related group of Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, place the story of the woman caught in adultery not in its usual place in the Gospel of John, but at the end of the book as a separate story? Source: Comfort, Philip Wesley (2017). A Commentary on Textual Additions to the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI: Kregal Publications, pp. 83-84
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Stephen Walch (talk). Self-nominated at 16:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Family 1; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
ALT1 ... that Family 1, a closely related group of GreekNew Testament manuscripts, place the story of the woman caught in adultery at the end of the Gospel of John as a separate story? Source: Comfort, Philip Wesley (2017). A Commentary on Textual Additions to the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI: Kregal Publications, pp. 83-84
New enough GA. Nominator confirmed QPQ-exempt. AGF on the book source; hook fact is reasonably interesting. Two portions need inline citations if the citations mid-sentence do not support them, Stephen Walch, and this must be fixed/confirmed first: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:12, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
also confirmed 138, 357, 994, 2517 and 2575 as core members of ƒ1 in John's Gospel.
and then Parker rehearses Josef Schmid's views who considered 2886 and 205 to be daughters of 209's lost sister.
... that Charles Knight's wartime painting activities led to him being mistaken for a German spy? Source: Judy Middleton (2002), The Encyclopaedia of Hove and Portslade, vol. 8, p. 53. Taken from the biography of Knight on pp. 52–53. Scan of pages available on request to Hassocks5489.
Comment: A new article created at AfC by a new editor and recently accepted thanks to some good collaborative work, with particular thanks to User:Spinster300.
Hook fact is interesting, and stated in the article. WP:AGF on the offline citation.
Earwig is unlikely, but running a little high at 30%. Some of this is a little hard to rephrase however, for example one should not change text such as the Royal Society of Painters.
I have removed the picture gallery - all the images are proposed for deletion d/t copyvio. Article is otherwise presentable and cited throughout. Easily meets GNG - Art UK alone has 10 artworks.
QPQ done.
All in all good to go and great first article Matthewfoliverathotmaildotcom. ResonantDistortion 17:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Matthewfoliverathotmaildotcom could you quote briefly from the 2 cited pages where it verifies the hook? Rjjiii (talk) 23:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Full quote including preceding context: "At the outbreak of war, Knight very much wanted to enlist in the RAF but his colleagues insisted that he should stay at college, and so he served part-time in the Home Guard and Civil Defence. In the event, his staying put enabled him to embark in 1940 on the 'Recording Britain' project on behalf of the Pilgrim Trust. He executed 40 magnificent watercolours for them, some of which were painted locally. The idea was to record buildings and landscapes which might be devastated by war. However, people were apt to misinterpret his interest, and once he was mistaken for a German spy." @ResonantDistortion and Rjjiii:Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Feel free to modify any hook as you see fit
Created by DirtyHarry991 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bow Lake (SeaTac, Washington); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article is new enough, long enough, and within policy. Hook facts all check out and are of an appropriate length. I leave it to the promoter to decide which hook they prefer. Good work!4meter4 (talk) 17:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that after dodging censorship for years, The Korea Daily News was finally bought out and turned into a publication of the Japanese colonial government in Korea? Source: [25]The paper that had once defied the Japanese government's steps to colonize Korea was now nothing more than a propaganda tool for the very government it had opposed.
Created by Toobigtokale (talk). Self-nominated at 03:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Korea Daily News; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Good to go! I've also made some formatting changes and added a photo on commons from the 구 서이면사무소. Prosperosity (talk) 20:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Nicki Minaj(pictured), who receives a shoutout from Ben Shapiro in his song "Facts", congratulated him when it reached number one on the iTunes chart? Source: Daily Dot
Created by Benmite (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 21:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Facts (Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Interesting article on a culture war and music related topic. No copyright violation or close phrasing detected. Hook and hook fact check out. Article is new enough, long enough, is cited throughout, and is within policy. The image is fine to be used as MTV did release this content under a Creative Commons license. This can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 16:59, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29 What part of the criteria at WP:DYKIMG are you referring to? The licensing checks out as it was released under a creative commons license and is not a fair use image. Is there some other issue?4meter4 (talk) 20:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@4meter4 I think they must mean Try to avoid images that divert readers from the bolded article into a side article – for example, taking a hook about a fictional character and picturing the character's also-linked portrayer.Zanahary (talk) 05:31, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moved to mainspace by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 16:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ford Strikers Riot; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Almost a slam-dunk. I would just suggest "that the Fort Strikers Riot (pictured) won the first Pulitzer Prize for Photography in 1942?" –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 20:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vami IV: Thank you for the review. I am ok with the tweak suggestion. I usually leave it to the promotors and prep set gleaners. Bruxton (talk) 20:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Yangzhou's Five-Pavilion Bridge(pictured) was built by salt merchants to welcome the Qianlong Emperor? Source: Chen Shouxiang; et al. (2022), "Architecture of the Qing Dynasty", A General History of Chinese Art, vol. VI, Berlin: Walter de Gruyter, p. 389.
Olivová, Lucie B. (2009), "Building History and the Preservation of Yangzhou", Lifestyle and Entertainment in Yangzhou, NIAS Studies in Asian Topics, No. 44, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, p. 9.
ALT1: ... that Yangzhou's Five-Pavilion Bridge(pictured) has been reckoned China's most artistic and elegant bridge? Source: "Five-Pavilion Bridge", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2023.
ALT2: ... that the Five-Pavilion Bridge's(pictured) pavilions were destroyed by the Taiping Heavenly Army but subsequently rebuilt? Source: Chen Lifang; et al. (1986), The Garden Art of China, Portland: Timber Press, p. 23.
Olivová, Lucie B. (2009), "Building History and the Preservation of Yangzhou", Lifestyle and Entertainment in Yangzhou, NIAS Studies in Asian Topics, No. 44, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, p. 17.
Comment: Kindly do not add any links to the hooks. DYK exists to promote the newly improved articles, and the curious can click through to any others.
Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 17:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Five-Pavilion Bridge; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Looks good to go. I recommend the first hook. See details below.
Article is long enough, new enough at time of nomination, neutrally-written, and precisely sourced throughout. No obvious copyvio detected (using earwig tool).
All hooks are short enough. First hook is verifiable with what appear to be reliable sources. Second hook is sourced to a website in Chinese, which I'm afraid I can't read, but I'm taking assuming good faith (from reading the article, I take it that the comment comes from a notable architect, rather than just from the city's own website). Third hook is verifiable (I can't access Chen Lifang et al, but I see the relevant info in Olivová).
Image is properly licensed, used in article, and looks great in thumbnail.
QPQ done.
All three hooks are interesting. I recommend the first hook: it's clear and a great introductory line for the topic. Next preference is for the third hook. Least preference for the second hook, mainly because it's a statement more likely to be seen as subjective, and in a way it's less informative than the other two hooks that focus on facts. That's my opinion at any rate.
"Four Bridges in Rain and Mist", a famed view from Xu Garden
... that Xu Garden was created by a benevolent public grateful for their local warlord? Source: Zhang Xiaohui (2015), "An Analysis of the Gardens Reflecting Democratic Revolution in the Republic of China" (PDF), International Conference on Arts, Design, and Contemporary Education, Amsterdam: Atlantis Press, p. 419.
ALT1: ... that Xu Garden in Yangzhou, China, is particularly famed for its woodwork and views (drawing pictured)? Source: Knowles, Christopher (1999), Exploring China, New York: Fodor's, p. 197. "Four Bridges in Mist", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2024.
ALT2: ... that Xu Garden is located within Yangzhou's Slender West Lake scenic area? Source: "Xuyuan Garden", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2023.
Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 12:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Xu Garden, Yangzhou; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Nice article and hooks, but I have a strong preference for ALT0. I also don't think running the image is viable unless ALT1 is chosen, to which I have added the normal format. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Sewageboy (talk). Self-nominated at 06:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Logan O'Hoppe; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
More of a comment than a review, but the hook is 199 characters. It's just below the acceptable limit, but given the length it might be a good idea to make it shorter/more concise if possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Regarding the hook, I'd suggest dropping "rival" since we don't claim that in the article; removing that and maybe the Orioles team name should make it concise enough. The hook is interesting (at least to me), and the article reached GA yesterday as of this comment and is well-cited and well-formatted overall. There are still a couple of things needed, from spot-checks of sources (in which I saw no paraphrasing concerns). The reference for the hook fact doesn't say anything about throwing balls back on the field being common practice, so that bit should be cited by something else or removed from the article. Ref 8 doesn't say he was the 677th pick, so we could use an additional cite there. Also, a QPQ review is still needed. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:27, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I shortened the hook and added sources in the article where requested. Sewageboy (talk) 06:29, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My apologies for one thing above: a DYK review isn't required in your case, since it appears this is your first DYK nom. Should have looked at your user talk page earlier. The changes to the hook and the newly added sources look good to me. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: The iNaturalist image is technically not research-grade, but is definitely correct, as the photo was taken by the herpetologist who described the species (i.e. iNaturalist hasn't put the species in their database yet).
Created by Prosperosity (talk). Self-nominated at 21:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Korowai gecko; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article new enough and long enough. Article is fully cited, sources are neutral, and information is presented neutrally. The hook is cited and verified. No policy issues are seen in the hook or the article, no close paraphrasing or copyvios identified. Image is appropriately licensed for main page and thumbnail is identifiable. Looks good to go.--Kevmin§ 18:39, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kevmin: Great to hear, thanks! Would you be able to add a DYK approval tick ((subst:DYKtick)) to your comment? --Prosperosity (talk) 03:07, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Part of the article (but not the hook) does reference an offline reference, a book that I own. If the image quality isn't good enough for DYK standards (this was the maximum quality available from the archive) we can nix it.
5x expanded by TCMemoire (talk). Self-nominated at 12:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mystic, South Dakota; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
On it. Compliments on the good grammar, including that second comma. — LlywelynII 17:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TCMemoire: You can increase the quality of the image at the SD archive by clicking on the image. I already did that and uploaded a theoretically larger image, albeit one with about the same resolution quality. Since there's no source given except the archive, the photograph can't be assumed to have been published. It's probably in the public domain (definitely not worth removing from Wikicommons), but not 100% so on the basis of the information available. Similarly, the website may be wrong to apply it to this particular photo but the default permissions at the archive's page include requirements that wouldn't work with Wikicommons or DYK images. I'm not sure you want to continue with this hook without the picture, but just to be thorough:
[[File:Symbol possible vote.svg|16px]]5x is done and timely; long enough (5k chars.); no copyvio detected; no WP:BLP or similar issues; the QPQ isn't finished yet but is well started and the continued work on it can be assumed in good faith. As far as content: If there's 0 population, I don't know why the lead says "essentially a ghost town" (in what way isn't it?); timber is rather famously renewable; the nearness of the creek probably didn't contribute to the fires, which is what the current phrasing/grammar says; the last bit is unclear: do you really mean the NPS specifically protected 43 acres but won't tell anyone which specific ones they protected? If so, it needs explanation. If not, it needs rephrasing. You might want to replace the hook anyway given the picture issues. If you don't, you need to replace the hook anyway since the source says he left Mystic for Slate Creek on the wagon, not that he visited (i.e. entered and passed) on it. — LlywelynII 18:14, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@LlywelynII: RE: the image: thank you! We do not have to use it but can keep the hook; as stated, I am happy to proceed without it. I didn't immediately identify Mystic as a ghost town because there are a couple of modern houses, although these are likely to be summer cottages, according to Bruce Raisch, who visited and photographed the site; but in case they're not, I hesitate to make the jump all the way to "ghost town". Still, after sitting with it and doing some research on different definitions of a ghost town, I think I'm just going to do it and hope any lingering residents don't come after me with pitchforks.
About the NRHP thing, they listed it with an "address restricted" tag, so the nomination form is undigitized. According to Raisch's book, there are multiple buildings tucked away out of sight of the main road, so my thought is that the NRHP probably don't want to publicize those buildings to discourage trespassing (as they could be on private property). But this is speculation. However, there is apparently a plaque at the trailhead parking lot that shows the locations of some of the old ruins and which ones are listed (but undoubtedly doesn't show every property).
I cleared up the remaining phrasing issues. RE: the hook, how about (as he apparently only started walking when the going got tough... which we could also include because I think it's funny):
In case we use this one, I wanted to clarify whether this was 1. the first electric placer mining dredge or the first gold dredge. The answer is, it was both; but I cannot find a good way of phrasing it for DYK that's not wordy, nor suggests two separate dredges. –TCMemoire 23:28, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nah, Cal is cool.
ALT1 is good to go. @TCMemoire: I turned United States President into US President for terseness and flow. You can undo that if you really like seeing it all written out. You might want to remove the link to Calvin Coolidge from the hook before it's promoted. It's up to you but I only ever link to my articles here since the idea is to promote them. If someone is interested in "which one was he again?" they can just click through to your article and find his link there. Anyway, worth considering. — LlywelynII 02:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you @LlywelynII:. Just realised this is the second DYK I've submitted that has mentioned Coolidge, the other was in 2022. I linked him there, so I think I'll keep the consistency. Thank you for correcting the United States > US abbreviation; I wasn't sure if there was a consensus on which to use. –TCMemoire 21:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Sohom Datta (talk). Self-nominated at 20:18, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hindu Mela; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: I found the fact intriguing. The article is well sourced and well written. Meets all the eligibility requirements. I doubled checked the spelling, and "organisers" is an accepted alternate spelling. I like the article @Sohom Datta:, anything else you want to add? 🌿MtBotany (talk) 21:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Lk95 (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 19:39, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lasso (album); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: The article is only barely above the minimum length, and could easily be made more concise. The sentences "After Norman Fucking Rockwell! (2019), things took a "huge turn" and has been "going down that path aggressively". Musically and privately, her fear turned out to be the circumstance of being "scared into making safe choices" but instead taking "cool-off"s after releases to "reevaluate things"." are extremely confusing. Furthermore, the nominated hook does not meet WP:DYKINT—there is no reason it is intriguing to an uninformed audience who have no idea who Lana Del Rey is. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the review, AirshipJungleman29. Del Rey just announced the album and unfortunately hasn't given detailed interviews about it. I did just clean up the article quite a bit based on what Background information critics have covered in the context of this album's announcement. I guess the hook could be turned into this to make it more interesting:
ALT1 ... that Lana Del Rey, who is known as an alt-pop artist, will release her first official country album, Lasso, this year?
Created by Maximilian775 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Marcos G. McGrath; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Comment: I very much prefer ALT1, for no reason other than I am a big fan of Countdown.
Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:57, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tasha Ghouri; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
The article is new enough and long enough. I didn't detect any close paraphrasing, and the hooks are all cited inline and verified. I note the nominator's preference for ALT1, but given it seems more niche compared to the other hooks (Countdown, which I've never heard of before, may not be recognizable to non-UK or non-European readers), my preference is any of the other hooks. I do note that ALT3 is slightly inaccurate: the article and source say that Camilla was a participant in Ghouri's class, not that Ghouri directly taught her how to dance, so if we go with ALT3, a minor revision may be necessary. The reason why I am not approving this yet, hence the question mark icon, is I wonder if additional hooks could be proposed here regarding Ghouri's deafness and her recoding videos with her "deaf" voice getting praise. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:54, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I was just about to propose "that Queen Camilla once took part in a dance class by Tasha Ghouri", before actually googling "tasha ghouri camilla", and it turns out she simply observed it as opposed to taking part, and given that watching Strictly is probably enough of a clue I'm minded to look elsewhere for hooks.
ALT4: ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri went viral in early 2024 after uploading a Get Ready With Me video to TikTok using her "deaf accent"? (Source says 'recently', actual video was January 2024.)--Launchballer 06:12, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Since Get Ready With Me doesn't have an article and other readers may not be familiar with it without looking it up (I had never heard of the trend before, but that could just me not being into TikTok), maybe an ALT4a with that mention removed could also work? It doesn't seem essential to the fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:40, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Get Ready With Me is clearly notable, so I could write an article about it. ALT4a: ... that the Love Island 8 contestant Tasha Ghouri went viral in early 2024 after uploading a video to TikTok using her "deaf accent"?--Launchballer 22:57, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, let's go with ALT4a then to be on the safe side. As much as the nominator has expressed a preference for ALT1, I am not approving it for the reasons I discussed above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Worldsgreatestmum (talk). Self-nominated at 03:17, 1 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Samoa House; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article is great, nice work! Fact-checked, no copyvio, nominator's first, so no QPQ required. I prefer without "in Auckland". Interesting, new enough, long enough, neutral (I made a few prosaic edits), images are free. Zanahary (talk) 06:34, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that So Sethaputra compiled his authoritative English–Thai dictionary while in prison, the manuscripts being smuggled out for publication? Source: "he was compiling the dictionary while serving a jail term as a political prisoner... Then there was the risky operation of smuggling the manuscript out to a publisher"[26]; "For much of the twentieth century the most authoritative English–Thai dictionary was the New Model English–Thai Dictionary, secretly compiled in Bangkok’s Bang Khwang prison in the 1930s by So Sethaputra"[27]
Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/So Sethaputra; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Superbly interesting article. Would personally rephrase to ALT0a: ... that while in prison, So Sethaputra compiled his authoritative English–Thai dictionary and smuggled the manuscripts out for publication? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:45, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. I'm not quite sure if saying that he smuggled the manuscripts in active voice could be interpreted the wrong way, as it was his and his fellow prisoners' mothers that actually took the manuscripts out of prison. If the promoter doesn't see a problem then I'm good with it. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:20, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: specific details are provided in: Birtles, Geoff (December 1982). "Mr Z Meets the Mafia - The story of the making of a film in the Alps, based on conversations with the climbers and interviews with Fred Zinnemann". High #6, p16-19. Sheffield, UK: Dark Peak Ltd.
The basic fact that Nunn was a climbing double for Connery is in this Google Books extract [1]
Created by Babybrew6 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:13, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Paul Nunn; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Nice article. It was nominated within seven days of being accepted into mainspace. I don't have access to some of the journals cited within the article but have been able to verify the hook fact. QPQ not required. G2G--NØ 19:17, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: A few extra citations added in various places, not sure that I can see any other points which might need any but happy to edit further if specific items are flagged up.
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Brandon Coleman (offensive lineman); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Article was new when DYK was submitted and is long enough. Source checks out, no plagiarism detected with Earwig. Hook is good, but convert should be added for MPH. grungaloo (talk) 17:13, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
5x expanded by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 17:21, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/R. Champakalakshmi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
... New enough, long enough, QPQ provided. Copyvio around 24% due to titles so okay. Article reads well and I AGF on all her studies mentioned. Well referenced. Hook is clear in the article and in the following citation to a reference containing the hook fact. I read The Discovery of India many years ago and have it in front of me, though never knew about the TV series. Thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:55, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
5x expanded by Reidgreg (talk). Self-nominated at 19:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Canada Centre Building; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Expanded 5 times around 4 edits ago according to the revision history, hook interesting and cited in first paragraph, QPQ is also done, and lastly earwig turns out fine. Good to go Nyanardsan (talk) 07:45, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: More hooks to be added soon, but I think a humorous one would work well if it's allowed.
Moved to mainspace by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 21:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/2026 FIFA World Cup final; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: The article is new enough (moved from draftspace on February 4) and long enough (2,440 characters of readable prose) with no copyright issues picked up by Earwig. QPQ was done and the hook is interesting and verified by the given ref. @SounderBruce: I like the joke hook, but definitely add more hook options before I approve this, just in case it isn't allowed. -- ZooBlazer 04:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I like ALT0 best, but if it's not allowed I'll leave it up to the closing admin to decide which one to use. -- ZooBlazer 09:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that a massive smallpox epidemic struck the Pacific Northwest shortly before historical records were kept? Source: Boyd, Robert (1999). The Coming of the Spirit of Pestilence: Introduced Infectious Diseases and Population Decline among Northwest Coast Indians, 1774-1874, pp. 21-22
Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Self-nominated at 19:41, 4 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1770s Pacific Northwest smallpox epidemic; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Good work on this article! I'll assume that the offline source has the information in the hook. :) ~ TailsWx (🐾, me!) 03:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that despite the novel Potiki being about the impact of land development on an indigenous community, author Patricia Grace did not mean for it to be seen as political? Source: [28] "The book was described as political. I suppose it was but I didn’t realise it. The land issues and language issues were what Māori people lived with every day and still do. It was just everyday life to us, and the ordinary lives of ordinary people was what I wanted to write about, so I didn’t expect the angry reaction from some quarters."
Comment: The QPQ linked was a multi-article DYK; the specific article I reviewed for it was Grant McCallum. Alas, I've already used the fact about there being no glossary of Māori words in a DYK for Grace's article, otherwise that would be a great hook.
Improved to Good Article status by Chocmilk03 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Potiki; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article is totally presentable. New enough: promoted to GA earlier on the day of the nomination. Long enough: >7000 chars of prose. Neutral, no BLP issues, and no copyright violation, although Earwig gives a false positive based on the quotes. The "Plot Summary" section needs citations on the two latter paragraphs, but that's probably the same source as the first paragraph.
The given hook represents the source well and is interesting, but it's a bit clunky. I would tighten it up like this:
ALT1... that Patricia Grace did not mean for her novel Potiki, about the impact of land development on an indigenous community, to be seen as political?
There's those two nitpicks to address, but aside from that it looks good. Apocheir (talk) 18:54, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Apocheir: Thanks very much for the review! I'm happy with your suggested tweak to the hook, that's much better. I hadn't added citations to the plot summary section in reliance on MOS:PLOTSOURCE; the work itself is the primary source. I did think that a secondary source was needed for the statements in the first paragraph about the meaning of potiki and who it refers to, so that's why those statements are cited. Is that OK? Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 04:11, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Dave Jamerson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
There's a "citation needed" tag in the article that needs addressing. Gatoclass (talk) 11:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Cn tag has been resolved. Z1720 (talk) 18:47, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Lovro Šitović, a 17th-century Croatian Franciscan friar who wrote a Latin grammar, was a convert from Islam? Source: Pavičić, Vlado (2008). "Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović ili Šitović?" [Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović or Šitović?]. Radovi Zavoda za povijesne znanosti HAZU u Zadru (in Croatian) (52): 193–211. Retrieved 6 February 2024.; Andrić, Ivo (1990). The Development of Spiritual Life in Bosnia Under the Influence of Turkish Rule. Durham, North Carolina: Duke University Press. ISBN9780822382553.
ALT1: ... that Lovro Šitović, a 17th-century Franciscan friar, wrote a Latin grammar in Croatian, which was used more than a century after its first publication? Source: Pavičić, Vlado (2008). "Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović ili Šitović?" [Fra Laurentius de Gliubuschi: Aleksandar(ović), Sitović or Šitović?]. Radovi Zavoda za povijesne znanosti HAZU u Zadru (in Croatian) (52): 193–211. Retrieved 6 February 2024.; Boban, Luciana; Grubeša, Josip; Jurčić, Jelena (2022). Polivalentnost latinskog jezika u Bosni i Hercegovini: Specifičnosti latiniteta u Hercegovini [Polyvalence of the Latin language in Bosnia and Herzegovina: Specificities of Latinity in Herzegovina] (in Croatian). Mostar: University of Mostar. ISBN9789958162183.
Reviewed:
Created by Governor Sheng (talk). Self-nominated at 21:47, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lovro Šitović; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: None required.
Overall: User appears to have three DYK credits, so they do not have to have a QPQ. Corrected some grammar in the hook. An Earwig percentage of 16.8% is largely derived from the fragment "Croatian as a metalanguage of the grammatical narrative" which appears in both a source and the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:19, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lottie Williams, actress born 1866; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Damian Vo (talk). Self-nominated at 09:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/GBI (German Bold Italic); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
The article has passed a GAN recently and the hook fact is verified from the sources cited.--NØ 18:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: QPQ was originally done for a different nomination, but it wasn't used for that one, so I'm using it here.
Created by Grnrchst (talk). Self-nominated at 10:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tchinda Andrade; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Moved to mainspace by Nableezy (talk) and Levivich (talk). Nominated by Nableezy (talk) at 16:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chicago Community Bond Fund; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Earwig percentage of 35% seems to be due to the quotes in the "Activities" section. Nice article otherwise. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:44, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by FatCat96 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Joseph Bosworth (Kentucky politician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
@FatCat96: Hook is interesting and checks out from the source, which seems reliable enough. Article is long enough, created within the window and has no apparent copyvio, BLP or other issues. Everything is cited: there is in fact some WP:OVERCITE going on, particularly with lead citations and the third paragraph of "political career": I would suggest bundling or pruning these citation lists before the article hits the main page. QPQ not done; the tool I normally use to check DYK credits is down, but can I ask on good faith whether you've had five or more DYKs yet? UndercoverClassicistT·C 12:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@UndercoverClassicist: I believe I have addressed your concerns. Please notify me if there is anything else that needs addressed. This is my first DYK, but it won't be my last! 🐱FatCat96🐱Chat with Cat 17:45, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Approved: all checks out here. The MoS (MOS:LEADCITE) would advise removing the citation in the lead and making sure the same information appears and is cited in the body, but that's not a hurdle for DYK. Nice work and congratulations on your first! UndercoverClassicistT·C 19:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that the King Tornado football team once won by a score of 206–0 – without even playing the full game? Source: Bristol Herald Courier (game was only 48 minutes against the regular 60)
** ALT1: ... that King Tornado football team once won a game by a score of 206–0? Source: same** ALT2: ... that a sportswriter became "so bored" by the King Tornado football team's "beatdown" of their opponent that he stopped recording statistics? Source: same
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/King Tornado football; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Well it's new enough, long enough, I don't see any copyvios. The sourcing is a bit meager but I think it suffices for the purpose. User:BeanieFan11, I do wonder about the "affiliation"--you list them as "Independent", but that first stint was with that Bristol association. Can you clarify? As for the hook--I'll take the regular one, but that entire thing is just one hook after another. EVERY PLAYER ON THE TEAM SCORED A TD? Surely that's a record. Anyway, clear up the affiliation, do a review, and off to the front page you go. Drmies (talk) 23:37, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Drmies: Thanks for the review. I added a QPQ. As for the affiliation, the Bristol association wasn't the league that they were part of, it just seems to have been a local athletic club that supported / sponsored the team. On reflection, I don't think it is important enough to mention a one-year sponsorship so I removed the mention of it. Thanks, BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Article was begun in draft space. It did not move into main space until 06:30, 7 February 2024.
Created by 4meter4 (talk) and FloridaArmy (talk). Nominated by 4meter4 (talk) at 17:20, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Red Moon (Johnson and Cole); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article created 7 February. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 04:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moved to mainspace by TommiF677 (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 07:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Selfish (Britney Spears song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
I'm going with ALT2 as it focuses most on this specific track for its intriguing point, also it doesn't have any WP:EASTEREGG issues unlike ALT1 with the piping of "her ex-boyfriend's". No need to discuss how Britney fans planned this out of spite towards Justin. All three hooks are backed by the same link used here (which is quite credible), no copyright issues found, article is more than long enough plus was nominated less than 24 hours after being moved from draft to mainspace, and QPQ has been provided. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: This is my second DYK nomination, so please let me know if I did something wrong! (Also, I do not believe I am required to do a QPQ.)
Improved to Good Article status by HouseBlaster (talk). Self-nominated at 00:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1934 German referendum; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
No QPQ required. Article is eligible. No copyvio, well sourced. Long enough. Hook is sourced and interesting, but I do find the wording "was doubled from the one a year prior" a bit awkward. Srnec (talk)
The hook fact appears to be absent from main body text. Gatoclass (talk) 03:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The article says Overall support for the government was lower than in the referendum of 12 November 1933, when the government had received support from 95.1% of the total electorate. It has the 1934 results. You can clearly see that opposition must have doubled, since it could not have been more than 4.9% in 1933. Srnec (talk) 03:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have added two alts with (hopefully) less awkward phrasing, and have explicitly added the information to the text. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 04:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, firstly, the hook fact must be in the article, not merely inferred. Readers should not be expected to do the math themselves. Apart from which - how would I know from those figures that "opposition ... doubled"? There might have been fewer overall voters the first time, or a much larger number of informal votes.
In any case, comparing the two referenda looks like an apples to oranges thing to me, as they were on very different subjects. So it seems a little misleading, if not WP:SYNTHish, to characterize the result as "opposition to Hitler" specifically. Gatoclass (talk) 04:24, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm good with HouseBlaster's additions and, on reflection, the source supports the hook, so let's not waste any more time on this one. Gatoclass (talk) 04:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For clarity, my preference would be for ALT2—does that work for you? HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 03:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: The construction "daughter of the family" is used to shorten the hook. It is not unheard of
Created by HistoryCanadiana (talk). Nominated by Mach61 (talk) at 16:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Judi Singh; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Basic article that meets the criteria. Nice to see a thoughtful and thorough QPQ provided by a nominator for once! Gatoclass (talk) 02:50, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm commenting because of the discussion at WT:DYK.
The original hook is not accurate because her father was not an "Indian family" – he was a lone settler.
The phrase "one of the first" is problematic because it's fuzzy or self-contradictory.
The form of words used by this source is "daughter of the first Sikh Albertan and a pioneer Black settler" which seems to avoid the above issues.
In reviewing the article and hook, it seems I did miss a few nuances, not only the two you pointed out, but also the fact that the sources refer to Singh as the first Sikh to settle in Alberta rather than the first Indian. So that probably needs fixing in the article. Mach61? Also, a revised hook will be required, might I suggest:
*ALT1: ... that jazz singer Judi Singh's mother and father were respectively among the earliest Black and Sikh settlers of Alberta, Canada? Gatoclass (talk) 08:51, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Not against alt1, but I'll try expanding the article with the sources I added on talk and finding a new hook with that. Mach61 (talk) 15:41, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 18:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Songs from Suicide Bridge; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Article is new and long enough. QPQ done. Earwig detects "possible violation", but this is only because of material properly quoted within article. ALT0 is good to go. ALT1 needs a little work. Instead of piping in "Pasadena's...", it would be better for clarity if the syntax was modified to note that the suicide spot is in the city. Also, "notorious" needs to be cut per MOS:PEACOCK and MOS:LABEL. However, if the description were attributed to a source, then it could be used. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:54, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Since ALT0 is ready to go, I'm approving that one. Good work on this interesting article! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:30, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Pelekalikimaka (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 16:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Only God Was Above Us; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
New article of more than 1500 characters. The Reddit source needs to be replaced or the info removed. Stereogum looks like a borderline case; it would be preferable to replace it with something stronger, but it's not something I'll reject the nomination over. Other sources look good, including the hook citations, and I don't see any copyright issues. The hook is interesting and below 200 words. The album cover has a fair-use rationale. QPQ is done. Fix the Reddit issue and I'll approve. Ffranc (talk) 14:05, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, removed. Stereogum is fine.--NØ 14:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nice. At another glance, the info about single releases and about Rechtshaid being a returning longtime collaborator also need sources. Ffranc (talk) 14:19, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks again.--NØ 14:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The source about Rechtshaid is about a previous album. Looking at it now, it seems like Rechtshaid produced VW's latest three albums, so it's a bit misleading to call it a return, which indicates they had stopped collaborating. It's probably best to remove that wording and just say he produced the album, like it says in the article body. The Rolling Stone article mentions the singles but was published before they were released. It would be best to replace it with a source published after they actually came out. A quick search gives several good sources that can be used, for example NME. Ffranc (talk) 14:42, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The source about Rechtshaid is about their 2013 album and verifies that he and the band have been longtime collaborators (10+ years now). I've now scrapped the "return" wording. I think the Rolling Stone source verifies the bit about the singles, but by all means feel free to replace it with something you would like better.--NØ 15:01, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright, I added the NME source, which also explicitly uses the words "longtime collaborator", to get that out of the way. Sorry for the inconvenience, approving now. Ffranc (talk) 15:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/All's Well That Ends Well; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Comment the page was wrongly created at "/All's Well That Ends Well" without the "(iZombie)" I have since corrected this so it should be all good. Questions?fourOlifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm going to approve this with the caveat that I've done some copyediting and a small amount of cleanup during the course of my review. ALT0 is probably my favorite. It almost feels like clickbait. I imagine many readers will associate the name Rob Thomas with a certain vocalist – I know I did – and ALT0 places that name front and center. Beyond that, I find the hook genuinely interesting for reasons which are summed up by its source: Turns out that the zombie apocalypse actually ends happily ever after. Who would have thought? Earwig turns up clear, the article is long enough, and a check of the sources has verified the information for which they are cited. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 02:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Bogger (talk). Self-nominated at 15:23, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Majella O'Donnell; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is referenced with sources inline, but the last sentence of the first paragraph under "Personal life", which is marcked with a cn-tag. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports very few text similarity, commenting "violation unlikely". The hook is well-formed and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate with inline sources. QPQ was done. I will approve after the cn-issue is addressed. CeeGee 09:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
5x expanded by Governor Sheng (talk). Self-nominated at 06:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ivan Ančić; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article 5x expanded on 7 February, 3 days before nomination. The article is long enough, is well written, and is presentable. I am unable to verify sources due to their language, but the referencing is consistent and thorough and I will take the hook's fact on good faith. The hook fact is present in the article, is relevant, and is interesting. I definitely prefer ALT0 to ALT1. Thanks for a really intriguing article! Fritzmann (message me) 14:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Fritzmann! I can help; I speak Croatian. First source for ALT0 unambiguously confirms the hook (p.109) and the second states that he is "among the first" (p.51). Hope this helps! ThaesOfereode (talk) 17:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! Hook is definitely good to promote then. Forgot to mention in the review, but the image is properly licensed; it is a little tough to see at 100px, but if an imaged hook is needed I think this one would be sufficient. Fritzmann (message me) 17:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Pakoire (talk) and Marshelec (talk). Nominated by Pakoire (talk) at 00:46, 11 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mussel Inn; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Suggest slight re-wording: ".... that the proprietor of the music venue Mussel Inn in Onekaka built tables strong enough for up to eight people to dance on?" MurielMary (talk) 01:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Pakoire: What an interesting hook. It matches the source and article. QPQ is done. Earwig's is clean. Looking through the article, I see a few statements which appear a bit like advertising and should be addressed:
Over time, the business has worked to build a strong community. I understand that this is about Friday nights but I'm a bit confused about how this is useful for an encyclopaedia.
It is a very popular venue for bands to appear, often with a year long waiting list for a spot. While they do have a long waitlist, I'm not sure about the "is a very popular venue for bands".
The Mussel Inn beers are award-winning. what awards?
Hi @Panamitsu: - thanks for your good feedback - I have made some edits which I think are improvements. If you are in agreement then I think hook ALT0a is the best one? Pakoire (talk) 06:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for your changes, Pakoire. Yes the article looks better now, and yes ALT0a does appear to be better. I'll approve. —Panamitsu(talk) 09:24, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Zmbro (talk). Nominated by MaranoFan (talk) at 16:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Born to Run; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
... that Alan Wace recruited Walter Abel Heurtley, a former military prison governor, to help manage the students of the British School at Athens? Source: Hood, Rachel (1998). Faces of Archaeology in Greece: Caricatures by Piet de Jong. Oxford: Leopard's Head. p. 147. ISBN0904920380.
ALT2: ... that the devout Catholic Walter Abel Heurtley vetoed the use of the word "Madonna" to describe a figurine of a monkey? Source: Hood, Rachel (1998). Faces of Archaeology in Greece: Caricatures by Piet de Jong. Oxford: Leopard's Head. pp. 148–149. ISBN0904920380.
Moved to mainspace by UndercoverClassicist (talk). Self-nominated at 18:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Walter Abel Heurtley; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Nice article. I think I prefer ALTs 0 and 2 ahead of ALT1, which should only be used if the promoter is feeling particularly intellectual. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Oregon state senator William Kuykendall was a physician who founded the first hospital in Eugene, Oregon? Source: The Kuykendall Collection in the Oregon Historical Society Research Library says in the second paragraph of the Biographical Note section: "William K. Kuykendall, a physician … was elected to the Oregon State Senate where he served for nine years … he founded the first hospital in Eugene …"
Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 08:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/William Kuykendall; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
The article is looking nice; it's newly created and long enough. No issues in prose and Earwig gives no copyvio. Hook is interesting and cited, and the source confirms the fact. QPQ done. Styyx (talk) 19:38, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT1: ... that the February 1983 North American blizzard was nicknamed the "Megalopolitan Blizzard" because it hit numerous metropolitan areas along the East Coast of the United States with heavy snowfall? Source: WGAL
Created by Tails Wx (talk). Self-nominated at 02:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/February 1983 North American blizzard; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Approved. New enough, long enough, generally in good condition. Cited throughout. I think ALT2 is by far the most interesting of the hooks, and its sources check out (allowing for the fact that it's an inherently hyperbolic claim, but I think that's fine). Happy to look at sources for the others if you wish. All images are PD and no copyright, NPOV, BLP or other concerns are evident. QPQ is done. Nice work. UndercoverClassicistT·C 18:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that archbishop Lando of Messina abandoned his archdiocese in 1238 and spent the rest of his life in his hometown of Anagni? Source: Norbert Kamp, Kirche und Monarchie im staufischen Königreich Sizilien: I. Prosopographische Grundlegung: Bistümer und Bischöfe des Konigreichs 1194–1266: 2. Apulien und Kalabrien (Wilhelm Fink, 1975), p. 930.
Reviewed:
Created by Adam Bishop (talk). Self-nominated at 01:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lando (archbishop of Messina); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Added a link in the hook. Seems like I need to AGF on the sourcing and plagiarism/copyvio, as while I can read German there doesn't seem to be any online version of this book. Article is new enough and long enough. Not related to DYK, but I think there are Italian sources that could be used. QPQ not needed. Hook a bit so-so but passable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have scans of the Kamp books, I could send them to you if you'd like! There are a few other sources but they're all primary sources. For Italian sources, Ughelli (mentioned in the Reggio and Messina articles) is very old so I didn't use that. There's an article about him by Berardo Pio in the Dizionario Biografico degli Italiani, which also uses Kamp as a source, and various primary sources. Otherwise I don't think anything substantial has been written about him, especially not in English...aside from me, I've written about his candidacy for the patriarchate of Jerusalem. (But my book isn't published yet, and it would be kind of weird to cite myself, maybe). Adam Bishop (talk) 01:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would argue that such an article would be a GNG fail as written, and were the article to be notability tagged, the tag would be valid and would preclude the article from progressing. (It is admittedly rather silly, because were the single a national biographical dictionary rather than a church biodict, the article would pass NBIO and this objection wouldn't apply – but such is life.) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:16, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I added another source, if that helps! (It's a bit old, but it's in English at least) Adam Bishop (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 10:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Zwycięzcy oceanu; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
... that Bob Moore(pictured), the co-founder of Bob's Red Mill, transitioned his company to employee stock ownership because of his deeply-held belief "to do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? Source: "For years, Mr. Moore turned down prospective buyers, insisting on maintaining ownership of the company. In 2010, on his 81st birthday, he began transferring control to his staff through a new employee stock ownership plan. “The Bible says to do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” he later told Portland Monthly, explaining his belief that sharing profits and ownership would “make things more fair and more benevolent.”" Washington Post
Created by Thriley (talk) and Cerebral726 (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 02:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bob Moore (American food executive); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Some ALTS I thought could be good:
ALT1 ...that Bob Moore didn't found Bob's Red Mill until after his first retirement? Source: [29] He retired when he was about 50, and he and his wife moved to Portland to pursue this course of study at a seminary. Mr. Moore, however, soon grew weary of the painstaking work involved in learning ancient languages.
ALT2 ...that Bob Moore became the founder of whole-grain company Bob's Red Mill decades after his father had a job driving a Wonder Bread truck? Source: [30] his father, too, had a grain-adjacent job of sorts: He drove a Wonder Bread truck.
Overall: Great well-sourced article, created Feb 11th and already 4676 chars. Photo quality is excellent. Suggested hook is acceptable but a bit wordy, hook 2 is IMHO slightly more interesting. Jpatokal (talk) 03:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT3... that the “folksy, almost Santa-like” Bob Moore(pictured), the co-founder of Bob's Red Mill, is depicted on all of the company's products? Thriley (talk) 03:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Fernushki (talk). Self-nominated at 18:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Enass Muzamel; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Created by W9793 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sophie Richardson; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
The hook fact is interesting and verifiable from the source, the nomination is timely, and the article meets the size requirements. I have some minor concerns about the subject's notability but am not familiar enough with them to really comment. Everything looks okay re: DYK.--NØ 17:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Rear Admiral Richard Washbourn bought the bell of HMS Chevron for £8 and donated it to Collingwood School(pictured)? Source: https://brisray.com/dad/chevron-bell.htm In December 1964 Admiral Washbourn purchased HMS Chevron's bell as Lot #54 from the dockyard at Rosyth, Scotland for £8. ... Admiral Washbourn wrote that "Collingwood is a very remote little settlement one hundred miles from the nearest town and it will do the young good to have some reminder of the world outside... even if that reminder only serves the mundane purpose of calling them to their studies." Again to Lt. Cdr. Kemp on 30th September, 1965, "Pity we can't make it [the history of the ship] a bit more glamorous! However she got around a bit, and the pupils of Collingwood will have a bell which will have covered the waters between the Eastern Atlantic and the Persian Gulf."
Reviewed:
Comment: Using 2 QPQ as this is my first nomination. Collingwood Area School expanded 5 x in the last 7 days.
Created by Paora (talk) and Giantflightlessbirds (talk). Nominated by Paora (talk) at 02:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Richard Washbourn; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Paora and Giantflightlessbirds, I've talked to the school as to whether I can take a photo of the bell. Yes, it's currently in storage, they could dig it out, but they don't want any attention drawn to the bell for fear of theft. Bummer. I've nominated the waharoa image instead; hope that suits. Schwede66 09:10, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Overall: @Paora and Giantflightlessbirds: Nice work on these articles. There is just one issue with the nomination, which I've noted above. Epicgenius (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Epicgenius: Most of the text that is being flagged as a possible copyright violation is the verbatim quoting of the citation for Washbourn's DSO in 1940. The citation is taken from the London Gazette, no. 34796, second supplement, page 1058. All content on The Gazette website is published under the Open Government Licence v3.0, so the exact quote of the DSO citation should not be an issue. Paora (talk) 08:28, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Paora: Sounds good. Assuming the London Gazette citation is online, I think all you need to do is to add that citation to the quote, and then add Template:OGL-attribution to the citation. (I think it would be best to link the London Gazette citation directly rather than linking to this secondary website.) Epicgenius (talk) 13:46, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bruxton, yes, it's a blog. However, the information is fully documented with scans of primary sources and backed up with photos, showing the bell in-situ prior to the recent rebuilt of the school. We have the receipt that shows that he paid £8 at auction. We have a letter indicating that he planned to present the bell to the school in October 1965. And we have photos of the bell hanging at the school, showing that it came from the HMS Chevron. That should be good enough to back up the various hook facts, I'd say. Schwede66 03:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Time Still Turns the Pages; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk) and Nathan Obral (talk). Nominated by Sammi Brie (talk) at 06:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/WFOR-TV; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Good job as always! Meets all DYK criteria. Both hooks are interesting — leaving the final choice to the promoter. Skyshiftertalk 02:20, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"Before the trip, Kate had neglected her looks. One of her former teachers and even Susan B. Anthony had chided her about her appearance, and more than one person had told Kate that she smelled like horses, which she loved to ride.”! Now, she realized, after two months in one black cashmere dress, it was time for a change. “Shortly after the trip” Kate recalled, “I began to consider my clothes. Apparently, everybody else had been considering them for some time; but to me dress had seemed of little importance.” Now, she “went in for extremely feminine attire. I had my hair dressed and wore violets in my muff, and had some soft, frivolous gowns made. This attention to dress repaid me well. Some of my customers spoke to me twenty years after about a certain dress or hat that I wore when I made a sale. I learned to value clothes, to love clothes, and to use clothes."
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Improved to Good Article status by Rocfan275 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kate Gleason; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. I believe this is Rocfan275's first nomination, so QPQ is not needed. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 03:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Daniel Case (talk) and David Gerard (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 21:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Calendargate; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
- article is long enough (6506 characters / 972 words readable prose size), new enough (created on 12 February, nominated on 19 February, adequately sourced, and CopyVio does not find problems: the only significant sections were quotations. The hook is cited to Vox, which WP:RSP says is "considered generally reliable". The hook is reasonably interesting. QPQ initial review has been done, minor discussion still going on. As far as I can tell, this one is ready to go. Gronk Oz (talk) 05:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that when Mexia Supermarket was abandoned following its owners' bankruptcy in late 1999, due to miscommunication all of the food was left inside to rot? Source: Steven Strange, a Fort Worth attorney representing New Advance Investment Corp which owned Mexia's, said that his clients filed for bankruptcy Sept 29 and that the property reverted to a bank. He said that he called the bank's attorneys to inform them of the bankruptcy filing and that the store had been shut down and the keys turned over. Normally, Strange said, the bank or trustee would take steps to dispose of the property. But that didn't happen in this case, he said. "I can't really tell you what happened," Strange said. "Apparently the electric company turned the electricity off Oct. 18 and obviously no one had done anything about it then" Strange said he blames miscommunication rather than a particular person for the problem "It's unfortunate it's occurred," he said "I don't know why the electricity was shut off. My clients were horrified about it." - Link: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/649476940/
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Comment: This is my first DYK nomination so go easy on me. Please.
Created by CommissarDoggo (talk). Self-nominated at 20:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mexia Supermarket; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Nice article and hook. Wearing my promoter's hat, I would phrase it as ALT1: ... that when Mexia Supermarket was abandoned because of its owners' bankruptcy, all of the food inside was left to rot for over three months?
This is because the "due to miscommunication" and year are not essential, the supermarket was abandoned before its owners' bankruptcy, and putting a length of time to the rotting helps the readers, who could be thinking it was for a couple of days. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that despite a career writing queer literature, Chen Xue's 2019 novel Fatherless City had a "putatively straight premise"? Source: Rojas, Carlos (2023), Wu, Chia-rong; Fan, Ming-ju (eds.), "Chen Xue, Missing Fathers, and Queer Alternatives", Taiwan Literature in the 21st Century, Singapore: Springer Nature Singapore, vol. 5, pp. 111–123.
Comment: I'm not too sure on the hook - but I struggled to see any others.
Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 12 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Chen Xue (writer); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
: Interesting hook, Earwig doesn't indicate anything untoward, article is good and long enough, I can approve. Lettlerhello • contribs 19:47, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Marshelec (talk). Self-nominated at 19:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Onekaka Power Station; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
REVIEW STARTED. New enough, long enough. Edwardx (talk) 23:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Courtesy ping to Edwardx to continue this review. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Marshelec, I’ve had a read of Bryan Leyland's excellent article. I found it astonishing that the power station is controlled via text messaging! That is not in the article, but if you add it, it would make an excellent hook. I’ve also just been to the power station and have uploaded my photos; you may find something that is more interesting than the historic dam construction image. Schwede66 16:05, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
New enough, long enough. QPQ done. All paragraphs well-cited. No copyvio issues. Both hooks are interesting and check out with the cited sources. We could trim the redundant "historic" from the first hook. With regard to the second hook, although Bryan Leyland worked for one of the companies involved in the rebuild, the text messaging claim seems plausible enough. A more neutral source would be ideal. Edwardx (talk) 12:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As Leyland is one of the 60 most influential hydropower engineers worldwide and has written a textbook on small hydropower station design, I don’t think that you would find a more authoritative source. Schwede66 13:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Liu1126 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Integrated Visual Augmentation System; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Article meets all necessary criteria, ALT1 hook is well worded and appropriately sourced. No issues with image either, appropriately licensed, clear depiction of the item. grungaloo (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The main hook uses a WP:PRIMARY source as a citation, coupled with the wording it makes it sound a bit promotional. ALT1 is also a bit off with WP:NPOV, but I think it could be fixed by rewording it to "some Microsoft engineers". The source indicates that it was a subset who felt this way and not all. QPQ is still outstanding too. Let me know what you think! grungaloo (talk) 18:15, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the review! I've changed ALT1 to use the specific number of opposing employees, which hopefully helps with the NPOV issue. WP:QPQ isn't required for first five noms; this is my first time at DYK, so I wanted to experience the process first before reviewing. Liu1126 (talk) 20:51, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Perfect, ALT1 looks great! And sorry for missing that QPQ, my bad! I'd say this is good to go, thanks! grungaloo (talk) 01:47, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Fūka Izumi became a voice actress despite initially doubting herself into becoming one? Source: [32] ("ずっといいなと思っていて、でも無理だろうって気持ちが強かったんです。だから声優になりたいって確信したっていうのは中学生くらい。")
ALT1: ... that voice actress Fūka Izumi served as the manager of a swimming club in high school despite not being an official member of the club? Source: [33] ("高校生の頃は公認の幽霊部員でした。水泳部のマネージャーだったんですが、人数が多すぎて仕事がなくて…。でも、先生にお願いされてマネージャーなっていたから、公認の幽霊部員。")
ALT2: ... that when she was in high school, voice actress Fūka Izumi was a ghost club member? Source: same source as ALT1
Comment: Special thanks to Tails Wx who helped suggest ALT0 and ALT1 over at the Wikimedia Discord server. ALT2's fact is currently not in the article but can be added if the reviewer likes it. (Update: I have added the wording to the article regardless.) ALT2 is technically misleading since she wasn't a member of a ghost club, but rather "ghost club member" is a translation of "幽霊部員" and seems to be someone who participates in a club but is not a member of it. However, for ALT2 I was going with an admittedly clickbaity angle. The article doesn't have much other material so if none of the hooks work I'm fine with the nomination being failed.
Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fūka Izumi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
... New enough, interesting hook linked to non-English source. Long enough, QPQ provided. No copyvio issues (<3%). Hook in article. I like proposed hooked. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Whispyhistory: Just wondering: are all hooks approved, or only the first one? The suitability of ALTs 1 and 2 were not discussed explicitly in the review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:41, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... yes, approving all 3 hooks as being in the article, interesting and followed by a non-English. Looking back at it, ALT2 is good. Thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:53, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 02:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Elbert E. Martin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
A football player who saves the president? This should be interesting. I'll review. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:57, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Overall: Nice work. Strongly prefer ALT1 as I think it is much more interesting that it was Theodore Roosevelt that he saved. BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: Five-fold expansion from 6 February. So it is slightly over the 7 days "recent" criteria, but I ask for some "wiggle room" here please. Distracted by other articles in an editathon, and the time slipped by.
Created by Marshelec (talk). Self-nominated at 21:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Cobb Power Station; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Fine article, no plagiarism, hooks verified from a good source -- I think the original hook is more interesting. Newly expanded, I for one am willing to make an exception to the tiny "transgression" regarding the date of submission. QPQ done. Dahn (talk) 09:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that after having been named the general manager of the Minnesota Vikings for three years, Fran Foley served in the position just three months? Source: Globe-Gazette
Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Fran Foley; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact's in there and checks out to source. What a trainwreck this guy was. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wait a minute - still need to get qpq done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@BeanieFan11: Oooooops. Let me know when it is—it'll be ready. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Generalissima (talk). Self-nominated at 20:02, 14 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Safe Return (statue); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
What an interesting article. Hook is interesting, QPQ is done, hook verified/matches article. Earwig's is clean. Good to go. —Panamitsu(talk) 22:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Bill Post encouraged schoolchildren to "always do more than is expected" before giving them samples from his unlimited supply of Pop-Tarts? Source: "Mr. Post told his Pop-Tarts story to students into his 80s, his son said. He often talked about being the son of immigrants who could barely speak English, and challenged students to do their best and work hard. He would also bring them samples from his unlimited supply of Pop-Tarts.Every time he went into a classroom, his son recalled, he would tell the students: “‘If you want to be noticed, always do more than is expected.’”" NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk) and HistoryTheorist (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 02:57, 21 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/William Post (businessman); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
... Nice work, new, interesting, reads well. QPQ provided. Copyvio of the article in general is okay except for the hook bit which is very similar to the wording in the source even without the quote. Suggest reword a bit and maybe consider a hook on the lines of the co-inventor of pop tarts, Post showed that the icing does not melt when they are heated, or something like that. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:54, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you... can you make it clear in the hook and in the article that he helped/led the team that invented the pop tart please? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Will do that. Created another hook that Bill Post himself would approve of. I didn't write the section on the invention of the Pop-Tart, but I'll be sure to modify this. I'm sort of getting sucked into this DYK because I need to finish working on Gerald McGinnis so I can nominate it for DYK tomorrow. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 17:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No worries.. let me me know how I can help.. and take your time. fyi.. I have never had a pop tart. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:37, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Lol, me neither . I just read a bit too much of the AP obituaries to let this one pass by. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 18:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Whispyhistory: Do you have any other concerns with the article that need to be addressed? (Just asking out of curiosity) ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 23:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... All looks accurate and good. All hooks are in the article and followed by citations to references containing hook facts. It would be good to have a photo of his lovely smile. Thank you to a great team effort. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would love a picture of him too. However, I couldn't find any free images. Might insert a non-free image, but that means it won't be used for DYK though. Thanks for reviewing this DYK, this is probably one of my favorite articles to work on so far. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 15:12, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Fvasconcellos (talk). Self-nominated at 06:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mildmay Mission Hospital; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article is new enough and long enough. I am afraid that by using a 28 page source as a reference it is hard to verify anything; I can't find about the funding structure, for example, and the article makes it sound like it was a 2021 assessment that called it outstanding while the source seems to say 2017. Where does it say first of its kind in #4? Going to AGF on the book. Where is "preservation of the character and associations of the hospital" in the source? Didn't notice any copyvio or plagiarism. I prefer the first hook. No QPQ needed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you so much for taking the time to review this. I appreciate it can be hard to comb through that report, so I've added page numbers. I've reworded and added a new citation for the funding structure, clarified the 2017/2021 issue, and added/rearranged citations to address the other points. The "preservation..." was indeed missing a proper citation, which I've now added as well, and reworded that passage to make it closer to the source (hopefully not to the point of close paraphrasing). Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:29, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that the abandoned New World Department Store in Bangkok became home to thousands of fish (pictured)? Source: "There are about 3,000 fish, most of them mango fish, striped catfish and catfish, he added. The pond attracted public attention in June last year when photos of it were posted online, drawing more people to visit the abandoned centre to feed them." [34]
The nomination seems to have been made a few hours after the seven-day window closed, but we can let that pass in good faith. The article looks otherwise eligible, with the hook fact sourced and the QPQ completed. Could you add sources for the unsourced part at the end of the History section though?--NØ 09:37, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Update: I've added an image to the nom above and asked MaranoFan for further review. (This was previously promoted to prep, but I've asked for it to be brought back for further consideration.) --Paul_012 (talk) 10:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The image looks alright to me in terms of licensing. You may want to use the cropped version in the article as well, though, as I believe one of the conditions for an image to appear at DYK is that it should be used in the article.--NØ 10:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. According to WP:DYKIMG, a crop of an image already in the article should be okay for DYK. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: The Alt1 hook fact has the advantage of being viewable in google books and not being behind a paywall. The original hook has the advantage of better suiting the use of the image.
5x expanded by 4meter4 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:31, 21 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jean Schwartz; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Interesting substantial bio on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I like the original hook much better. The image is licensed and almost a most, because it shows the period. If not taken we should have some indication of when this plays in the wording, but I hope to see it pictured. I am open to include the Chinatown song as an example in the hook, for a hint at the style. - Minot things for the article: I don't think that "theme song" needs quotation marks. I'd prefer to see him first married a second time, and then die. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:40, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think that we don't need the full names in the caption but I would like to indicate who's who, such as "Jerome and Schwartz (r.)". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok. I made most of the suggested changes. I was unable to locate a source stating when his second marriage occurred, and the only reference I could find to his second wife was in his obituary which only mentions that she survived him. Understandably, his first marriage was discussed more in sources given who she was. Thanks for the review.4meter4 (talk) 21:06, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Panamitsu (talk). Self-nominated at 02:18, 17 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Milkrun; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
I will review this. TompaDompa (talk) 10:01, 17 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
QPQ: - Not done. Overall: Article created on 16 February, and meets the length requirement (though it is rather short and should be expanded). All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. Earwig reveals no copyvio, and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. There are no obvious neutrality issues. The hook does not strictly speaking meet the requirement of being cited in the article no later than the end of the sentence, but this is rather academic as I don't find it interesting either. QPQ has not been done. Some comments on the content:
That month they also started selling Alcohol with the hope that it would improve Milkrun's losses. – three things here. Firstly, "alcohol" should not have a capital A. Secondly, did they start selling alcohol or delivering it? Thirdly, "also"? The body has not yet stated what the business model was prior to this.
In February 2023 Milkrun laid off 20% of its staff due to financial difficulties. – that's not quite what the cited sources say. They say that Milkrun started laying off staff in February and that they would lay off 20% of staff. That doesn't mean that the entirety of those 20% were laid off in February, specifically.
aswell – typo.
In May 2023, two months after closure – that seems like a contradiction seeing as it seems to have closed in mid-April. The cited source also says "less than two months".
Woolworths merged the customer bases of Milkrun and Metro60, Woolworths' competitor, and rebranded Metro60 to Milkrun. – this needs to be rephrased for clarity. If I understand it correctly, Metro60 competed against Milkrun, and was run by Woolworths. The current phrasing, "Woolworths' competitor", can easily be parsed as Metro60 competing against Woolworths.
Service rolled out to other regions in the months after. – the cited source states that, as of July when it was published, this was the plan. Not that it happened after that.
@TompaDompa:, Thanks, I really appreciate your hard work reviewing the article. I believe I've fixed all the issues you've found in the article.
For the hook, I believe that going out of business and then relaunching a few months later is interesting, as usually companies stay closed, but I'm happy to find a new hook. I'm a bit confused about the hook not being in the body. While it doesn't specifically say that it was launched months later, it does say that it closed in May and launched in New Zealand in July. Does that not count? For sourcing, I'm a bit confused because the source does say that it went out of business in April and then launched in New Zealand in July, which is "months later". —Panamitsu(talk) 01:38, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The technicality I'm referring to is one of reference placement—the facts of the hook need to be cited in the article no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear (see WP:DYKHFC). That is to say, if the facts of the hook are presented in two consecutive sentences, and come from the same source, the source needs to be cited at the end of both sentences (not just the second one). Which is a bit silly, granted.Anyway, the necessary changes to the article content have been done, as has QPQ. All that remains is a better hook. TompaDompa (talk) 09:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh I see now; thanks for the explanation. Here is ALT1:
"... that Milkrun originally promised 10 minute grocery deliveries?"
Honestly, I think that's even less interesting. TompaDompa (talk) 15:50, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm quite surprised by that. Normally deliveries take several days. Do you have any suggestions from the article for what could be used instead? —Panamitsu(talk) 09:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not really, no. If you are out of ideas for hooks, you can by all means request a second opinion; the hook is the only thing left, and I won't object if somebody else finds the hook interesting even if I do not. TompaDompa (talk) 14:52, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Reviewing only the hooks, I consider both sufficiently interesting for use on DYK. If I could get my groceries delivered in only 10 minutes, I'd be flabbergasted (I suppose it makes sense that they didn't actually deliver on that promise). I prefer the substance of ALT0 though I would encourage rephrasing it to an ALT2:
... that only months after going out of business, Milkrun relaunched?
That way, the hook doesn't 'spoil the ending' right off the bat. Of course, fixing WP:DYKHFC will be necessary if that's still a problem.
I'm not 100% sure how this goes from here; with the hook being the only thing left, do I add an "approved" icon, or does TompaDompa? P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 05:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you approve the hook, you add the icon (and also check the hook's sourcing). TompaDompa (talk) 10:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Panamitsu: What do you think of the ALT2 rephrasing above (that I suggested)? Additionally, to resolve WP:DYKHFC, please place citations at the end of the sentences that end "citing worsening economic conditions" and "in Wellington and central Auckland" (I recognize that may mean having the same citation appended to the ends of two sentences in a row; although usual Wikipedia rules allow for a single citations to flow backwards across multiple sentences, for precision and on account of the potentially heightened attention to a hook fact, DYK rules require a citation at the end of each sentence supporting a hook). P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 11:37, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or perhaps an ALT3: "... that 18 months after launching Milkrun ran out of business, but a few months later it was running again?" (This would probably require adding the '18 months' fact to the article, which if memory serves appears in one of the sources.) P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 11:48, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Question: Could ALT3 be modified further? "Ran out of business" is strange wording to some of us, maybe it's only standard phrasing in some parts of the world? What about "closed down" or "went out of business"? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:13, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A fair suggestion (alas, no tripling of "run"/"ran"). That brings us to ALT4:
... that 18 months after launching, Milkrun went out of business, but a few months later it was running again?
Yes ALT2 looks very good. Unfortunately I cannot understand WP:DYKHFC. The wording does not make any sense to me. I've added some more citations but I'm not sure if that's fixed it. —Panamitsu(talk) 01:45, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Panamitsu:WP:DYKHFC means (and apologies if my explanation isn't any better) that for a hook to be approved, the facts it contains must be stated in the body text of an article in sentences that have citations verifying those facts no later than the end of those sentences. The way you have edited the page, WP:DYKHFC is now fulfilled, as there are verifying citations at the end of the clauses A few months later, in April, Milkrun closed, citing worsening economic conditions. and By July Milkrun was launched in New Zealand,, verifying that Milkrun relaunched months after it closed (from April to July).
Though not mandatory, if you expand the first sentence to be In April, just 18 months after it initially launched, Milkrun closed, citing worsening economic conditions., I will be able to approve both ALT2 and ALT4 as well. What do you think? P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 01:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh yes thanks it makes sense now! I've used your suggestion, and I think your hooks look good. —Panamitsu(talk) 02:02, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Panamitsu: Thanks for bearing with one additional ask: I forgot that the Barrett article doesn't mention that Milkrun launched ~18 months before it folded. That's in the Shaw article. If you add that source (Shaw, "Countdown launches failed grocery delivery service Milkrun") to the end of the same sentence, I can approve ALT4 along with ALT2. P-Makoto (she/her) (talk) 02:12, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh whoops, sorry I should've checked that. Done now. —Panamitsu(talk) 02:18, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Approval of specifically ALT2 and ALT4. 02:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
... that Singaporean chef and restaurateur Tan Kue Kim was described as one of the country's "best known and most successful hawkers"? Source: Shukor, Abdul (20 March 1993). "He fried his way to millions". The New Paper. p. 5.
Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 17:00, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tan Kue Kim; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
: An interesting article that follows everything, but the hook is not understandable unless the reader knows the specific type of restaurants in Singapore. I would suggest ALT1 ... that Singaporean chef and restaurateur Tan Kue Kim cooked while wearing a S$40,000 gold Rolex watch? IMO this is a better hook. Lettlerhello • contribs 19:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Femke (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Outcome switching; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Starting this review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 02:34, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Overall: Article is new. At ~1600 words it just about meets the eligibility requirements. Earwig could not determine any copyvio concerns because of the nature of the cites (i.e. journals). However, I do not think there are any copyvio concerns based on some spot checks where I could access content. QPQ done. I have some thoughts on the hook and the lede. Will add them separately. Ktin (talk) 04:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hook and interestingness
There is a statement in the article, "Changes in primary outcome metrics are present in nearly one in three studies". I am thinking we could weave that in to create a punchy hook. e.g. "Per a study, one in three studies [clinical trials] engaged in outcome switching?"
Article structure
Can we consider the structuring the article into sections? This might allow us to expand the article. I was thinking of the below structure:
1. Background -- What is outcome switching? When was the term coined? Do we have an instance of the first usage of the term?
2. Prevalence -- studies on how rampant this practice is?
3. Impacts -- negative effects stemming from outcome switching
4. Preventative actions (should think of a better term for this section) -- what are prominent journals / academic bodies doing about this practice?
5. Select examples (should think of a better term for this section) -- any popular studies that have been called out for outcome switching?
Other edits
Consider rephrasing "Changes in primary outcome metrics are present in nearly one in three studies" --> "Per a study by <researchers at x>, changes in primary outcome metrics are present in nearly one in three studies"
Per WP:MEDSAY, a meta-analysis should not have that type of wording. Even for primary sources, that type of wording is overly verbose and discouraged. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 07:20, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Consider a similar rephrasing for the sentence where we say that outcome switching in oncology "is more common in studies with a male first author, and in studies funded by non-profits."
Handing this back to the nominator. Ktin (talk) 04:59, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello User:Ktin. I'm quite new to DYK. While I don't doubt your suggestions will improve the article, I'm wondering if I need to make them before this article can be approved. For GA nominations, it's considered good practice to note possible improvements as optional if they do not relate to the GA criteria. It may be that I'm not understanding the DYK criteria sufficiently, and that subsections are actually expected. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:18, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Femke: I do not call myself a veteran either, but, my understanding is working on feedback like the one that I have provided is up to you. It is only egregious items that prevent the article from being promoted to mainpage (and the hook approved). That said, I have seen folks being particular about "interestingness" however defined that term may be. So, consider revising the hook per my note above. Re: the WP:MEDSAY comment I am super surprised. But, I will admit I am not too familiar with medical projects and articles. Your call on that one. Ktin (talk) 08:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The more general policy is WP:Wikivoice (Avoid stating facts as opinions): it's usually preferable to find high-quality secondary sources that contain facts over more subjective findings, so that you can write text in Wikivoice. So wording like The New York Times reported on day X that Y, is usually unnecessary, as we expect the NYT to have done their due diligence. For opinions or minority viewpoints, in-text attribution is the way to go. I've done a minor expansion of the article, including 2 section. I'll come back on the hook-specific points. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agree. I was thinking of Wikivoice as well. My personal take is that one does not need to say "Per the NYT, ... " for the sun rises in the east kind of statements. However, when stating something like a study, I would still say "Per the NYT, 74% of all spam calls originate from a land-line number in <insert any country / geographical region here>". In the case of this article, both the 1 out of 3 studies being guilty of outcome switching, and outcome switching being more likely when the first author is a male or funded by a non-profit statements sounded like something we should directly attribute to the folks performing the study rather than writing in Wikivoice. Ktin (talk) 09:02, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've changed the oncology study sentence, where I do take your point. The the other sentence is based on a meta-analysis, rather than on a single study. I can take more information out of that meta-analysis, but attributing it would exaggerate the uncertainty imo. I've switched the first sentence back to is per WP:REFER. In terms of the structure, I can't find who first coined the term, and the term is not particularly distinctive, so I can't imagine it was properly "coined". In terms of the hooks, I find it difficult to say something about outcome switching, while also explaining what it is or does. Only detailing the prevalence in the hook would not be that elucidating to readers, so see my . —Femke 🐦 (talk) 10:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Almost there. To mark the hook approved, I am assuming this is the relevant snippet from the journal Among the included studies, the median number of trials assessed for outcome discrepancies was 65 (interquartile range [IQR] 25–110), and the median proportion of studies for which a discrepancy was identified between the registered and published primary outcome was 31 %, though this varied substantially across the included studies (range 0 % [0/66] to 100 % [1/1], IQR 17–45 %; Fig. 2).. Please confirm. Ktin (talk) 17:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. Marking hook approved. Btw, I see you are an admin and have quite a few rights. You should also get the "auto patrolled" right if you so want to. This article is still showing unreviewed. Irrespective, I think we are good here. Ktin (talk) 18:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I can self-assign autopatrolled, and have contemplating doing that now that I've started 10 articles. However, normally, we give out autopatrolled at 25 articles created, most of which are problem-free. I feel I need to figure out what categories are all about before I self-assign, as I've never had much interest in that aspect of article writing. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 18:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As a process note, I have now reviewed the entry for NPP and was about to leave a message with the same idea about autopatrol, but I defer to you Femke! Innisfree987 (talk) 21:46, 18 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Strange Orange (talk). Self-nominated at 05:03, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Beck–Fahrner syndrome; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: I always love seeing rare diseases make it to GA/DYK. Checked both accounts, no QPQ necessary yet (This appears to be their first DYK). Page was recently promoted to GA on Feb 18th with no issues in the review outwithstanding. The source The Canberra Times checks out both for reliability and verifiability. Spot checks for copy-vios finds nothing, Earwig seems to be down for me at the moment. Hook is interesting and well written, I think 'approximately only' is a bit clunky but I'll leave this as an optional change since it doesn't detract much from the snappiness of the hook. Passing DYK. 🏵️Etrius ( Us) 20:42, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Weise's law was first proposed as a solution to an imbalance between Ancient Greek and Sanskrit cognates? Source: "If we examine the Indian [Sanskrit] words beginning with guttural + r or l and compare them with their Greek reflexes, we will notice that all those which have retained the guttural in Indian intact show guttural + ρ, whereas Greek guttural + λ only occurs regularly when the palatal sibilants [ś], j, h appear in Indian. The absence of exceptions in this rule automatically prohibits the assumption that coincidence prevailed here. Of course, this excludes cases where r (or l) is not immediately after the guttural, but there is a vowel in between, although the rule stated above often applies here too." Source, in German, center of page beginning with "Wenn wir nämlich die..."
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Comment: This is my first DYK nomination; please let me know if there is anything amiss.
Created by ThaesOfereode (talk). Self-nominated at 03:16, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Weise's law; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
For a first nomination, this is remarkable well polished! The article is new enough, certainly long enough, is well-written and presentable, and has a breadth of reliable sources used throughout. No QPQ required. The hook is a bit properly cited and is in the article, but it is a bit dense and vague. I'm not a linguist, and knowing what an imbalance between cognates means is beyond me, even after reading the article. Please let me know if this is not correct, but would the following Alternate hook be accurate:
Thank you for a great article; please drop me a ping when you respond to the small hook concern! Fritzmann (message me) 12:58, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the kind words; I'm glad my hard work has paid off! Regarding your concern, I agree that the term "imbalance" is problematic for the hook. I like your rewrite, but instead of the final word "languages", I think it would be more accurate to use either "cognates" (ideal) or "etymologies". If you believe those are still to technical, I could suggest either linking "cognates", like either:
Let me know what you think. I think ALT3 is the strongest, but at the end of the day, all of these express the same ultimate idea; I think any of these proposed options would work just fine. Ping: User:Fritzmann2002 // ThaesOfereode (talk) 15:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
My personal preference is for ALT4, but I fully agree that any of them are runnable. I will leave it to the promoter to take their choice of three very good options. Congratulations, and I hope to see you back at DYK soon! Fritzmann (message me) 16:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: The figure "130" is basic addition of the content in the article: 114 personnel enlisted and 16 officers commissioned.
Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 21:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Slavic Legion; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
The article notes: "Coca-Cola's Minute Maid Pulpy is the market leader in the economy juice segment with a 26% share, followed by DeeDo with 16.8% and Kato with 13.8%."
Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 09:01, 18 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/DeeDo; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
@Cunard: Good article. Earwig's is clean, and QPQ is done. Because most of the sources are in Thai which I can't read, I can't verify them. But with the hook, the hook suggests to me that DeeDo takes 26% market share, whereas the source says it has 16.8% market share. The article also says this, Taking 26% of the economy juice sector, Foodstar's DeeDo fruit juice brand ranked second behind the Minute Maid. I'm also not sure if the hook is that interesting. —Panamitsu(talk) 04:52, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Panamitsu (talk·contribs), thank you for catching that mistake. I've fixed this in the article and in the hook. Here are some alternative hooks:
ALT1: ... that DeeDo in 2015 ranked second behind a Coca-Cola brand in Thailand's economy juice sector?
ALT2: ... that DeeDo secured a license to feature the manga series Doraemon on its products?
ALT3: ... that DeeDo upgraded its machinery to assemble 600 fruit juice bottles per minute up from 200?
@Cunard: Yes that looks much better. ALT1 is good, ALT2 is very interesting and will assume in good faith as I can't read Thai. ALT3 looks good, but can't verify as I'm not Thai. Will approve, thanks. —Panamitsu(talk) 09:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! Cunard (talk) 09:40, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: "... to feature the manga series Doraemon on its products" sounds a bit misleading, as to me at least it conjures the image of printing the entire comics on the packaging, when actually it's just the characters. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:58, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ALT2b: "... that DeeDo secured a license to feature characters from the manga series Doraemon on its products?" Cunard (talk) 10:15, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. It's a minor modification that should remain covered by Panamitsu's check, but I'll put another mark here just to make it clear. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:00, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
5x expanded by Hey man im josh (talk). Nominated at 20:20, 26 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/List of Dallas Cowboys seasons; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Other problems: - The flow would work better if "NFL record" were moved (and spelled out + linked).
QPQ: None required.
Overall: DYK tool is throwing up errors, but the article has clearly been expanded more than 5-fold during a 7-day window. Hook could use some work. SounderBruce 03:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the review @SounderBruce! I've added an alt hook. Let me know if you think that flows any better. Hey man im josh (talk) 03:59, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that at the age of 28, Mason Morelli became the first player in Vegas Golden Knights franchise history to record two points in their National Hockey League debut game? Source: Morelli, Thompson Help Golden Knights Power Past Sharks in 4-0 Victory "Mason Morelli is the third player to make his NHL debut with Vegas this season, also Lukas Cormier and Brendan Brisson. He is the third to score in his NHL debut, also Cody Glass and Vadim Shipachyov, and first ever Golden Knight to record a multi-point game in his first NHL game."
Overall: Really nice article for a player who just made their debut. Everything looks good. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Rhinecliff station; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Article recently promoted to GA status and has no copyright issues. The hook is mentioned in the article and is good to go for DYK. Toadboy123(Talk) 06:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 12:56, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Morning Dew (Korean song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Approved: New enough and long enough; fully sourced, though I do have to take most of the sources on good faith. Article seems in reasonable shape for a new article: you might consider adding an infobox and an image (perhaps a fair-use image of the album cover?) to develop it a little further. Both hooks are interesting and check out with the provided sources. Could "South Korean pro-democracy movement" be wikilinked to somewhere appropriate? QPQ is done and Earwig finds no issues. UndercoverClassicistT·C 07:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by Toadboy123 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:54, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jack A. Bade; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
... that the 1993 Pacific hurricane season generated more than double the average number of major hurricanes, which have sustained winds of at least 111 mph (179 km/h)? Source: See here for information on climatology, here for the Northeast and North Central Pacific hurricane database, and here for a guide on how to read said database.
Comment: This is my fourth nomination (the first three were before the modern system), so I don't think I need to do a QPQ, though I will likely choosehave chosen to do one anyway.
Moved to mainspace by Dylan620 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Timeline of the 1993 Pacific hurricane season; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Hook seems great. No copyvio or plagiarism concerns and reliable sources are used. Flux55 (my talk page) 21:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:15, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Aaron Hertzman; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
... that when Karsten Januschke conducted Offenbach's Die Banditen with a small orchestra and 22 soloists, 11 of them tenors, a reviewer noted that he played "a lean, dry, delicate Offenbach"? Source: hr2FNP
ALT1: ... that a reviewer of Karsten Januschke conducting Offenbach's Die Banditen noted that "the marches and dances release great energy"? Source: FNP as above
ALT2: ... that Karsten Januschke conducted In 2024 the first production at the Oper Frankfurt of Offenbach's Die Banditen with a small orchestra and 22 soloists, 11 of them tenors? Source: hr2 as above
Comment: This conductor's birthday - as I noticed when looking at the references - is on 4 March, therefore I believe that a DYK on that day would be a nice gesture. His contemporary achievements are perhaps more unique, but this great piece is also rarely played. The original title is in French, but it was given in a new German version, and the German title is closer to The Bandits, - a title that is interesting, I think.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 17:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Karsten Januschke; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Thank you for this useful article about a conductor. Just one issue, which will be easily dealt with:
The article is all sourced except for the sentence "At other houses ... among others". Please find a citation or remove the sentence.
I have given the article a very minor copyedit; that does not affect DYK. Storye book (talk) 10:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. The article was originally translated from German. I hope to find a ref, but it wasn't as simple as using the next one following ;= - I commented it out until I find one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good to go with ALT 0, 1 or 2. I personally like ALT2 because it emphasizes the 11 tenors, which are as rare as hen's teeth in my country, so wow. Request 4 March, because it is the subject's birthday. Storye book (talk) 12:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. The 11 tenors are also in ALT0. The house was very proud that 9 of the 11 were ensemble members, including the lead, Gerard Schneider, who deserves an article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Comment: This is my first DYK nomination! Hope there aren't any issues with it, but if there are please let me know and I will fix them!
Created by Wasianpower (talk). Self-nominated at 15:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/1973 Nobel Peace Prize; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: @Wasianpower: New enough, very well-written, well-sourced, and I can't find anything to prevent it from becoming a DYK. Thank you for making an article about this absurd Peace Prize victory. I think this hook, which combines some of your hooks, would be better. ALT 4 ... that Henry Kissinger and Lê Đức Thọ receiving the 1973 Nobel Peace Prize caused two members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee to resign and Tom Lehrer to comment that political satire was obsolete? Jon698 (talk) 15:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jon698: Thank you so much for your review and kind words!! That hook sounds great to me. Wasianpower (talk) 20:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Tim Burke (journalist); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Hook looks very interesting and the article is very well-done. I trust that almost anything you touch is mainpage worthy and this one is no different. Hopefully I don't mess anything up as this is my first review. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 05:32, 26 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that the Kilauea lava cricket disappears from a lava field as soon as any plants start to grow there? Source: Howarth, Francis. "Neogeoaeolian habitats on new lava flows on Hawaii Island: an ecosystem supported by windborne debris" http://hbs.bishopmuseum.org/pi/pdf/20(2)-133.pdf
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Created by FlightTerminationSystem (talk). Self-nominated at 22:01, 22 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Caconemobius fori; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
This appears to be nominator's first DYK, so no QPQ is needed. New enough, long enough, well written, and properly sourced. Earwig found no significant copying. Interesting hook, properly sourced. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:35, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/KMIZ; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Created by BilledMammal (talk). Self-nominated at 09:17, 22 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Michi (cat); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Overall: Funny meeting you here, BilledMammal – Everything looks good; no QPQ required as this is only your second nomination. Approving. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:48, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! BilledMammal (talk) 22:22, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Jack Biddle was the first and only person to be elected to the Alabama Legislature as a Democratic, Republican, and independent representative? Source: Steve Flowers (Brewton Standard): "Thus giving Biddle the distinction of being the only person elected to the Alabama Legislature as a Democrat, an Independent, and as a Republican."; Yellowhammer News: "Upon his election as a Republican, Jack Biddle became the first legislator to be elected to the body as a Democrat, an Independent and a Republican."
Created by Kafoxe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:09, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jack Biddle (politician); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Self-nominated at 09:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Silver Hill Mine; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Length, date, close paraphrase check ok. Regarding the hook, arguably the mine supplier raw material for bullets produced at another site. Also, the Confederated States of America should be linked, "the Confederacy" might have different meanings for people outside the US. How about ALT1 - ...that silver from Silver Hill Mine(pictured), the first silver mine in the U.S., was used for Confederate bullets during the American Civil War? --Soman (talk) 11:59, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's more accurate, but I think too long to be punchy - I like to try to keep my hooks as short as possible. What about ALT2 ... that some Confederate bullets were sourced from a silver mine? (pictured)Generalissima (talk) 16:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That works very well, on ALT2 --Soman (talk) 09:18, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... that Don Tait, classical music radio host for WFMT, played all 700 of Leopold Stokowski's recordings on his programs? Source: [36]
ALT1: ... that Don Tait, classical music radio host for WFMT, would play on his show recordings from his personal collection of 30,000 78 RPM recordings? Source: [37]
ALT2: ... that WFMT classical music radio host Don Tait owned such a large collection of recordings that he had to buy a house and have its floor reinforced to accommodate its weight? Source: [38]
Comment: I might include an image with this later. QPQ coming soon. QPQ done.
Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Don Tait; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
New enough, long enough and within policy. All three hooks are good and supported by inline citations. QPQ is done. It should be good to go. (@CurryTime7-24: I'm not sure you can add a picture after the nomination has passed..? Anyway, if you do, let me know and I can check it for the proper license.) Nice article! Yakikaki (talk) 21:22, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think I'll hold off on adding the picture to the nomination. It was taken when he was still in high school, about six years before he started working in radio. It's also maybe a little too pixelated looking for a DYK. But thanks for the offer... and the review, of course! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Self-nominated at 06:51, 27 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Ballast Island (Seattle); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.Reply[reply]
Would be happy to review, but before I do, I think this article has a lot of potential as an April Fools' Day hook... as a reviewer I can't propose alt hooks, but if you have any ideas I'd love to get another hook slotted for April 1.
April Fool's Day hooks are really fun, but I think this would be too depressing for that, honestly. Generalissima (talk) 00:34, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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